Creationism, Darwinism, and "appearance."

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Both Creationism and Darwinism have one major flaw: Their theories appear to be false, and their proponents admit it.

Here is how "Creation Science" proponents explain it:

Simply stated, the idea of "creation with appearance of age" means that when God created, those things which He created might superficially have looked as if they had a history. When Adam was created, he no doubt looked like a mature adult, fully able to walk, talk, care for the garden, etc. When God created fruit trees, they were already bearing fruit. In each case, what He created was functionally complete right from the start—able to fulfill the purpose for which it was created. Stars, created on Day Four, had to be seen to perform their purpose of usefulness in telling time; therefore, their light had to be visible on Earth right from the start. God's evaluation that the completed creation was "very good" (Genesis 1:31) necessitated that it be functionally complete, operating in harmony, with each part fulfilling the purpose for which it was created.


If that is true then the question "Did Adam and Eve have navels" (which are caused by the detachment of the umbilical cord) is yes. They appeared to have come from biological parents. The problem is that by admitting that the world appears to be old, the creationists implicitly concede that the logical conclusion is that the world is old. Then they go on to posit an alternative explanation to this apparent age, that fits with their religious beliefs.

Here is how "Darwin Science" proponents explain it:

“Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” {Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 1}

“Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the illusion of design and planning.” {Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 21.}


The Darwinists on here seem to have a hard time coming to grips with the randomness that their theory requires. They seem to believe that "natural selection," is a force that gives impetus to the process of speciation. Dawkins concedes that the logical conclusion is that life on Earth is designed. Then he proceeds to posit an alternative explanation that fits with his religious beliefs.

Of course, everyone has the right to whatever religious beliefs they hold. But they do not have the right to use tax dollars to propagate their religions in public schools.
 
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Both Creationism and Darwinism have one major flaw: Their theories appear to be false, and their proponents admit it.

Here is how "Creation Science" proponents explain it:

Simply stated, the idea of "creation with appearance of age" means that when God created, those things which He created might superficially have looked as if they had a history. When Adam was created, he no doubt looked like a mature adult, fully able to walk, talk, care for the garden, etc. When God created fruit trees, they were already bearing fruit. In each case, what He created was functionally complete right from the start—able to fulfill the purpose for which it was created. Stars, created on Day Four, had to be seen to perform their purpose of usefulness in telling time; therefore, their light had to be visible on Earth right from the start. God's evaluation that the completed creation was "very good" (Genesis 1:31) necessitated that it be functionally complete, operating in harmony, with each part fulfilling the purpose for which it was created.


If that is true then the question "Did Adam and Eve have navels" (which are caused by the detachment of the umbilical cord) is yes. They appeared to have come from biological parents. The problem is that by admitting that the world appears to be old, the creationists implicitly concede that the logical conclusion is that the world is old. Then they go on to posit an alternative explanation to this apparent age, that fits with their religious beliefs.

Here is how "Darwin Science" proponents explain it:

“Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” {Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 1}

“Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the illusion of design and planning.” {Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 21.}


The Darwinists on here seem to have a hard time coming to grips with the randomness that their theory requires. They seem to believe that "natural selection," is a force that gives impetus to the process of speciation. Dawkins concedes that the logical conclusion is that life on Earth is designed. Then he proceeds to posit an alternative explanation that fits with his religious beliefs.

Of course, everyone has the right to whatever religious beliefs they hold. But they do not have the right to use tax dollars to propagate their religions in public schools.

Oh, dear. Such are the ravings of the Disco'tute groupies.

Disco'tuteism?
 
The flaw is that Creationism appears to have been designed for a purpose.
It was indeed designed for a purpose. Look at the use of all of the Laws of Physics we have uncovered that could never have happened by coincidence.

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter


There would be no reason for Adam to have a belly button. He was never attached to an umbilical cord. Nevertheless, that is one of those things that we'll know when we get there...
 
The flaw is that Creationism appears to have been designed for a purpose.
It was indeed designed for a purpose. Look at the use of all of the Laws of Physics we have uncovered that could never have happened by coincidence.

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter

There would be no reason for Adam to have a belly button. He was never attached to an umbilical cord. Nevertheless, that is one of those things that we'll know when we get there...
What laws have we uncovered that must have been designed by various gods?
 
All of them, and One God...
I’m not so sure “… because I say so” is a convincing argument.

Religions and the gods of those religions which existed before your gods and your religion made similar claims.

What separates your gods and your religion from those earlier gods / religions?

The creation, management and operation of the universe is much too large a task for the three Christian gods. That makes the millions of Hindu gods much more likely.
 
Nothing existed before my God. And nothing, as in no thing, is too large a task for the Lord of Creation. Millions of Hindu gods needed to do the work of 3? That should tell you that the Hindu gods weren't to swift creation-wise.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Wait till we are smart enough to start finding all the dimensions He creates! Then you'll understand how Christ was able to appear out of nowhere, and leave the same way...
 
Adam didn't have any garden to care for in the beginning and when the god created the plants, he hadn't even created the sun yet! Doooohhhhhhhhhh!!
 
No one knows for sure. No one CAN know for sure.

Faith - in either direction - is not fact. It's just faith.
The god created plants and then murdered them all in absolute zero temperatures on earth!
Dooohhhhhh!
 
The Darwinists on here seem to have a hard time coming to grips with the randomness that their theory requires. They seem to believe that "natural selection," is a force that gives impetus to the process of speciation.
don't be silly.
Dawkins concedes that the logical conclusion is that life on Earth is designed. Then he proceeds to posit an alternative explanation that fits with his religious beliefs.
Yeah, he sort of does, but Dawkins doesn't have religious beliefs. Atheism and Agnosticism are lack of belief in a religion. Dawkins is open to hearing some proof of religious sperstitious beliefs.

He believes in the celestial teapot no more or no less than the gods.
 
Nothing existed before my God. And nothing, as in no thing, is too large a task for the Lord of Creation. Millions of Hindu gods needed to do the work of 3? That should tell you that the Hindu gods weren't to swift creation-wise.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Wait till we are smart enough to start finding all the dimensions He creates! Then you'll understand how Christ was able to appear out of nowhere, and leave the same way...
The Hindu gods existed long before your three gods. The Hindu gods taught your gods everything they know. Your gods are barely batting cleanup to the Hindu gods.
 
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And yet the scientists had to steal the concept of Creationism and incorporate it into their religion as the Big Bang theory as they kneel mouthing platitudes of mutual agreement at the mighty alter of scientific consensus.

*****CHUCKLE*****



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The Hindu gods existed long before your three gods. The Hindu gods taught your gods everything they know. Your gods are barely batting cleanup to the Hindu gods.
1 God, 3 roles. My God is the beginning. Nothing existed that He didn't create. And it didn't take a million of them. Just the three.
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing that exists came into being.

God created the man who decided there were millions of gods who have been around forever and do stuff, and called himself a Hindu. Or did Hindu god #10,280,430,964 speak to you directly about how many Hindu gods there are and the role of each one?
 
Yeah. They stole the idea of talking snakes.
I suppose you're used to "talking snakes" at a bar or someplace like it. There were no talking snakes per the Bible as it was Satan talking using the snake. The devil also had it crawl on the Tree of Knowledge and easily get Eve's attention. He could've used another animal, but a snake's nature is cautious and wouldn't normally approach a human. Adam had studied and named the serpent, so he would've told Eve about its cautious nature and it being nothing to be afraid of. Venomous snakes came later.
 

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