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Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.

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The OP is complete nonsense. Conservative atheists are not at war with conservative Christians. All American conservatives believe in the United States Constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion, and freedom not to have a religion.
Agreed, atheists and theists within conservatism circles share that powerful fraternal bond of conservatism, and as things are now, religion doesn't divide them.

I think religion could divide them, though (though not seriously), were they able to free themselves of their common enemy, the tyrannical left.
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Agreed, atheists and theists within conservatism circles share that powerful fraternal bond of conservatism, and as things are now, religion doesn't divide them.

I think religion could divide them, though (though not seriously), were they able to free themselves of their common enemy, the tyrannical left.
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no, what they share was their response to the religious itinerant in the 1st century -
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and, but for recorded history find themselves blameless for their uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent from that time to the present.
 

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JAG Writes:
Atheism/Secularism wants a different kind of America than Christendom
wants. The Atheistic/Secularistic ideology is not harmonious with the
Christian world-view and vise versa.

First there ARE many Conservative atheists in the world that stand
against Liberalism -- nonetheless this OP is about a relatively small
number of atheists -- the Conservative atheists -- so this OP is not
going to be of much interest to most atheists who are political Liberals
and not political Conservatives -- yet some atheists that have
Conservative political leanings may find this OP interesting. Plus
its "food for thought" and may lead to other more interesting OP's.

Conservative atheists , , ,
From The Harvard Political Review:
"While the idea of a conservative atheist might seem unusual at first,
according to a 2012 Pew poll ---- Thirteen percent of atheists and
agnostics self-identify as conservative
—a number that indicates a
growing group on the right that does not believe in a god."
https://harvardpolitics.com/united-s...tive-atheists/
________________

Here is a website called The Atheist Conservative
The Atheist Conservative:

__________

"According to a , , , Pew Forum survey, 19 percent of conservatives
are unaffiliated with any particular religion, and 14 percent of
atheists identify as conservative."___Off the web

___________

If you google "atheist conservative" you will pull up a lot of stuff.

___________


Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Conservative Christendom? No.

{1} Atheism/Secularism wants a totally different America than does Conservative Christendom and the two sides are never going to reconcile or harmonize ---but will become more and more hostile and war-like as conditions worsen in America. Secularism's world-view is in direct opposition with Christendom's world-view. They want different America's.

{2} Atheism/Secularism has turned into a political movement that is at ideological war with Christianity and with Theism.

"New Atheism is a term coined by the journalist Gary Wolf in 2006 to describe the positions promoted by some atheists of the twenty-first century. This modern-day atheism is advanced by a group of thinkers and writers who advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics. According to Richard Ostling, Bertrand Russell, in his 1927 essay Why I Am Not a Christian, made recommendations similar to those proposed by the New Atheists, suggesting that there are no substantive differences between traditional atheism and New Atheism"___Wiki
New Atheism - Wikipedia


{3} It is going to become more and more difficult for Conservative atheists to "make common cause" with Conservative Christians or with Theists because of my {1} and {2} and {4}.

{4} Christians and Theists are daily coming more and more to see activist-thread-atheists as their sworn enemy, thanks to threads in Forums on the Internet At Large and thanks to video sharing websites like You Tube -- where it is becoming more and more obvious each day that atheism/Secularism and Christendom are locked down in ideological war on the Internet. Add all forms of Social Media, eg Facebook, Twitter, etc its constant WAR all the time. Gonna get worse too. Its the principle of Superman vs. Lex Luthor and the principle of Batman vs. The Joker. Enemies. Like Patton and Rommel. Not friends, but enemies. It is what it is --- and Enemies is what it is.

________

To bad too.
Social and Political Tribalism is not good for the survival of the American Republic.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to political power in 2020, my prediction is your life will change for the worst at high levels of personal agony.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to power in 2020, they can:
■ increase federal spending at nation-killing levels
■ increase Federal power at nation killing levels
■ push through statehood legislation for Puerto Rico and Washington DC and thereby , , ,
■ gain control of the US Senate
■ kill the US Senate filibuster leaving the GOP minority powerless to resist Liberalism and Socialism throughout America
■ make every issue a racist issue and paint all opposition to THEM as being racist remember that
■ ridicule was one of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and Constant Ridicule does work -- eg. the constant accusation of Racism
{ Looks to me like most Conservative leaders in DC are NOW scared to death of being called a Racist, Homophobe, Misogynist, Xenophobe, or Nativist}
■ open the flood gates to illegal immigration thus increasing their voters pool and thereby effectively destroying the Republican Party forever
■ provide legislation to enable amnesty for the 11 million to 22 million illegals already here to become Democrat Party voters.
■ allow America's some 2,000,000 prison inmates to vote {they will vote for the Democratic Party}
■ push through legislation that destroys the 2nd Amendment and effectively disarms America
■ allow chain immigration to further increase their Democratic pool of voters and thereby turn many Blue states into Red Democratic states
■ push through reparations for slavery
■ push through Medicare for all
■ push through nation killing laws based on climate scare
■ unleash Joe Biden upon America -- regular Joe'ism is bad enough , , , but there is more , ,
■ unleash Joe Biden on America allowing Joe to effectively select the next President Of the US, because Joe at his age and mental and physical condition is very unlikely to finish out his 4 years term. So? So get set for an ULTRA-Liberal female of color to be America's next President who is highly likely to be FAR-WORSE for Conservativism than Joe Biden ever thought of being.
■ destroy for all practical purposes the Republican Party and all serious political opposition to their Liberalism/Socialism/Marxism
_________

Closing Miscellaneous Points:

"Politics is war by another name."__Selected

The 21st Century is shaping up to be a "war of all against all."

Theism is projected to hit 5.7 billion by the year 2050. That's gonna be a lot of
Theists in the world -- and unhappy with atheism/Secularism.

"The Lord Jesus said, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34-36 , , ,The sword is the principle of war.

The Lord Jesus said , , , "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter
against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes
will be those of his own household.”. Matthew 10:34-36

"Only the dead have seen an end to war."___Plato

JAG
There is a correlation between atheism and socialism. It's not a perfect correlation but the distribution is clearly linked.
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There is a correlation between atheism and socialism. It's not a perfect correlation but the distribution is clearly linked.
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the void in your mind is the link between theism and socialism - the void of a crucifier.
Yes, some religions practiced socialism. But they always attacked the dominant religion too. Just as atheism does today.
 

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JAG Writes:
Atheism/Secularism wants a different kind of America than Christendom
wants. The Atheistic/Secularistic ideology is not harmonious with the
Christian world-view and vise versa.

First there ARE many Conservative atheists in the world that stand
against Liberalism -- nonetheless this OP is about a relatively small
number of atheists -- the Conservative atheists -- so this OP is not
going to be of much interest to most atheists who are political Liberals
and not political Conservatives -- yet some atheists that have
Conservative political leanings may find this OP interesting. Plus
its "food for thought" and may lead to other more interesting OP's.

Conservative atheists , , ,
From The Harvard Political Review:
"While the idea of a conservative atheist might seem unusual at first,
according to a 2012 Pew poll ---- Thirteen percent of atheists and
agnostics self-identify as conservative
—a number that indicates a
growing group on the right that does not believe in a god."
https://harvardpolitics.com/united-s...tive-atheists/
________________

Here is a website called The Atheist Conservative
The Atheist Conservative:

__________

"According to a , , , Pew Forum survey, 19 percent of conservatives
are unaffiliated with any particular religion, and 14 percent of
atheists identify as conservative."___Off the web

___________

If you google "atheist conservative" you will pull up a lot of stuff.

___________


Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Conservative Christendom? No.

{1} Atheism/Secularism wants a totally different America than does Conservative Christendom and the two sides are never going to reconcile or harmonize ---but will become more and more hostile and war-like as conditions worsen in America. Secularism's world-view is in direct opposition with Christendom's world-view. They want different America's.

{2} Atheism/Secularism has turned into a political movement that is at ideological war with Christianity and with Theism.

"New Atheism is a term coined by the journalist Gary Wolf in 2006 to describe the positions promoted by some atheists of the twenty-first century. This modern-day atheism is advanced by a group of thinkers and writers who advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics. According to Richard Ostling, Bertrand Russell, in his 1927 essay Why I Am Not a Christian, made recommendations similar to those proposed by the New Atheists, suggesting that there are no substantive differences between traditional atheism and New Atheism"___Wiki
New Atheism - Wikipedia


{3} It is going to become more and more difficult for Conservative atheists to "make common cause" with Conservative Christians or with Theists because of my {1} and {2} and {4}.

{4} Christians and Theists are daily coming more and more to see activist-thread-atheists as their sworn enemy, thanks to threads in Forums on the Internet At Large and thanks to video sharing websites like You Tube -- where it is becoming more and more obvious each day that atheism/Secularism and Christendom are locked down in ideological war on the Internet. Add all forms of Social Media, eg Facebook, Twitter, etc its constant WAR all the time. Gonna get worse too. Its the principle of Superman vs. Lex Luthor and the principle of Batman vs. The Joker. Enemies. Like Patton and Rommel. Not friends, but enemies. It is what it is --- and Enemies is what it is.

________

To bad too.
Social and Political Tribalism is not good for the survival of the American Republic.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to political power in 2020, my prediction is your life will change for the worst at high levels of personal agony.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to power in 2020, they can:
■ increase federal spending at nation-killing levels
■ increase Federal power at nation killing levels
■ push through statehood legislation for Puerto Rico and Washington DC and thereby , , ,
■ gain control of the US Senate
■ kill the US Senate filibuster leaving the GOP minority powerless to resist Liberalism and Socialism throughout America
■ make every issue a racist issue and paint all opposition to THEM as being racist remember that
■ ridicule was one of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and Constant Ridicule does work -- eg. the constant accusation of Racism
{ Looks to me like most Conservative leaders in DC are NOW scared to death of being called a Racist, Homophobe, Misogynist, Xenophobe, or Nativist}
■ open the flood gates to illegal immigration thus increasing their voters pool and thereby effectively destroying the Republican Party forever
■ provide legislation to enable amnesty for the 11 million to 22 million illegals already here to become Democrat Party voters.
■ allow America's some 2,000,000 prison inmates to vote {they will vote for the Democratic Party}
■ push through legislation that destroys the 2nd Amendment and effectively disarms America
■ allow chain immigration to further increase their Democratic pool of voters and thereby turn many Blue states into Red Democratic states
■ push through reparations for slavery
■ push through Medicare for all
■ push through nation killing laws based on climate scare
■ unleash Joe Biden upon America -- regular Joe'ism is bad enough , , , but there is more , ,
■ unleash Joe Biden on America allowing Joe to effectively select the next President Of the US, because Joe at his age and mental and physical condition is very unlikely to finish out his 4 years term. So? So get set for an ULTRA-Liberal female of color to be America's next President who is highly likely to be FAR-WORSE for Conservativism than Joe Biden ever thought of being.
■ destroy for all practical purposes the Republican Party and all serious political opposition to their Liberalism/Socialism/Marxism
_________

Closing Miscellaneous Points:

"Politics is war by another name."__Selected

The 21st Century is shaping up to be a "war of all against all."

Theism is projected to hit 5.7 billion by the year 2050. That's gonna be a lot of
Theists in the world -- and unhappy with atheism/Secularism.

"The Lord Jesus said, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34-36 , , ,The sword is the principle of war.

The Lord Jesus said , , , "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter
against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes
will be those of his own household.”. Matthew 10:34-36

"Only the dead have seen an end to war."___Plato

JAG
There is a correlation between atheism and socialism. It's not a perfect correlation but the distribution is clearly linked.
.
There is a correlation between atheism and socialism. It's not a perfect correlation but the distribution is clearly linked.
.
the void in your mind is the link between theism and socialism - the void of a crucifier.
Yes, some religions practiced socialism. But they always attacked the dominant religion too. Just as atheism does today.
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Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.
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Yes, some religions practiced socialism. But they always attacked the dominant religion too. Just as atheism does today.
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and you have an example - no.

in recent history and throughout the ages the desert religions with or without atheist alliance has without interruption been at the forefront of all wars and extensive cyclical periods of oppression against the innocent - western civilization.
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nothing could be more distorted than the reply's in this thread ...

conservative atheist / christianity, the desert religions have been since time immemorial in league together to circumvet all other peoples lives and material belongings through unjust wars in most cases justified by their own forged documents.


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hitler, atheist / christianity ... mussolini, atheist / the pope -

the o p is out of their mind.
 
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Interesting comments in this thread.
The thread title was , , ,
Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.

The thread title was NOT , ,
Can Conservative Atheism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.


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"{1} Atheism/Secularism wants a totally different America than does Conservative Christendom
and the two sides are never going to reconcile or harmonize ---but will become more and
more hostile and war-like as conditions worsen in America. Secularism's world-view is
in direct opposition with Christendom's world-view. They want different America's."___JAG

Is this not true?


JAG

/just asking



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Interesting comments in this thread.
The thread title was , , ,
Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.

The thread title was NOT , ,
Can Conservative Atheism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.


___________

"{1} Atheism/Secularism wants a totally different America than does Conservative Christendom
and the two sides are never going to reconcile or harmonize ---but will become more and
more hostile and war-like as conditions worsen in America. Secularism's world-view is
in direct opposition with Christendom's world-view. They want different America's."___JAG

Is this not true?


JAG

/just asking



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Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? No.

The thread title was NOT , ,
Can Conservative Atheism Make Common Political Cause With Christians? (No). Yes
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the latter is historically verifiable - for as long as the desert religions have been in existence.

the division of church and state is secular and was championed by the churches at one time for that reason -

the two questions are synonymy's in political cause were the christians secular which the o p does not conclude by their negative response. distilling, live and let live as their answer. a militant christian.
 
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"War of all against all"
Democrats against Republicans.
Republican against Democrats.
Liberals against Conservatives
Conservatives against Liberals.
Protestants against Catholics.
Catholics against Protestants.
Libertarians against Democrats and Republicans.
Democrats and Republicans against Libertarians.
China against the United States.
The United States against China.
Russia against the United States.
The United States against Russia.
Add in all the Racial stuff
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Tribe against Tribe.
Tribalism is strong 21st Century.
Ideological war rages on the Internet At Large.
Social Media is an Ideological battleground.
Anybody who reads threads on the Internet At large and does not know this
to be true --- is brain dead. Or locked-sown on denial.
Anybody who spends time on video sharing websites knows there is an Ideological War raging.
___________________

Its a "war of all against all."
War Rule Number 1 is demonize your enemy.
War Rule Number 2 is use Ridicule to demoralize your enemy
War Rule Number 3 is to pretend there is no "war of all against all"
War Rule Number 4 is to accuse your enemy of being a "war monger."
War Rule Number 5 is to use ugly name-calling in threads and then claim moral justification for doing that.
War Rule Number 6 is to post whatever is necessary to defeat your thread-enemy
War Rule Number 7 is to pretend there is no such thing as a thread-enemy
War Rule Number 8 is to claim that your enemy is insane or irrational
War Rule Number 9 is to claim that YOU are the true peace-lover
War Rule Number 10 is to claim that YOUR position is the only sane rational position
____________

"Politics is war by another name."__Selected

The 21st Century is shaping up to be a "war of all against all."

___________


JAG Wrote In The OP:
{4} Christians and Theists are daily coming more and more to see
activist-thread-atheists as their sworn enemy, thanks to threads in
Forums on the Internet At Large and thanks to video sharing
websites like You Tube -- where it is becoming more and more
obvious each day that atheism/Secularism and Christendom are
locked down in ideological war on the Internet. Add all forms of
Social Media, eg Facebook, Twitter, etc its constant WAR all the
time. Gonna get worse too. Its the principle of
Superman vs. Lex Luthor and the principle of
Batman vs. The Joker. Enemies. Like Patton and
Rommel. Not friends, but enemies.
It is what it is --- and Enemies is what it is. "___JAG

Fact.

____________

Theism is projected to hit 5.7 billion by the year 2050. That's gonna be a lot of
Theists in the world -- and unhappy with atheism/Secularism.

"The Lord Jesus said, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34-36 , , ,The sword is the principle of war.

The Lord Jesus said , , , "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter
against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes
will be those of his own household.”. Matthew 10:34-36

"Only the dead have seen an end to war."___Plato


JAG


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JAG Writes:
Atheism/Secularism wants a different kind of America than Christendom
wants. The Atheistic/Secularistic ideology is not harmonious with the
Christian world-view and vise versa.

First there ARE many Conservative atheists in the world that stand
against Liberalism -- nonetheless this OP is about a relatively small
number of atheists -- the Conservative atheists -- so this OP is not
going to be of much interest to most atheists who are political Liberals
and not political Conservatives -- yet some atheists that have
Conservative political leanings may find this OP interesting. Plus
its "food for thought" and may lead to other more interesting OP's.

Conservative atheists , , ,
From The Harvard Political Review:
"While the idea of a conservative atheist might seem unusual at first,
according to a 2012 Pew poll ---- Thirteen percent of atheists and
agnostics self-identify as conservative
—a number that indicates a
growing group on the right that does not believe in a god."
https://harvardpolitics.com/united-s...tive-atheists/
________________

Here is a website called The Atheist Conservative
The Atheist Conservative:

__________

"According to a , , , Pew Forum survey, 19 percent of conservatives
are unaffiliated with any particular religion, and 14 percent of
atheists identify as conservative."___Off the web

___________

If you google "atheist conservative" you will pull up a lot of stuff.

___________


Can Conservative Atheism/Secularism Make Common Political Cause With Conservative Christendom? No.

{1} Atheism/Secularism wants a totally different America than does Conservative Christendom and the two sides are never going to reconcile or harmonize ---but will become more and more hostile and war-like as conditions worsen in America. Secularism's world-view is in direct opposition with Christendom's world-view. They want different America's.

{2} Atheism/Secularism has turned into a political movement that is at ideological war with Christianity and with Theism.

"New Atheism is a term coined by the journalist Gary Wolf in 2006 to describe the positions promoted by some atheists of the twenty-first century. This modern-day atheism is advanced by a group of thinkers and writers who advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics. According to Richard Ostling, Bertrand Russell, in his 1927 essay Why I Am Not a Christian, made recommendations similar to those proposed by the New Atheists, suggesting that there are no substantive differences between traditional atheism and New Atheism"___Wiki
New Atheism - Wikipedia


{3} It is going to become more and more difficult for Conservative atheists to "make common cause" with Conservative Christians or with Theists because of my {1} and {2} and {4}.

{4} Christians and Theists are daily coming more and more to see activist-thread-atheists as their sworn enemy, thanks to threads in Forums on the Internet At Large and thanks to video sharing websites like You Tube -- where it is becoming more and more obvious each day that atheism/Secularism and Christendom are locked down in ideological war on the Internet. Add all forms of Social Media, eg Facebook, Twitter, etc its constant WAR all the time. Gonna get worse too. Its the principle of Superman vs. Lex Luthor and the principle of Batman vs. The Joker. Enemies. Like Patton and Rommel. Not friends, but enemies. It is what it is --- and Enemies is what it is.

________

To bad too.
Social and Political Tribalism is not good for the survival of the American Republic.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to political power in 2020, my prediction is your life will change for the worst at high levels of personal agony.

If the Liberal Democratic Party actually comes to power in 2020, they can:
■ increase federal spending at nation-killing levels
■ increase Federal power at nation killing levels
■ push through statehood legislation for Puerto Rico and Washington DC and thereby , , ,
■ gain control of the US Senate
■ kill the US Senate filibuster leaving the GOP minority powerless to resist Liberalism and Socialism throughout America
■ make every issue a racist issue and paint all opposition to THEM as being racist remember that
■ ridicule was one of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals and Constant Ridicule does work -- eg. the constant accusation of Racism
{ Looks to me like most Conservative leaders in DC are NOW scared to death of being called a Racist, Homophobe, Misogynist, Xenophobe, or Nativist}
■ open the flood gates to illegal immigration thus increasing their voters pool and thereby effectively destroying the Republican Party forever
■ provide legislation to enable amnesty for the 11 million to 22 million illegals already here to become Democrat Party voters.
■ allow America's some 2,000,000 prison inmates to vote {they will vote for the Democratic Party}
■ push through legislation that destroys the 2nd Amendment and effectively disarms America
■ allow chain immigration to further increase their Democratic pool of voters and thereby turn many Blue states into Red Democratic states
■ push through reparations for slavery
■ push through Medicare for all
■ push through nation killing laws based on climate scare
■ unleash Joe Biden upon America -- regular Joe'ism is bad enough , , , but there is more , ,
■ unleash Joe Biden on America allowing Joe to effectively select the next President Of the US, because Joe at his age and mental and physical condition is very unlikely to finish out his 4 years term. So? So get set for an ULTRA-Liberal female of color to be America's next President who is highly likely to be FAR-WORSE for Conservativism than Joe Biden ever thought of being.
■ destroy for all practical purposes the Republican Party and all serious political opposition to their Liberalism/Socialism/Marxism
_________

Closing Miscellaneous Points:

"Politics is war by another name."__Selected

The 21st Century is shaping up to be a "war of all against all."

Theism is projected to hit 5.7 billion by the year 2050. That's gonna be a lot of
Theists in the world -- and unhappy with atheism/Secularism.

"The Lord Jesus said, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
Matthew 10:34-36 , , ,The sword is the principle of war.

The Lord Jesus said , , , "For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter
against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes
will be those of his own household.”. Matthew 10:34-36

"Only the dead have seen an end to war."___Plato

JAG
Dear JAG
1. If you expect all people to unite perfectly the same with Christians then no, of course that will not happen the way you envision.

2. However I can give you a perfect Counterexample of a Conservative Atheist already aligning and supporting Christians in reforming govt and setting up solutions both Constitutional and Christian.

We do not have to agree on everything to make this happen.

The example is the nonprofit health care cooperative started by www.tbt.org

The founder is open to working with churches and people of any party to set up health care at cost for every district through cooperatives.

The attorney who wrote up all the opinions, licensing, registration, contracts, all the legal and govt documentation is an Atheist Libertarian who leans Conservative and wants all govt out of health care and health care out of govt.

He is actually twenty steps ahead of other Christians too divided politically, left from right, to invest in solutions like Cooperatives that do not require anyone to change their beliefs.

The problem isn't Atheists, but Christians divided from each other.

I also knew a Liberal Atheist who could get more done to help Conservative Christians overcome politics. My friend Ray Hill helped Joel Osteen acquire the Compaq Center blocked by the City of Houston run by Liberal Democrats who wanted the tax revenues.

It took a Liberal Atheist who defended free speech and anyone trying to help others.

As for the medical cooperative plans, the Greens are more open to DIY. So the Conservative values of decentralization and local ownership are shared by Progressives as well, even Sanders pushing for worker owned cooperatives.

We do not have to agree on whom to blame for problems, and we can still agree on workable solutions that Conservatives and Christians want which do not require us to agree or change our beliefs!

Www.medcoops.info
Www.pdmpwebsite.org
 
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Christianity has truth, that is essential, and it should be expressed in a free market of ideas and thinking. Anybody in this country should value that, where all things, which can include truth, can be expressed. Even atheists should see that. When anything can't be, that will make the place that is that way not a free market of ideas and thinking. It would be a loss.
 

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Look at what is. Christ would not have made money. People are afraid of being themselves, hiding. There are Jails. Jesus spoke truth to Pontious Pilate. He did not hear it. Jesus has a kingdom that is not of this world. That is why he did not fight. They that are like Jesus will not be of this earth. Money makes God's image to say no to god's image. Satan smiles. God is sad. People say the word free, in free market, with nothing being free. The word is spoken to make people think they are in the Garden of Eden, not being there.
 
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