Clean Coal??

[eflatminor]

There has been a lot of support for the burning of coal of late, and the insistence that it is economically and environmentally sound.

As a matter of fact there is no clean method of burning coal and the GOP is crying "foul"
for tighter restrictions on coal burning plants.

I am wondering something; How much would a littering ticket set you back in your county, and
is throwing a bubble gum wrapper out the window of a moving vehicle as detrimental
to our ecology as the burning of coal?

I hear a lot from the GOP side that coal burning is "no problem," but where are the stats. that
enforce this belief and is mountain top removal and burning this earthen material a sound
investment into our future?

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

You are not aware of the alternatives?
Solar, wind.

You really need to read up on solar and wind power. Not only will the environmentalists prevent there implementation on a large scale, the technology simply does NOT exist to replace fossil and nuclear power. Even if you were willing to cover the majority of the Southwest with solar panels and litter the landscape with bird-killing windmills, and even if you were able to overcome environmental objections, the cost is prohibitive. Sorry, you're heart may be in the right place but science simply cannot replace fossil and nuclear power with solar and wind, not at this point in our evolution. As further proof of this fact, consider that no solar or wind operations are able to compete without government provided tax breaks and other incentives. If the science were there, we'd see nuclear plants being replaced with windmills.

 

[Disenchanted61]

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

You are not aware of the alternatives?
Solar, wind.

Feasible alternatives... pedaling bikes is an 'alternative' too... just as unfeasible

Yet we notice you did not mention a viable alternative named Nuke.... Hmmm... I smell an environazi

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear
fallout; surely you jest. I smell an ignorant!!

 

[DiamondDave]

You are not aware of the alternatives?
Solar, wind.

Feasible alternatives... pedaling bikes is an 'alternative' too... just as unfeasible

Yet we notice you did not mention a viable alternative named Nuke.... Hmmm... I smell an environazi

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear
fallout; surely you jest. I smell an ignorant!!

Ahh... the Chernobyl argument... of course, constructed by a leftist totalitarian socialist government....
How many lethal or massive nuke accidents have we had here?? In France even?? How much fallout do we have from nuke plants on a regular basis??

You, boy, are about as ignorant as they come

 

[Disenchanted61]

There has been a lot of support for the burning of coal of late, and the insistence that it is economically and environmentally sound.

As a matter of fact there is no clean method of burning coal and the GOP is crying "foul"
for tighter restrictions on coal burning plants.

I am wondering something; How much would a littering ticket set you back in your county, and
is throwing a bubble gum wrapper out the window of a moving vehicle as detrimental
to our ecology as the burning of coal?

I hear a lot from the GOP side that coal burning is "no problem," but where are the stats. that
enforce this belief and is mountain top removal and burning this earthen material a sound
investment into our future?

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

 

[DiamondDave]

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

Yep.. this seals the deal... environazi in the midst

So screw a knothole, treehugger

 

[Disenchanted61]

Clean Coal??

If you want to but I'd recommend not using the dishwasher.

O.K. Thank you for the advice.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

You wouldn't be typing on the computer without the extraction of earth's natural resources. Oil is responsible for the research and development of thousands of medicines, drugs, and just about everything that we interact with in day to day activities.

 

[Disenchanted61]

You've convinced me....We all oughtta go back to burning wood to heat our homes.

That'll really clear up the air!

I appreciate your contribution to this post,
but that response went nowhere bro.

No less nowhere than your proposed "alternatives", sport.

Well sport, more of the same old will just give you the same ole' Keep the lobbyist's out of way so we can move on to better newer ways. Solar and wind are proven to be more than efficient.

 

[AVG-JOE]

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

That's where regulation has to come into play. LOCAL regulation. Do you reckon people might be a bit more open to a nuke plant or a refinery in their back yard if they could get next to free electric or really cheap gas by allowing it?

You want safety and the best pollution controls technology available? Insist that the final decision maker at the plant raises HIS family in its shadow.

This ain't rocket science, folks.

 

[Disenchanted61]

You are not aware of the alternatives?
Solar, wind.

Feasible alternatives... pedaling bikes is an 'alternative' too... just as unfeasible

Yet we notice you did not mention a viable alternative named Nuke.... Hmmm... I smell an environazi

I like nuclear. I run my AC all summer and I don't feel guilty at all - I live 10 miles from a nuclear power plant.

I am sure that when you head looks like a pumpkin someday
and your skin falls off, you will care.

 

[eflatminor]

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear fallout; surely you jest.

Do you realize that natural gas kills far more people (about 50 per year) than nuclear power radiation leaks ever have? It's true.

 

[Moonglow]

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear fallout; surely you jest.

Do you realize that natural gas kills far more people (about 50 per year) than nuclear power radiation leaks ever have? It's true.

any links?

 

[tonystewart1]

What is the alternative? Unless you've got magic beans, the technology simply does not exist to replace the use of fossil fuels. I'm sure someday it will but until then, what is your alternative?

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

I am a local and an extractor.

There is no problems living in coal mining communities. We reclaim the mountain when we are done. Most of the time turning into useful land that people can build houses or factories on when before is was a steep face of a mountian.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Feasible alternatives... pedaling bikes is an 'alternative' too... just as unfeasible

Yet we notice you did not mention a viable alternative named Nuke.... Hmmm... I smell an environazi

I like nuclear. I run my AC all summer and I don't feel guilty at all - I live 10 miles from a nuclear power plant.

I am sure that when you head looks like a pumpkin someday
and your skin falls off, you will care.

It's possible, I'll grant you that.

In reality though, my head already looks like a pumpkin and if my skin falls off, it will have more to do with the fun I have in the Florida sun than the nuclear power plant.

Living your life in fear of the possibilities is a waste.

 

[Disenchanted61]

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear fallout; surely you jest.

Do you realize that natural gas kills far more people (about 50 per year) than nuclear power radiation leaks ever have? It's true.

any links?

No, links. I always encourage people to search for sources so they may not believe they are being manipulated. But I myself have been following this coal mining
catastrophe for years now. There are documentaries as well, that include testimony from
the locals, who's communities have been devastated as a result of coal mining and burning.

 

[DiamondDave]

I appreciate your contribution to this post,
but that response went nowhere bro.

No less nowhere than your proposed "alternatives", sport.

Well sport, more of the same old will just give you the same ole' Keep the lobbyist's out of way so we can move on to better newer ways. Solar and wind are proven to be more than efficient.

Not as efficient, cost effective, nor even as environmentally sound as you environazis like to spout off.. sorry, the numbers say differently than your green preaching

 

[Disenchanted61]

After the environmental disasters that lay in the wake of nuclear fallout; surely you jest.

Do you realize that natural gas kills far more people (about 50 per year) than nuclear power radiation leaks ever have? It's true.

I believe the difference would be that nuclear
energy is uncontrollable once it has been let out of the bottle, and far more devastating. Chernobyl and Fukushima are good examples and we here on the west coast will be feeling the
fallout. I don't appreciate that one bit, would you?

 

[Disenchanted61]

Fair taxes and a budget balanced by law.

Remember: If the Horse and Buggy Lobby of 1895 was as powerful as the fossil fuel lobby of 1995, things would smell differently today, although not necessarily better.

Fair and simple taxes that subject ALL industries to the same tax rate allows the market to decide instead of the lobbyists.

The unfortunate fact is that extraction and conversion, is an environmental catastrophe, and if anyone has doubts........ask the locals.

I am a local and an extractor.

There is no problems living in coal mining communities. We reclaim the mountain when we are done. Most of the time turning into useful land that people can build houses or factories on when before is was a steep face of a mountian.

Nice try!!

 

[DiamondDave]

Uhh.. I have ex in-laws that have been a family of coal miners, foremen, and engineers in the business... there are extensive efforts put into the cleanliness, and reclamation during and after the mining

You, sir (and I use that term very lightly in your case), love to simply spout off environazi talking points, without a clue as to what you are talking about

 

[Disenchanted61]

Uhh.. I have ex in-laws that have been a family of coal miners, foremen, and engineers in the business... there are extensive are put into the cleanliness, and reclamation during and after the mining

You, sir (and I use that term very lightly in your case), love to simply spout off environazi talking points, without a clue as to what you are talking about

Is this your opinion,
or a fact?