Could electrolysis be an energy storage medium for our next energy future

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Could electrolysis be an energy storage medium for our next energy future
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If we can decipher what causes a water molecule in saltwater to break apart, we can then re-unite the H2 and O releasing the heat in the reaction.

How does DC current passing through saltwater cause this molecule to split apart-?

Is it the frequency of the electric charge and if so can this same frequency be replicated by a similar means at less cost-?

In the Hoffamn Electrolysis apparatus shown here, the water molecule splits apart and H2 goes one way and the O goes the other way. Where does this separation take place, in the center or the (+) side or (--) side?

But most importantly, can the explosive reaction create enough heat energy to make it worthwhile?

For example, wind turbines produce energy when the wind is blowing but have no way to store this energy for later use. What if we used this excess electric energy to electrolysis seawater and store the hydrogen for future use-?
 
You get that it takes energy to power the reaction, right?

The 'electro' in electrolysis is there for a reason.
 
Could electrolysis be an energy storage medium for our next energy future
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If we can decipher what causes a water molecule in saltwater to break apart, we can then re-unite the H2 and O releasing the heat in the reaction.

How does DC current passing through saltwater cause this molecule to split apart-?

Is it the frequency of the electric charge and if so can this same frequency be replicated by a similar means at less cost-?

In the Hoffamn Electrolysis apparatus shown here, the water molecule splits apart and H2 goes one way and the O goes the other way. Where does this separation take place, in the center or the (+) side or (--) side?

But most importantly, can the explosive reaction create enough heat energy to make it worthwhile?

For example, wind turbines produce energy when the wind is blowing but have no way to store this energy for later use. What if we used this excess electric energy to electrolysis seawater and store the hydrogen for future use-?

The efficiency of the process is far too low.
 
Wind turbines produce energy when the wind is blowing but have no way to store this energy for later use. What if we used this excess electric energy to electrolysis seawater and store the hydrogen for future use-?

There are efforts being made to “store” the unused wind energy; as in the article below:

The biggest problem with wind and solar energy is that they're intermittent. There might be violent winds one day, and calm skies the next; broiling sunshine on Monday and 100% cloud cover on Tuesday. Some argue this problem is easily overcome by storing any excess energy in batteries until it's needed at a later time.

There have been successful pilot projects around the world showing you can set up solar panels that, after filling the grid, use any excess electricity to heat gravel, heat-carrying chemicals, or water stored in tanks deep underground. With enough insulation, the heat could be stored for months, until it’s needed in homes nearby, and delivered to them via pipes and heat pumps. (This heat energy can also be converted to run air conditioners, where cooling is needed instead of heating.)
Batteries can't solve all our energy-storage problem. Here's the solution

The above “storage” solution is to heat rocks which is a very inefficient means of storage. I still believe Electrolysis is the solution, store the hydrogen instead.
 
Takes energy to create the energy source.......what is the net reward.
***For the Record***

I am aware of the principle of a “perpetual motion machine” and the other, "conservation of energy". The idea proposed is neither.

The idea proposed is to use electrolysis to split the water molecule and the next instant in time recombine the hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom back to a water molecule which releases a lot of “heat”.

All I am trying to propose is a more efficient way that may enhance the electrolysis process. If the product you are trying to accelerate is “heat” and a new way to accelerate this process producing more heat, then your objective has been achieved.

I am not breaking the law of "conservation of energy".

This is not a perpetual motion machine.

In my view of things, “energy” is matter in motion.

If the energy of rubbing two sticks together creates heat and this heat creates fire that warms you through the night, then no laws of nature have been broken.
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A mechanical design, designed to stimulate thought.

The machine attached was created to stimulate your understanding of physical properties of this machine.

There are several mechanical properties associated with this machine.

Your objective is to break up the individual components pointing out the flaws in the design. This is an exercise in fluid and mechanical properties pointing out the flaws using mechanical properties along with fluid dynamics.

To be sure, the machine will not work. Having said that, it is your responsibility to show why it cannot work.

See the attached and then point out the flaws in it.

Good luck
 
Electrolysis can be part of the process, but it is not the storage medium.
That would be the hydrogen.
And in fact hydrogen has been used as the storage medium for lots of companies that make buses for a long time.
 

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