Breakthrough Cases Are NOT the Problem

[Mac-7]

not even convinced that this is a function of intelligence. These are people who have, literally, fallen into a cult. There are otherwise reasonably intelligent people who have done that in history.

Meaning what?

wanting America to be strong puts people in a cult?

you voted for old joe because you hated trump

thats just simple emotionalism

 

[Papageorgio]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

www.vox.com

But the evidence is clear: The problem is the unvaccinated population. If more people got the vaccines, the current surge wouldn’t be as big; it certainly wouldn’t lead to the levels of hospitalization and death now seen across the US. This was true months ago, and remains true today.

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They’ve made up more than 94 percent of reported Covid-19 cases in states with available data, a report last week from the Kaiser Family Foundation found. They’ve also made up similar, or higher, shares of hospitalizations and deaths.

Then there’s what really happened in the Provincetown outbreak. The headlines noted three-fourths of people infected by the virus were vaccinated. But among the more than 900 cases tracked as a result of the outbreak, just seven led to hospitalization — and there were zero deaths. If this was 2020, when there were no vaccines, closer to 90 people would have been hospitalized and about nine would have died, based on hospitalization and death rates over the last year.

Before 2021 all death

Even Lindsey Graham is smarter than many of these idiots, as is the Governor of Alabama!

Graham is smarter than those damn Democrats from Texas that didn’t isolate themselves and Harris who didn’t isolate herself when she came in contact with those Covid spreading Democrats. It’s more of the do as I say, not what I do, mentality. Good for Graham isolating himself.

 

[Lesh]

Scared Of The Vaccine, A Family Gets Ravaged By COVID

Tiffany Devereaux lost her 35-year-old fiancé, Britt McCall, her 65-year-old mother and her 85-year-old grandmother to COVID-19 in just five days.

crooksandliars.com

 

[DrLove]

Before 2021 all death

Graham is smarter than those damn Democrats from Texas that didn’t isolate themselves and Harris who didn’t isolate herself when she came in contact with those Covid spreading Democrats. It’s more of the do as I say, not what I do, mentality. Good for Graham isolating himself.

That ^ made absolutely no sense, but you be you!

 

[DrLove]

Poor baby. Abbott will win that case and give you and Xiden the finger while doing so. Transporting illegals and dropping them in his state without informing him is illegal. Commit an illegal act, your vehicle gets impounded. Or he can order cops to just shoot on sight and solve the problem for good.

How much would you like to bet .. week off the board?

 

[Papageorgio]

That ^ made absolutely no sense, but you be you!

Graham is quarantining himself, since he has Covid. The 5 reps from Texas after discovering they had Covid did not quarantine. Graham seems to have a better understanding of Covid protocols than those 5 Dems from Texas.

 

[flacaltenn]

what's hilarious is the fact that you believe someone with no sickness is capable of transmitting a virus. First, you have zero evidence to point at to say, yep asymptomatic people are contagious.

Just told you =-- NO ONE right now has a focus on HOW possible transmission is for the ASYMPTOMATIC... It's NOT impossible. You use the word "sick" which has no real clinical dimensions to it.. HOW SICK? You got a load of CVid in your nose, throat, maybe some in your airways... But the VACCINE is handling that load before the "the storm" hits..

IT IS POSSIBLE -- if that Asymptomatic person sneezes or coughs to transmit it.. Barring a hard case of allergies or smoker's cough tho -- the CHANCES of asymptomatic transmission are gonna be found to be MUCH LOWER -- I guess 25% or less -- of transmission by unvaxxed person..

You dont know. I dont know -- the CDC or NIAID doesn't know how less probable it is for asymptomatic transmission..

And that PARTY/massive event study in Connecticut or whereever that infected MANY?? Worthless as a benchmark.. They cite 75% vaccination rate.. Dont even know if that's a GUESS due to the general vaccination rate for that city.. BUT -- the 25% UNVACCINATED ON THEIR OWN -- who attended those festivities were certainly capable of infecting 100 or more people by themselves..

NOT a definitive study by ANY stretch..

 

[flacaltenn]

According to the FDA the MNRA vaccines were 95% effective at preventing infection. That means with 160 million vaccinated, it leaves room for 8 million breakthrough infections. But when you add the ones that have natural immunity from previous infections, the US should be beyond heard immunity. With xiden importing more virus every day, with no end in sight. The commies will use this BS to control the population indefinitely and try to blame Trump for it, of course.

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You're generally right.. What folks dont get and poor excuses for news analysts dont tell you is that we're not really SEEING Science in Action".. What ya got to realize is that most of messaging from govt is being done in the name Public Health outreach.. The GOALS of public health are NOT the goals of science.. Public health wants messaging at a 5th grade level.. They want COMPLIANCE and in fact -- aren't really concerned about the science or EVEN THE LEGALITY of their edicts.. So a LOT gets lost.. The messaging is garbled and reversible. And there is a LOT of "leaders" who SLIP UP and forget the "public health" aspect of their job is PRIMARY and delve a bit into the science and screws up the 5th grade level messaging..

This is MOST EVIDENT in the fact that the OFFICIAL public health messaging has AVOIDED (as you said) ADDING IN natural immunity to the vaccinated in any meaningful way.. But the science IS CLEAR.. MANY MORE PEOPLE than have been reported as "cases" have natural immunity now.. And the public health messaging doesn't include the "deep dive" into why this is so hard to determine.

Bear with me -- this is important from the science angle. The "anti-body" tests that they use for finding folks who have or have had CVID were DESIGNED to look at "short term available SERUM antibodies.. Some studies have used them to look for that natural immunity number. But the FACT IS that after maybe 6 months, the anti-body protection is not AVAILABLE IN THE BLOOD.. It has parked itself in the BONE MARROW where they wait to get called out..

The FEW STUDIES where they've found ENOUGH JERKS to allow a bone marrow draw - have shown that NATURAL IMMUNITY IS PRESENT at least 18 months past infection. AND that the natural is AS STRONG or STRONGER than vaccine immunity..

So -- just because the public health messaging DOESN'T ALLOW mention of natural immunity by no means says that the science isn't there and SUSPECTING a strong natural immunity response to CVID infection..

 

[westwall]

naw, sorry, there is zero evidence to support it. Show me the study where an Asymptomatic person was put into a room with 100 people and how many got infected. Just show me that study.

We don't need a study. We have the historical FACT that it occurred.

 

[fncceo]

We really need to stop mollycoddling people who don’t care about anyone but themselves.

How about just not caring about them at all? Reciprocity.

 

[OKTexas]

You're generally right.. What folks dont get and poor excuses for news analysts dont tell you is that we're not really SEEING Science in Action".. What ya got to realize is that most of messaging from govt is being done in the name Public Health outreach.. The GOALS of public health are NOT the goals of science.. Public health wants messaging at a 5th grade level.. They want COMPLIANCE and in fact -- aren't really concerned about the science or EVEN THE LEGALITY of their edicts.. So a LOT gets lost.. The messaging is garbled and reversible. And there is a LOT of "leaders" who SLIP UP and forget the "public health" aspect of their job is PRIMARY and delve a bit into the science and screws up the 5th grade level messaging..

This is MOST EVIDENT in the fact that the OFFICIAL public health messaging has AVOIDED (as you said) ADDING IN natural immunity to the vaccinated in any meaningful way.. But the science IS CLEAR.. MANY MORE PEOPLE than have been reported as "cases" have natural immunity now.. And the public health messaging doesn't include the "deep dive" into why this is so hard to determine.

Bear with me -- this is important from the science angle. The "anti-body" tests that they use for finding folks who have or have had CVID were DESIGNED to look at "short term available SERUM antibodies.. Some studies have used them to look for that natural immunity number. But the FACT IS that after maybe 6 months, the anti-body protection is not AVAILABLE IN THE BLOOD.. It has parked itself in the BONE MARROW where they wait to get called out..

The FEW STUDIES where they've found ENOUGH JERKS to allow a bone marrow draw - have shown that NATURAL IMMUNITY IS PRESENT at least 18 months past infection. AND that the natural is AS STRONG or STRONGER than vaccine immunity..

So -- just because the public health messaging DOESN'T ALLOW mention of natural immunity by no means says that the science isn't there and SUSPECTING a strong natural immunity response to CVID infection..

Yep, that's what's known as T-Cell immunity and it can persist for decades. Vaccines can also impart T-Cell immunity, of course not everyone responds the same. Anyone that says the government is following the science is either ignorant or a liar.

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[OKTexas]

We don't need a study. We have the historical FACT that it occurred.

AKA anecdotal evidence. Where's the verified contact tracing to back that up?

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[WTH_Progs?]

Here's how shit works...........

On Trump's watch there are half the cases as those on Xiden's watch, yet on Xiden's watch 50% are supposed to have been protected. Make sense?

Could it be a contributing factor there are more cases because half the people were "vaccinated" and was a fuck-up? Nah, couldn't be that.

 

[westwall]

AKA anecdotal evidence. Where's the verified contact tracing to back that uphalfway!

Over 100 years of anecdotal evidence and there was no such thing back then. However, we DO know that viruses are transmitted in many ways. The most dangerous is an airborne virus, which needs no host.

Thus asymptomatic people with the virus on them spread them quite nicely. That's why virology labs use such extraordinary methods to prevent spread.

Because they HAVE to.

 

[Mac1958]

Clueless as always

You're free to point out any time I've said men can give birth.

You won't, of course, because you love fantasies.

 

[CowboyTed]

You are afraid of it. There is no other reason for anyone not to get it. You are all pathetic cowards.

This is the bit that make you look like an asshole:

Kids in Louisiana Make Up Almost 20 Percent of New COVID Cases

Half of the children admitted to one hospital were "perfectly healthy" before contracting the virus, a doctor said.

www.newsweek.com

Yes people are afraid... Now it is affecting kids... Ever been to a kids funeral...

 

[MinTrut]

Breakthrough cases aren’t the cause of the US Covid-19 surge

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

www.vox.com

But the evidence is clear: The problem is the unvaccinated population. If more people got the vaccines, the current surge wouldn’t be as big; it certainly wouldn’t lead to the levels of hospitalization and death now seen across the US. This was true months ago, and remains true today.

Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They’ve made up more than 94 percent of reported Covid-19 cases in states with available data, a report last week from the Kaiser Family Foundation found. They’ve also made up similar, or higher, shares of hospitalizations and deaths.

Then there’s what really happened in the Provincetown outbreak. The headlines noted three-fourths of people infected by the virus were vaccinated. But among the more than 900 cases tracked as a result of the outbreak, just seven led to hospitalization — and there were zero deaths. If this was 2020, when there were no vaccines, closer to 90 people would have been hospitalized and about nine would have died, based on hospitalization and death rates over the last year.

There is no problem.

Delta variant: Basically a mild flu.

DemocraTaliban & their CovidScam martial law: The grave danger.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I’m all for treating dumbfucks as dumbfucks and marginalizing them at every opportunity.

And I am all for publicly hanging anyone who is for "marginalizing" anyone who makes a personal medical decision.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Sure buddy. Afraid of a little jab. Gotcha. So was my toddler. Maybe they’ll give you a sticker.

Oh, we're sooooooo triggered!!


Your childish attempt to ridicule us into making medical decisions out of shame is just fucking pathetic and insulting.

Admit that you're just angry that we are not doing what you want and now you want to force it.

 

[colfax_m]

Admit that you're just angry that we are not doing what you want and now you want to force it.

It’s satire. The right in all their manliness had been ridiculing the left as they took conservative measures to stop the spread of infection.

Things like “go hide beneath your bed” and whatnot.