Constitutional or not?

MadDog

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Will Trump and his team file suit to stop the trial, claiming it is unConstitutional?
 
Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:

Trump will be tried AND convicted in the liberal news media, this trial is just to set that up. That and allow Dems a media opp to spew faux rage over GOP senators who vote no.
 
Well a Dem senator who has already called to convict Trump will now preside over the trial instead of the chief justice. :oops:
/—-/ Another democRAT lynching.

"Lynching"?? :wtf:

Soooo I guess what you're saying is, sending a horde of Kool-Aid drinking gullible neckbeards to break into the main government buildings, construct a gallows, plant bombs, kill cops and shit on the floor, is the same thing as "being black" huh.

Sure you wanna plant your flag on that, Greenjeans?
 
Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:
You're so positive about that, but people like Senator Roger Wicker is like 128 years old. He wants to be remembered as a statesman for Mississippi, not a a flunky for a NY con man. Legacy matters to these people.
 
Romney
Collins
McConnell
Toomey
Murkowski
Rubio
Wicker
Daines
Grassley
Moran
Blunt
Burr
Hoeven
Lankford
Thune

Those are the likely votes for conviction. Rubio will seek the GOP establishment embrace rather than the "revolutionary" Trumpy one, especially with noise about Vanky challenging him in 2022. But only if Mitch leads the way.

McConnell is obviously the key. If he votes to convict it allows Grassley, Wicker, and some of the other old guard, near-retirement Republicans who know that Trump is a dangerous fraud.
 
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Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:

Trump will be tried AND convicted in the liberal news media, this trial is just to set that up. That and allow Dems a media opp to spew faux rage over GOP senators who vote no.
There is a possibility it could squeak by. If so, it is worth the time. It is a political trial and does not interfer with actual criminal charges or lawsuits, so it does not limit options to send a message. We are not going to put up with dumb ass presidential demagogues sicking mobs of lawless people on government when they lose an election. It just isn't done, at least til now and we don't wish it to be repeated because it was allowed without consequences. He simply needs to be stripped of any perks or entitlements after leaving office as is deserving none, no staff (except for security) no allowance, no payments, nothing he didn't come to office with and should be banned from further participation except at the ballot box, casting is own ballot, but never holding an office of public trust as he has proven himself not to be trusted. It will be good to put all of the Senate on record to see who supports insurrection spurred by sitting elected officials and who support America, our constitution, our laws, our traditions, our free elections.
 
Republican senators opposing impeachment trial:


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.)
Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.)
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.)
Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.)
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.)
Sen Mike Rounds (R-S.D.)
Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.)
Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.)
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.)
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.)
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
Sen. Jodi Ernst (R-Iowa)
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.)
Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.)


Republican senators who are open to voting to convict or haven’t ruled it out:


Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska)
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.)
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.)
Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.)


Republican senators whose stances are unclear:


Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)
Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)
Sen. Deb Fischer (R-Neb.)
Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.)
 
Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:
back in 1876 the secretary of war was impeached after leaving office (William Belknap).

A core principle of the Constitution is that no one, not even the president, is above the law, and an abuse of power, by definition, is a violation of the Constitution.
The final days in office are no exception.
 
Republican senators opposing impeachment trial:


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.)
Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.)
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.)
Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.)
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.)
Sen Mike Rounds (R-S.D.)
Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.)
Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.)
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.)
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.)
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
Sen. Jodi Ernst (R-Iowa)
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.)
Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.)


Republican senators who are open to voting to convict or haven’t ruled it out:


Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska)
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.)
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.)
Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.)


Republican senators whose stances are unclear:


Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)
Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)
Sen. Deb Fischer (R-Neb.)
Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.)

John Kennedy will vote no, guaranteed.
 
Republican senators opposing impeachment trial:


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.)
Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.)
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.)
Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.)
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.)
Sen Mike Rounds (R-S.D.)
Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.)
Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.)
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.)
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.)
Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.)
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.)
Sen. Jodi Ernst (R-Iowa)
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)
Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.)
Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
Sen. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.)


Republican senators who are open to voting to convict or haven’t ruled it out:


Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska)
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.)
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.)
Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.)
Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.)


Republican senators whose stances are unclear:


Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)
Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)
Sen. Deb Fischer (R-Neb.)
Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.)

John Kennedy will vote no, guaranteed.
Agreed and I believe Mike Lee will be another
I always love to hear Kennedy's analogies :cool:
 
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Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:

A long trial will slow the march of Xiden's Socialist Agenda. Won't stop it but will allow more of the determined to pack up their businesses and lay everybody off before that becomes taxable or is outlawed.
 
Besides being unConstitutional, the Senate won't have enough votes to find him guilty. But the Demtards gotta have their show trial.
Only liberal loons would think failure is somehow a victory. ... :cuckoo:


I hope the Republicans drag this out for months.

Bingo make the Dems pay a price for their treachery and lawless abuse of power.
 

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