Can we charge those who house illegals with assisting in a crime

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I hear that all of these people are going to fight mass deportation orders and they say they will help illegals escape. Isn't this aiding in a crime and isn't that a crime in itself?
 
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Make it a federal offense and force them to defend themselves in federal court, which is insanely expensive.

That is true. I would like to make it possible to sue a business or individual who hires or harbors one of these people. I'm sure it would stop right after that.
 
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I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.
 
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I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?
 
I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?
Speed,, as in propelling a mass or drugs?
 
I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?

I think letting them live with you and hiring them are two different things. If you hire them you are likely paying them under the table, or allowing them to assume a fake identity that you know about. You are keeping information from the government that is required by law.

A couple of weeks ago I was participating in a similar thread where one member stated we should hold landlords accountable for renting to illegals. I'm a landlord so I took issue with it. I have no way of knowing if somebody is legal or not. That's besides the fact it's not my business. My business is making sure they have a job to pay the rent and likely a rental record so I can call their previous landlords and get references.
 
Make it a federal offense and force them to defend themselves in federal court, which is insanely expensive.

That is true. I would like to make it possible to sue a business or individual who hires or harbors one of these people. I'm sure it would stop right after that.
. Yep, and no need for a wall then.

Nice Try....just sit back and watch the wall go up
. In the context of these latest post and your comment, is the wall a distraction from the real problems ?
 
I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?
. Border line Nazi talk here in your descriptions of an overbearing government who see's everything as suspect, and administers the law with an iron fist. Thank God we aren't Nazi's, but if not careful we could head down those roads.
 
I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?

I think letting them live with you and hiring them are two different things. If you hire them you are likely paying them under the table, or allowing them to assume a fake identity that you know about. You are keeping information from the government that is required by law.

A couple of weeks ago I was participating in a similar thread where one member stated we should hold landlords accountable for renting to illegals. I'm a landlord so I took issue with it. I have no way of knowing if somebody is legal or not. That's besides the fact it's not my business. My business is making sure they have a job to pay the rent and likely a rental record so I can call their previous landlords and get references.
Might for the security of the country (doing your part), start becoming curious as to whether or not the tenants you rent to are legal residents of the USA. If they are illegal, and you create a sanctuary for them, then if they are also into other illegal activities, then they have an operational base to operate from.
 
I thought it was already a crime housing an illegal immigrant in USA :eusa_think:

Has anyone ever been charged with conspiracy? To my knowledge, the answer is no.

Not that I'm aware of. But in all honesty, if they won't deport a person simply for being illegal, they certainly won't charge anybody with a crime for housing them because they don't consider being here illegally a criminal offense.

It's kind of like a traffic ticket. You broke a law, but that doesn't make you a criminal.

Companies that make devices that help people speed have came under the suspicion of the government and I know that there have been many instances where local governments have tried to punish those companies. I don't know if they were successful but in my home state I know that there was some kind of public debate about it. I don't know what ever came of it but the government usually does see those that assist people in breaking the law as equally culpable. Haven't you heard of cases where a group of kids went into a store, one of them decides to steal, and the entire gang was considered suspect by the law. It makes me wonder why hasn't the government taken the same approach with illegal aliens. I really do believe that their is a mass conspiracy to allow them in so that big businesses can water down wages in this country because what else would explain that?

I think letting them live with you and hiring them are two different things. If you hire them you are likely paying them under the table, or allowing them to assume a fake identity that you know about. You are keeping information from the government that is required by law.

A couple of weeks ago I was participating in a similar thread where one member stated we should hold landlords accountable for renting to illegals. I'm a landlord so I took issue with it. I have no way of knowing if somebody is legal or not. That's besides the fact it's not my business. My business is making sure they have a job to pay the rent and likely a rental record so I can call their previous landlords and get references.
Might for the security of the country (doing your part), start becoming curious as to whether or not the tenants you rent to are legal residents of the USA. If they are illegal, and you create a sanctuary for them, then if they are also into other illegal activities, then they have an operational base to operate from.

The problem is there is no way for me to check that information. Secondly, we landlords are held to the highest standards when it comes to discrimination. When I put a sign out in my yard for an open apartment, sure as shit the state calls me posing as potential tenants looking for rent to try and nail me on some kind of discrimination charge. That's why I no longer put signs out on the street. I use CraigsList now and haven't had a problem with government since.
 
We'll have to see whether the liberal Oregon judge who actually escorted an illegal alien accused of a felony out of her courtroom to prevent apprehension by ICE agents faces charges herself. The illegal alien was apprehended about two weeks later. Maybe him and the judge will get to share a jail cell before he is deported.
 

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