Communist paradise that is Cuba 🇨🇺

[TruthNotBS]

That is simply a marxist lie

It failed because socialism ALWAYS fails it is an immoral idea rooted in lies

National Socialism in Germany was a great success. It turned Germany into the most successful, productive nation on Earth. Hitler's mistake was going to war with other socialists.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Machines don't innovate themselves, retard.
They're not going to do all your work for you, either. Grow up you little titty baby.

Advanced automation and AI, innovate, design, produce, and deliver goods and services. The future of mass production is socialism, sorry to burst your capitalist fantasy bubble.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You said something else in that post?
Was it your usual "Capitalism is awful and communism works"?
I just filter out that BS now.

You're unable to refute it, hence you don't have a choice.

 

[The Duke]

Advanced automation and AI, innovate, design, produce, and deliver goods and services. The future of mass production is socialism, sorry to burst your capitalist fantasy bubble.

Yeah. How'd you like to take an airboat ride?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Yeah. How'd you like to take an airboat ride?

I love the Everglades, sure, let's go!

 

[scruffy]

Socialism is the present and the future. Advanced automation and AI, ensure the victory of socialism over capitalism.

Ludicrous.

Advanced automation and AI will take us into space, and socialism will fail miserably when resources are plentiful and people are scarce.

Socialism equates with the lowest common denominator. If that raises your standard of living you have a much bigger problem than simple capitalism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

National Socialism in Germany was a great success. It turned Germany into the most successful, productive nation on Earth. Hitler's mistake was going to war with other socialists.

No it did not

It enslaved the most of the population, murdered millions and tried to conquer europe.

It ewas not a success nor the most succesful or productive nation on earth

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ludicrous.

Advanced automation and AI will take us into space, and socialism will fail miserably when resources are plentiful and people are scarce.

Socialism equates with the lowest common denominator. If that raises your standard of living you have a much bigger problem than simple capitalism.

Gobbledygook. Capitalism relies on wages, hence it can't survive advanced automation and artificial intelligence. You love being a slave to your capitalist masters, but in the future technology will allow human beings to exploit robots rather than each other. You like seeing human beings reduced to a commodity in a labor market, being exploited by capitalist parasites who live off of the labor of others, but in the future robots are going to be exploited, rather than human beings. The means of production are going to become our commonwealth, not the property of a few capitalist parasites.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Socialism is the present and the future. Advanced automation and AI, ensure the victory of socialism over capitalism.

Socialism is forced int he present and destined to always fail in the fiuture

Advanced automation and AI enslure its failure

Gobbledygook. Capitalism relies on wages, hence it can't survive advanced automation and artificial intelligence. You love being a slave to your capitalist masters, but in the future technology will allow human beings to exploit robots rather than each other. You like seeing human beings reduced to a commodity in a labor market, being exploited by capitalist parasites who live off of the labor of others, but in the future robots are going to be exploited, rather than human beings. The means of production are going to become our commonwealth, not the property of a few capitalist parasites.

Wrong

Copitalism relies on property rights not wages. There are also commissions an salaries and tips.m Advanced automation and AI demand capitalism and will only succeed WITH IT

All markets involve exploitation which is only a bad thing when it is FORCED which socialsim requires

The means of production will always be privately owned as they should be

 

[The Duke]

 

[TruthNotBS]

No it did not

It enslaved the most of the population, murdered millions and tried to conquer europe.

It ewas not a success nor the most succesful or productive nation on earth

You just drank the Jewish Kool-Aid propaganda. National Socialist Germany liberated Germany and all of Europe from Jewish-run capitalism and Marxism (atheist-materialist socialism). Satan always creates a counterfeit. Socialism isn't the problem, it's atheistic, materialist socialism, that leads to oppression and poverty. National Socialism leads to prosperity for everyone.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Right! See how easy that was? I'm correct, you're wrong.



It wasn't an official colony of the US, but it was under the heel of American power. There were clauses in its constitution allowing the US to intervene in its territory and take control of its government. Much of its infrastructure was owned by American companies, including its best land.




About 24% of the population was of the Middle Class, leaving most Cubans in poverty. That's how Castro was able to beat Batista. Most Cubans were living in horrible conditions.



The US imposes sanctions upon Cuba that prohibit it from opening bank accounts and lines of credit with Western financial institutions and cargo ships are barred from anchoring at American ports for six months after anchoring in Cuba. There's a long list of regulations, like no industrial machinery or product that contains components protected by American patents is permitted to be imported into Cuba. If foreign companies, including banks and governments, violate the economic sanctions imposed by the US on Cuba, they're heavily fined and could potentially be economically sanctioned as well.

Doing business with Cuba is a serious liability; hence, the Island has been reduced to a "leper colony" economically and politically. It's a country you want to avoid in order not to anger the 800-pound gorilla 90 miles away from its shores.



You haven't proven anything other than you're an ignorant moron.



Whenever public funds bail out your beloved capitalist masters, that's socialism. You can deny it, but when the public has to bail out your capitalist lords, that's socialism saving capitalism.



My family on the Island is pro-Castro and socialist. Most Cubans despite the hardship caused by the sanctions, are pro-socialist and don't want to see Cuba become another Puerto Rico. Cubans will soon be liberated from the American capitalist empire's economic terrorism, when they join BRICS and the Zoomers take power in the US, in a few decades. The Zoomers are the most socialist generation in American history and they're surely going to lift the economic embargo on Cuba.



You're delusional.

I am correct and hiistory proves you wrong

the poverty level in batista era cuba was less than any other carribean nation and they were never a US colony

Castro ONLY won because of corruption of the batista regime, There was very little fighting and he merely bribged his way into power

Youa re ignorant and a liar


The US strictly refuses to trade with CUba which is not required under socialist theory. It gfails because socialsim always fails due to contradictiory and ignoreant economic ideas.


The US cannot and does not fine anyone for trading with CUba.

You just drank the Jewish Kool-Aid propaganda. National Socialist Germany liberated Germany and all of Europe from Jewish-run capitalism and Marxism (atheist-materialist socialism). Satan always creates a counterfeit. Socialism isn't the problem, it's atheistic, materialist socialism, that leads to oppression and poverty. National Socialism leads to prosperity for everyone.

No I am statign docuemented proven historic facts

You are repeatign secodn rate propaganda from worthless conspiracy theory websites.

Socialsim is always gthe problem

You know nothing abotu cuba which is a socialist created hell hole

The public has never bailed out capitalism

 

[CrusaderFrank]

How can any middle class American look at the condition of this once beautiful and prosperous nation and believe that leftist policies are successful????SHAMEFUL.

Looks better than Oakland CA

 

[TruthNotBS]

Socialism is forced int he present and destined to always fail in the fiuture

Advanced automation and AI enslure its failure

Wrong

Copitalism relies on property rights not wages. There are also commissions an salaries and tips.m Advanced automation and AI demand capitalism and will only succeed WITH IT

All markets involve exploitation which is only a bad thing when it is FORCED which socialsim requires

The means of production will always be privately owned as they should be

Wrong

Right.

Copitalism relies on property rights not wages.

Without wages there's no property or profits, so like always, you're wrong again.

There are also commissions an salaries and tips.

Without human labor getting paid by capitalists, there's no capitalism. It doesn't matter if it's a wage, salary, commission, tips, or whatever you want to label it. People sell their labor power (rent themselves) to capitalists, earning money for their labor, that is the foundation of capitalism. Without that there's no paying consumer or market, hence no capitalism or capitalists.

Advanced automation and AI demand capitalism and will only succeed WITH IT

That's the most moronic statement I've read on this forum in a long time, thanks for the laugh. Without wages there's no paying consumer or market, hence no capitalism. Advanced automation and AI, is the end of capitalism, even the big money capitalists realize that:

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All markets involve exploitation which is only a bad thing when it is FORCED which socialsim requires

The exploitation of human beings is always forced. No one wants to be exploited or reduced to a mere commodity, by another person for a profit, the only reason it occurs is because people have no choice. They either rent themselves to a capitalist, or they starve to death. That's not a matter of choice but of necessity. Socialism places the means of production in the hands of the working class, so it's not exploiting human beings for profit. Production in National Socialism is at least partly owned by the working class, and for the primary purpose of developing the nation. Production isn't primarily for profit but to serve the community and the nation at large.

The means of production will always be privately owned as they should be

The business enterprise should be at least partly owned by the workers who work it, and all commerce should serve the community and country. The government should make sure private industry serves the public good and hence the nation. When technology automates mass production, the state and the workers (the people/volk), should own and manage the assets and facilities of production collaboratively, in service to the nation. That's true National Socialism and the most successful and effective economic system.

In the future, it will become clear that America must adopt socialism, and it won't be Marxism, but Nationalist and God-centered (National Socialism recognizes the metaphysical world, unlike Marxism, which reduces everything to mere matter). That is true socialism.

 

[westwall]

How can any middle class American look at the condition of this once beautiful and prosperous nation and believe that leftist policies are successful????SHAMEFUL.

San francisco is looking like that. So is LA and Oakland

 

[Soupnazi630]

Right.




Without wages there's no property or profits, so like always, you're wrong again.




Without human labor getting paid by capitalists, there's no capitalism. It doesn't matter if it's a wage, salary, commission, tips, or whatever you want to label it. People sell their labor power (rent themselves) to capitalists, earning money for their labor, that is the foundation of capitalism. Without that there's no paying consumer or market, hence no capitalism or capitalists.



That's the most moronic statement I've read on this forum in a long time, thanks for the laugh. Without wages there's no paying consumer or market, hence no capitalism. Advanced automation and AI, is the end of capitalism, even the big money capitalists realize that:

​

The exploitation of human beings is always forced. No one wants to be exploited or reduced to a mere commodity, by another person for a profit, the only reason it occurs is because people have no choice. They either rent themselves to a capitalist, or they starve to death. That's not a matter of choice but of necessity. Socialism places the means of production in the hands of the working class, so it's not exploiting human beings for profit. Production in National Socialism is at least partly owned by the working class, and for the primary purpose of developing the nation. Production isn't primarily for profit but to serve the community and the nation at large.


The business enterprise should be at least partly owned by the workers who work it, and all commerce should serve the community and country. The government should make sure private industry serves the public good and hence the nation. When technology automates mass production, the state and the workers (the people/volk), should own and manage the assets and facilities of production collaboratively, in service to the nation. That's true National Socialism and the most successful and effective economic system.

In the future, it will become clear that America must adopt socialism, and it won't be Marxism, but Nationalist and God-centered (National Socialism recognizes the metaphysical world, unlike Marxism, which reduces everything to mere matter). That is true socialism.

Wrong oh ignorant one

Endless numbers make money due to private property and do so without employing anyone.

Under capitalism it is not forced you moron it is consensual and voliuntary by chhoice of both the employee and employer. Yes many want to be employed which means exploited and all have many opptions and choise in life over where to work and how

You have NO choices under socialism. There is no starvation under capitalism but it is massive under socialism

In the future it wull become clear that government cannot run jack shit efficiently and it will never be adocted

Socalism OWNS the means of production and the labor force working it. That is slavery

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

About 24% of the population was of the Middle Class, leaving most Cubans in poverty.

What percentage of the population is doing as well or better, today, after 75 years of Castro's economy,
as that 24%?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're unable to refute it, hence you don't have a choice.

Refute what?

That Cuba is much worse off now than under Bautista?

DURR

 

[TruthNotBS]

Refute what?

That Cuba is much worse off now than under Bautista?

DURR

Refute my response to your "DURR" that socialism is responsible and not the economic terrorism of the US. When your little country is 90 miles away from the capitalist empire, and its capitalist ruling class wants to destroy you, you're up the creek unless you have another superpower that is friendly to socialism protecting you. You have no argument against socialism when you're actively sabotaging a developing country's economy through brutal sanctions and threats of war. DURRRRRR.

 

[TruthNotBS]

What percentage of the population is doing as well or better, today, after 75 years of Castro's economy,
as that 24%?

Again, you're trying hard to blame socialism, while ignoring the embargo. Durrrr.