Can There Be Too Much Capitalism?

[Ringo]

I'd tell you to keep your posts to something you know about.....but then you'd be mute.

"...The irony that lies in this situation is the fact that Adolf Hitler studied many of the United States’ policies implemented against American Indian people, as models for how he would deal with Jewish people. He studied the plans of Bosque Redondo, the concentration camp where over 8,000 Navajo men, women and children were sent after the Long Walk in 1864. According to, John Toland, Pulitzer Prize winning author, in his book Adolf Hitler (pg. 202) wrote: “Hitler's concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America's extermination—by starvation and uneven combat—of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

Hitler studied how the Native population rapidly declined due to starvation and disease when placed on reservations. There are so many parallels one can draw from Nazi and American Indian history-- including death marches of Jewish people to concentration camps and the Navajo Long Walk and the many Native American Trails of Tears. The parallel of Nazis destroying Jewish art, music and books and burying people in mass graves and the Wounded Knee Massacre where generations of people and their knowledge, were also buried in a mass grave..."

Hitler Studied U.S. Treatment of Indians

On June 7, the United States House of Representatives passed H. R. 129, a bipartisan piece of legislation, sponsored by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), urging

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Whitman proves that for years building up to the 1935 Nuremberg Laws that Nazi lawyers, jurists, scholars, and officials were studying and writing research materials, articles, and books on United States immigration laws from the very first one in 1790, through the 1870s, 1880s, 1917, 1921, and 1924. Nazis also studied U.S. state and federal laws that allowed racial discrimination and limits on the citizenship rights of minorities. The Nazis were especially interested in American anti-miscegenation laws (bans on inter-racial marriage). Such bans existed in North America as early as 1664 in Maryland, in 1691 in Virginia, and right up to the early 1930s when the Nazis were studying them. In fact, Nazi scholars expressly cited the statutes of thirty American states that banned inter-racial marriages in the early 1930s, as well as many other aspects of U.S. race law:

Nazi Germany and American Indians

Most Americans would probably be shocked to learn that in the early 1930s Nazi scholars, lawyers, and officials were heavily influenced by United States law

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U.S. Treatment of Indians Inspired Hitler’s Hunger Policies | The Circle News

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Hitler Modeled His Plan for Global Conquest After America’s Manifest Destiny

This article supplements Fascism, a Slate Academy. To learn more and to enroll, visit Slate.com/Fascism.

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Hitler's Ostkrieg and the Indian Wars - University of Oklahoma Press

As he prepared to wage his war of annihilation on the Eastern Front, Adolf Hitler repeatedly drew parallels between the Nazi quest for Lebensraum, or living...

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[PoliticalChic]

"...The irony that lies in this situation is the fact that Adolf Hitler studied many of the United States’ policies implemented against American Indian people, as models for how he would deal with Jewish people. He studied the plans of Bosque Redondo, the concentration camp where over 8,000 Navajo men, women and children were sent after the Long Walk in 1864. According to, John Toland, Pulitzer Prize winning author, in his book Adolf Hitler (pg. 202) wrote: “Hitler's concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild west; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America's extermination—by starvation and uneven combat—of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity.”

Hitler studied how the Native population rapidly declined due to starvation and disease when placed on reservations. There are so many parallels one can draw from Nazi and American Indian history-- including death marches of Jewish people to concentration camps and the Navajo Long Walk and the many Native American Trails of Tears. The parallel of Nazis destroying Jewish art, music and books and burying people in mass graves and the Wounded Knee Massacre where generations of people and their knowledge, were also buried in a mass grave..."

Hitler Studied U.S. Treatment of Indians

On June 7, the United States House of Representatives passed H. R. 129, a bipartisan piece of legislation, sponsored by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), urging

indiancountrytoday.com

"...The irony that lies in this situation is the fact that Adolf Hitler studied many of the United States’ policies..."


Of the Democrat Party.

• First, the Nazis copied the Progressives/Democrats Immigration Policies.
• Only the ‘right races’ welcomed.
  
  “Progressives opposed immigration and enacted several immigration restrictions during the 1920s. Progressives also tried to force immigrants to adopt Progressive moral beliefs.” Progressive Movement - Ohio History Central
  
  And… Immigrant Restrictions During the Progressive Era | Synonym
  
  Hitler lauded the Progressives’ immigration policies.
  
  “By refusing immigration on principle to elements in poor health, by simply excluding certain racesfrom naturalization, it professes in slow beginnings a view which is peculiar to the folkish state concept.”
  “Mein Kampf,” chapter three
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• “Hitler also appealed to the racially exclusionary provisions of U.S. immigration laws, specifically the 1924 Immigration Act that had been pushed by American progressives as a model of enlightened eugenic legislation. “There is today one state,” Hitler noted, “in which at least weak beginning toward a better conception are noticeable. Of course it is not our German Republic but the American union. By refusing immigration on principle to elements in poor health, by simply excluding certain races from naturalization, it professes in slow beginnings a view which is peculiar to the Volkish state concept.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats
  
  How about Franklin Roosevelt's attitude toward other races....?
  "This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." FDR's troubling view of Jews
  
  Sieg Heil, Franklin????
  
  
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• Know what else the Nazis learned from the Progressives/Democrats?
  
  “…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.
  
  Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race
  
  “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
  Adolph Hitler
  Untitled Document
  
  
• “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats
  
  
  
  3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???

“…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”

Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

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  Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
  (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)
  
  German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
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• The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.
  
  In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’

“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

• From the LATimes:
• “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
  When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
• although the Nazis used the Democrat doctrines, Jim Crow and segregation laws as their model…..
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• ….wait for it…..
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• ….the Nazis found them TOO HARSH!!!!!
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“And the ugly irony is that when the Nazis rejected American law, it was often because they found it too harsh. For example, Nazi observers shuddered at the "human hardness" of the "one drop" rule, which classified people "of predominantly white appearance" as blacks. To them, American racism was sometimes simply too inhumane.



That may sound implausible — too awful to believe — but in their early years in power, the Nazis were not yet contemplating the "final solution." At first, they had a different fate in mind for the German Jewry: Jews were to be reduced to second-class citizenship and punished criminally if they sought to marry or engage in sexual contact with "Aryans." The ultimate goal was to terrify Germany's Jews into emigrating.”

Op-Ed: When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes

The European far right sees much to admire in the United States, with political leaders such as Marine le Pen of France and Geert Wilders of the Netherlands celebrating events — such as the recent presidential election — that seem to bode well for their brand of ethno-nationalism.

www.latimes.com

If it weren’t so tragic, it’d be funny: the Progressives/Democrat’s programs were too rigid for the Nazis.



Amazing.

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• “…the Nazis balked at defining Jews as anyone possessing “one drop” of Jewish blood in line with the Democratic “one drop rule.” Incredibly the Nazis rejected the one-drop precedent of their American counterparts as too harsh. They defined a Jew as one who has predominant Jewish ancestry—usually characterized by three Jewish grandparents.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

6. The three considered the most Progressive Presidents….all had racist political views.

Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government.

FDR chose as his first Supreme Court nominee, a KKKer.

LBJ led the fight against anti-lynching laws.



7. And….the Nazis praised FDR’s policies as nearly identical to theirs.

The National Socialists hailed FDR’s ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.



8. The Nazis love the Democrat policies of ‘enslave and colonize.’

Many know that Andrew Jackson is considered to be the father of the modern Democrat Party.

Will…..in that case, he should also be remembered as at least a step-father of "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei,” Hitler’s bunch.



You see, another thing the Nazis learned from the Democrats was use to push the ‘Untermenschen’ out of the way to gain ‘lebensraum.’



“….what did Hitler learn from the Democratic Party and from his fellow leftists in America? First, he credited his plan of lebensraum or “living space”—specifically, his plan to forcibly seize the land in Russia, Poland and Eastern Europe, and enslave the native inhabitants—to the Jacksonian Democrats. In a 1928 speech, Hitler noted that Americans in the Jacksonian Era had “gunned down the millions of Redskins to a few hundred thousand, and now keep the modest remnant under observation in a cage.”



Historian Timothy Snyder makes the same point in Bloodlands, “As Hitler imagined the future, Germany would deal with the Slavs much as the North Americans had dealt with the Indians.” Using a formula developed by the Democrats, Hitler sought to drive the Poles, Russians and Slavs from their land; dispatch Germans to take it over; and enslave the conquered peoples that refused to leave.



Notice that Rich and Snyder, who are both progressives, never mentioned the term “Democrat.” They are content to say that Hitler got his ideas from the white man, or from the North Americans. Yet it was the Democratic Party under its founder, Andrew Jackson, and then under Jackson’s Democratic successors, that massacred the Indians and drove them west and presided over the ignominious Trail of Tears. This is the actual precedent that Hitler appealed to in formulating his plans of conquest, dispossession and enslavement.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

9. Hitler “…. did, however, learn how to frame his policies of racial discrimination and Nordic supremacy, his lebensraum strategy of mass displacement and subjugation, and his genocidal mechanisms for exterminating the “unfit,” from his fellow leftists and progressives in the United States.

This is the disgraceful legacy of the Democratic left. Scholars and media pundits who know this history are deeply frightened by it. They realize that if young people discover it, if it comes to become widely known, then the whole progressive Democratic project will be discredited. No longer will progressives be able to pose as the part of the good, the true and the beautiful; on the contrary, they will be exposed as a partly complicit in racism, mass murder and genocide.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats




Bet you thought I'd run out of ways to humiliate you?

Guess again.

 

[Ringo]

Bet you thought I'd run out of ways to humiliate you?

A person from the United States, no matter what party he belongs to, was born in the most hypocritical country in the world. The country was born in hypocrisy. Hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind: slaveholders who talk about freedom and independence! Probably only cannibals who preach vegetarianism can be more disgusting. You should, my dear, hide from in shame under a rock and sit quietly, praying that everyone will forget about you and your history. But no! The pharisee climbs on the podium and preaches about Marxism and Bolshevism... Pathetic...

 

[PoliticalChic]

A person from the United States, no matter what party he belongs to, was born in the most hypocritical country in the world. The country was born in hypocrisy. Hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind: slaveholders who talk about freedom and independence! Probably only cannibals who preach vegetarianism can be more disgusting. You should, my dear, hide from in shame under a rock and sit quietly, praying that everyone will forget about you and your history. But no! The pharisee climbs on the podium and preaches about Marxism and Bolshevism... Pathetic...

Don't stop now.

I certainly don't mind pulverizing you as long as you keep providing the posts to be pulverized.

A quick review of what I've done to you so far:

1. Shown that capitalism has benefitted more human being than any other system, while your chosen one has slaughtered millions upon million to no avail.

2. Both Nazism and Communism are based on the works of Karl Marx

3. The Democrat Party served as a model of the German socialists, the Nazis.

4. Leftism is a religion itself, and this stems from the fact that Karl Marx worshipped Satan.

5. Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
.... the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

The Democrats check every one of those boxes.



They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.



Now do your little dance, monkey-boy:



Isn't this fun?

 

[Ringo]

Why do the dealers hate Stalin? For the fact that Joseph Stalin, as commander-in-chief, smashed the fighting boar of world capitalism - German fascism, into which the dealers put their souls.
The Stalinist artel, a holiday of liberated labor, without parasites and exploitation, completely beating the"market"
I am convinced that without Hitler, capitalism, which was sitting in the deepest shit in the 1930s, would have lost the economic competition to socialism, which in the same 1930s moved forward with double-digit annual growth rates.

For this purpose, the Fed and the City modeled a demoniacal Fuhrer. To stop the Communists.

 

[Ringo]

So many insoluble contradictions have accumulated in the world, that the bourgeoisie would have long ago arranged, as it has already done twice without batting an eye, a new world war. This is the only way out of the crisis for Capital - to thin out people and assets.

But then Stalin and Beria interfered. In the most difficult conditions, the country, half-destroyed by the war, created atomic weapons in the shortest possible time, which many years later still cools the heads of world Capital

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why do the dealers hate Stalin? For the fact that Joseph Stalin, as commander-in-chief, smashed the fighting boar of world capitalism - German fascism, into which the dealers put their souls.
The Stalinist artel, a holiday of liberated labor, without parasites and exploitation, completely beating the"market"
I am convinced that without Hitler, capitalism, which was sitting in the deepest shit in the 1930s, would have lost the economic competition to socialism, which in the same 1930s moved forward with double-digit annual growth rates.

For this purpose, the Fed and the City modeled a demoniacal Fuhrer. To stop the Communists.

"Why do the dealers hate Stalin?"


Every normal person hates Koba.

Doesn't include you, does it, Bongo????

 

[Ringo]

The capitalists are stealing like for the last time . Global aggregate debts have almost reached $300 trillion. Pay special attention to the increase since the beginning of the pandemic.
Martian habitable bases should have existed for a long time ago with this money.
But not with the dealers in charge.
To hide from the layman the ever-growing "flux" of bad debts that have already reached almost $300 trillion - this is the alchemy of "capitalism on steroids" - financial one. And the bourgeois does not care that his descendants will curse him for preparing future wars and disasters right now

 

[PoliticalChic]

The capitalists are stealing like for the last time . Global aggregate debts have almost reached $300 trillion. Pay special attention to the increase since the beginning of the pandemic.
Martian habitable bases should have existed for a long time ago with this money.
But not with the dealers in charge.
To hide from the layman the ever-growing "flux" of bad debts that have already reached almost $300 trillion - this is the alchemy of "capitalism on steroids" - financial one. And the bourgeois does not care that his descendants will curse him for preparing future wars and disasters right now

You took quite a beating today, huh, Bongo?

 

[Ringo]

You took quite a beating today, huh, Bongo?

If it were not for Goebbels ' propaganda, you would have to invent anti-soviet myths yourself.
It's good when you can stand on someone's reliable shoulders.

 

[PoliticalChic]

yoIf it were not for Goebbels ' propaganda, you would have to invent anti-soviet myths yourself.
It's good when you can stand on someone's reliable shoulders.

So you'd rather the gulags remained in existence...


And, as the Soviet's taught the Nazis to build concentration camps....you liked those too?


How many times a day do total strangers walk up to you and call you an idiot????


The Soviets slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children since their coming-out party in 1917. They make al qaeda look like the Red Cross.

 

[Ringo]

The Soviets slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children since their coming-out party in 1917. They make al qaeda look like the Red Cross.

Even your teacher, Dr. Goebbels, deduced this figure at about 50 million. Well done, the doctor would be proud of you. Why don't you do your usual thing and continue to criticize the liberals. You have no idea what an idiot you look like when you talking about marxism and USSR...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Even your teacher, Dr. Goebbels, deduced this figure at about 50 million. Well done, the doctor would be proud of you. Why don't you do your usual thing and continue to criticize the liberals. You have no idea what an idiot you look like when you talking about marxism and USSR...

Goebbels was a Nazi, which means he learned his doctrines from Karl Marx.


Marx, the Satan-worshipper.

Pick up a book.


Don't be a moron your whole life.....take a day off.

 

[Ringo]

NATO’s Nazi Beginnings: How the West implemented Hitler's goals, by Robert S. Rodvik

Who gave NATO the right to rule the world? This author elucidates how the Western elite, many of whom were Hitler supporters, rescued a vast number of Nazi hierarchy and placed them in positions to continue the many decades long fight against Russia. The One Percent of the time and the One...

www.voltairenet.org

 

[PoliticalChic]

NATO’s Nazi Beginnings: How the West implemented Hitler's goals, by Robert S. Rodvik

Who gave NATO the right to rule the world? This author elucidates how the Western elite, many of whom were Hitler supporters, rescued a vast number of Nazi hierarchy and placed them in positions to continue the many decades long fight against Russia. The One Percent of the time and the One...

www.voltairenet.org

The mediocrity of your post would bring tears of boredom to the eyes of a perpetual shut-in...reading it is a testament to both my tolerance.... and my desire for amusement.

 

[cnm]

No. Laissez faire capitalism is not too much capitalism, it's too little gov't oversight and regulation.

Ah. You mean too little government intervention in the labour market? The government has let the labour market be too free? Reads a lot like other words for too much capitalism, don't you know.

 

[cnm]

But tell me, if every road and path was privately owned, would that be too much capitalism?

 

[task0778]

Ah. You mean too little government intervention in the labour market? The government has let the labour market be too free? Reads a lot like other words for too much capitalism, don't you know.

"The government has let the labour market be too free?" Not in my opinion. Would you rather have total gov't control over the cost of labor, including wages and benefits? Some people would, but in so doing they shackle the free market forces that attract new investments and innovations, or expansions to existing businesses. Surely you realize that in each case a capitalist will compare the risks with the rewards, and if the risks are too high relative to the rewards (profit) then the capitalist puts his money to work somewhere else. And as you no doubt know, a higher cost of labor increasing the risks while reducing the rewards.

Capitalism is all about choices like that. Do I buy this or that, what price can I get for selling this or that. Should I take this job for that wage or not? Should I hire a person at this wage? That's not too much capitalism, that is exactly what capitalism is all about. Choices. Decisions. People think that capitalism is all about taking advantage of someone by paying them what the market price is for their labor, but whose fault is it when the value of your labor isn't enough to support a family? The capitalist's? I think not. Forcing a company/business to pay someone more than their market value for their labor is not enough capitalism.

 

[task0778]

But tell me, if every road and path was privately owned, would that be too much capitalism?

In truth, I didn't get your point or what you were trying to say, so I'll kind of improvise. What I think you are doing is conflating capitalism with excessive greed, when in fact greed is human desire that has been around for as long as humans have, while capitalism is relatively recent. Greed has been present in every place and time, and the only reason why it is so prevalent under capitalism is because capitalism is so much better than any other economic model or system when it comes to producing wealth and prosperity. In no other economic system can so many get rich and so many more avoid poverty. And that is not too much capitalism.

Capitalism is all about choices. Your choices, and you should get to enjoy the fruits of your labor and good decisions but also face the consequences of bad choices and less effort expended. If you're driving down the road at 100MPH on a road where the speed limit is 50, your problem is not too much car, it's you.

 

[Ringo]

Goebbels was a Nazi, which means he learned his doctrines from Karl Marx..

Only an idiot or an unscrupulous propagandist can claim that Nazism originates in Marxism. And usually these human qualities are combined