Convicted felon, on parole for gun charge, serving half of 5 year sentence....uses illegal gun to shoot police officers.

[2aguy]

We don't have a gun problem in Chicago...or the United States.....we have a criminal release problem that puts violent, career, repeat gun offenders back on the street with tiny sentences for gun crimes......

Can you anti-gun extremists explain how it is that you want to put more ineffective gun laws on normal gun owners....while at the same time you keep releasing violent gun offenders over and over again so they can go out and commit gun crime?

That is why we don't trust you...that is why we will fight new, stupid gun laws that target normal gun owners...

You don't care about actual gun crime....you simply hate normal gun owners....and will use any chance you get to punish them for the crime of simply owning a gun.....

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Lovelle Jordan was on parole when Chicago police took him into custody. Before Thursday's gunfight with officers, the 25-year-old had spent about a third of his life in the criminal justice system, much of that time behind bars.

It was just April 10 of this year at the Pinckneyville state prison in Southern Illinois that Lovelle Jordan was freed on parole after serving the required 50-percent of a five year sentence for gun possession by a felon.

"I think we need to do a better job of holding gun offenders accountable," Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Brendan Deenihan said at a press conference Friday morning.

-2012: heroin and cocaine possession
--2015: drug possession
--2016: drug possession, aggravated assault and fleeing police
--2017: caught with a gun and convicted as an "armed habitual criminal"

"He was on electronic monitoring until June and then that was removed and now a month later he's armed with a gun going into a stolen car with officers 5 feet away from him which leads to him shooting officers," said Chief Deenihan. "They don't want these offenders released back into their neighborhoods with guns. This is a convicted felon on parole, just gets off EM and he's got a gun on him. Not only does he have a gun on him, he walks right in front of officers to get in a stolen vehicle because he thinks he's going to be able to be that quick to get away.

Felon charged with shooting Chicago police officers has decade-long history of drug and gun crimes

Lovelle Jordan was on parole when Chicago police took him into custody. Before Thursday's gunfight with officers, the 25-year-old had spent about a third of his life in the criminal justice system, much of that time behind bars.

abc7chicago.com

 

[justinacolmena]

... violent, career, repeat gun offenders back on the street with tiny sentences for gun crimes......

That's because mere possession of a gun by an ordinary citizen is a most serious crime in that district, whereas professional hired killers, casino bouncers, debt collectors, skip tracers, bounty hunters, U.S. Marshals, FBI agents, bail bondsmen etc. etc. are allowed to possess and carry firearms for personal protection and performance of their official duties.

 

[Chuz Life]

Great.

Now we need Chicago Lawmakers to step up and make a law against early released convicted felons getting their hands on illegal guns and shooting / killing police officers?

What is this world coming too?

 

[justinacolmena]

2017: caught with a gun and convicted as an "armed habitual criminal"

That's more than enough probation and parole and monitoring to turn every last one of us into "armed habitual criminals" if we were ever alleged to have visited the district of such a wicked city. The prosecutors and judges and public defenders should already be in trouble with the bar for entertaining political charges for stupid shit like this in a court of law while continuing to ignore serious organized crimes that happen to occur to their political favor.

 

[LuckyDuck]

... violent, career, repeat gun offenders back on the street with tiny sentences for gun crimes......

That's because mere possession of a gun by an ordinary citizen is a most serious crime in that district, whereas professional hired killers, casino bouncers, debt collectors, skip tracers, bounty hunters, U.S. Marshals, FBI agents, bail bondsmen etc. etc. are allowed to possess and carry firearms for personal protection and performance of their official duties.

You're off your medication again.

 

[justinacolmena]

You're off your medication again.

I don't do drugs, and especially not drugs that are dealt and administered by overeducated asshole Democrat dealers.

 

[Mac-7]

No liberals have commented on this latest example of liberal lunacy

Gee what a surprise

 

[SavannahMann]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

 

[2aguy]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

He was on parole........

 

[Correll]

chicago should defund the police. no police to stop him, he just quietly carries the gun around, no problem. every lives happily ever after and the city council gets to do something good with that money that was wasted before.


if they don't they are pussies that talk shit, but can't back it up.


oh, and the cops would be safe, whereever they moved to, after they were fired. instead of shot.

 

[Disir]

No liberals have commented on this latest example of liberal lunacy

Gee what a surprise

I'm not ok with serving half of your sentence and being released from prison or immediate release of those good folks with gun charges pretrial.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

"I think we need to do a better job of holding gun offenders accountable," Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Brendan Deenihan said at a press conference Friday morning.

No shit, pal! Keep Lovelle Jordan behind bars so long he'll be too decrepit to be a menace to anyone.

 

[SavannahMann]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

He was on parole........

And would he have gotten his Second Amendment rights back after parole?

 

[Mac-7]

I'm not ok with serving half of your sentence and being released from prison or immediate release of those good folks with gun charges pretrial.

Good for you

responsible gun owners want the felons who cause most of thegn deaths removed from the streets

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

And would he have gotten his Second Amendment rights back after parole?

Let's see what happens when he reemerges from jail this time.
I think he's demonstrated he can trusted to carry a gun.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

He was on parole........

And would he have gotten his Second Amendment rights back after parole?

Irrelevant to the issue at hand. He was on parole and illegally posed and used a gun. He is a criminal and had not served his time. You are trying to cloud the thread with an issue that isn’t there.

 

[theHawk]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

Because liberals have decided to release criminals, then try to keep guns away from them, which doesn’t work.

They shouldn’t be denied the right to buy firearms, they should be denied all freedoms and remain locked up. That is the point of jail, to keep dangerous people out of the population.

 

[2aguy]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

He was on parole........

And would he have gotten his Second Amendment rights back after parole?

Depends on the state......I think we can look at this issue once we take care of the other stupid anti-gun laws we have.

I don't think that violent felons should get their Right to own and carry a gun back...at least not immediately......there should be a crime free period of time...like 10 years with no arrests before that Right is restored...

How would I handle this?

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

Mass shooters


1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 45 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

 

[2aguy]

Another convicted felon with an illegal gun responsible for shooting 9 year old.....

He should have been in jail for 30 years....then this 9 year old wouldn't be dead...

Prosecutors on Tuesday said a convicted felon “went hunting” for a victim when he opened fire and fatally shot 9-year-old Janari Ricks near the boy’s River North home on Friday evening.
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Murphy said Johnson was convicted of vehicular hijacking and a gun charge in 2005. He was convicted of aggravated battery causing great bodily harm in 2002.

Prosecutors: Gunman "went hunting" for victim before fatally shooting 9-year-old Janari Ricks

Darrell Johnson "went hunting" for a victim when he shot Janari Ricks near the boy's River North home, prosecutors said.

cwbchicago.com

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why was the gun illegal? When the Second Amendment was passed people got their right to own guns back when they got out of prison. Why shouldn’t they now?

He was on parole........

And would he have gotten his Second Amendment rights back after parole?

Depends there is a process to request that. Depends on his history since release.