Call to Christians: Consensus in Christ before we can reform Govt as a consequence

[norwegen]

Jesus never warned the Romans of anything. The only foreboding future he spoke of was that of the holy people.

 

[alang1216]

Holy shit. Now I've heard it all.

If any of that was news to you, you have not heard it all.

 

[surada]

If any of that was news to you, you have not heard it all.

That is so off the wall.. Its not in scripture and I never, ever heard of any church teaching such screwy ideas.

 

[alang1216]

Holy shit. Now I've heard it all.

Ehrman proposes that Jesus can be best understood as an apocalyptic prophet--a man convinced that the world would end dramatically within the lifetime of his apostles and that a new kingdom would be created on earth. According to Ehrman, Jesus' belief in a coming apocalypse and his expectation of an utter reversal in the world's social organization

 

[norwegen]

Ehrman has a good grasp of ecclisiastical history.

Of Israel's eschaton? Not so much. That's why he's an atheist now.

 

[alang1216]

Ehrman has a good grasp of ecclisiastical history.

Of Israel's eschaton? Not so much. That's why he's an atheist now.

I think both he and I would agree completely.

 

[norwegen]

I think both he and I would agree completely.

You're both wrong.

 

[BreezeWood]

the itinerants message was self determination, the religion of antiquity which would have been contrary to all the power centers at the time. were there truth to an initial grand plan surly they would have been born in rome.

 

[Colin norris]

You equate believing with knowing?

If you believe there is a god, no doubt you have proof of its existence.
I believe there is no God and the fact it has never been seen, is proof it doesn't exist. That is knowing. Why believe in ghosts?