BREAKIN: "russian" Muscovite horde killed 29 Turkish troops in air strike in Idlib

[Litwin]

So glad we have a President who's not getting involved in that shithow. Obama and Hillary got us involved in Syria but Trump is staying out of it.

I simply don't care anymore................REALLY..........If the ding bats in the Middle East want to kill each other ............GO AHEAD...........GO TO ALLAH..............

Nobody really cares anymore......enough.......KILL EACH OTHER OFF ALREADY.

NATO be damned, Turkey is not getting us into war

I simply don't care anymore................REALLY..........If the ding bats in the Middle East want to kill each other ............GO AHEAD...........GO TO ALLAH..............

Nobody really cares anymore......enough.......KILL EACH OTHER OFF ALREADY.

We should send them all the best weapons we have, pop some popcorn, sit back, and watch them wipe each other out.

They love killing and dying so much...........I agree...........let them kill themselves off........

 

[Litwin]

 

[eagle1462010]

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Wow.....................Idlib is in Syria..............well what was once Syria................How about Turkey carry it's fucking ass HOME.............and pull it's proxies with it...........their purpose being to remove Assad............

I DON'T CARE........If they want to stay in Syria.........then let them pay for it...........in blood or whatever............

If that is for them......then kick them out of NATO..........and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[eagle1462010]

ISIS leader al-Baghdadi killed in U.S. raid

A U.S. official told The Associated Press late Saturday that al-Baghdadi was targeted in Syria’s Idlib province. The official said confirmation that the ISIS chief was killed in an explosion is pending. No other details were available, but Fox News reported Jennifer Griffin wrote on Twitter that she had been told by a U.S. official that 50-70 U.S. troops and six helicopters were involved with the raid, and that al-Baghdadi was killed when he detonated a suicide vest. Griffin added that the raid launched from Erbil, Iraq - the defacto capital of Kurdish Iraq.



Imagine that................when we killed the leader of ISIS it was in Idlib..............with all those Turkish forces around..............Guess they just never saw him............LOL

Turkey used ISIS for trying to take down Assad.........just as Obama's policies did so as well........Trump SAID NO................our policy changed...........Too dang bad........

 

[Litwin]

Google Maps

Wow.....................Idlib is in Syria..............well what was once Syria................How about Turkey carry it's fucking ass HOME.............and pull it's proxies with it...........their purpose being to remove Assad............

I DON'T CARE........If they want to stay in Syria.........then let them pay for it...........in blood or whatever............

If that is for them......then kick them out of NATO..........and let the chips fall where they may.

14:16 GMT - Turkey in 'crisis containment mode' with Russia
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's phone call with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, on the situation in Idlib earlier today indicates Ankara is seeking to avoid conflict with Moscow, according to an analyst.

"Any Turkish response against Russia will factor in the US and NATO's responses. Unless Turkey gets a really strong commitment from the US and NATO - such as imposing a no-fly zone arrangement over Idlib - then its response towards Russia will be physically raising the cost of the war for Russia in terms of targeting Syrian regime forces, and making a distinction between the regime and Russia," says Galip Dalay, fellow at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs.

"Turkey will continue to target the Syrian regime but will be very careful in terms of targeting Russia. Turkey will most likely increase its geographic scope when it comes to targeting Syrian regime forces beyond Idlib, which may expand to Aleppo and east of the Euphrates. But it will do so in a way that will not completely destroy its relations with Russia," he tells Al Jazeera.

13:30 GMT - Bulgaria to send 1,000 troops to Turkey border
Bulgaria is ready to deploy 1,000 soldiers to its border with Turkey to prevent the entry of migrants into its territory, according to the country's defence minister Krasimir Karakachanov.

This comes after Turkey's foreign ministry warned migrants and asylum seekers in the country are moving towards Europe because of the situation in Idlib.

Karakachanov, in a Facebook post, says the Bulgarian army "will take all necessary measures to protect" its borders.

Greece is also boosting patrols on its border with Turkey.

 

[Litwin]

BREAKIN:
"russian" Muscovite horde killed 29 Turkish troops in air strike in Idlib

At least 29 Turkish soldiers have been killed in an air strike by Syrian "regime forces" in north-western Syria, a senior Turkish official has said.

More were hurt in Idlib province, said Rahmi Dogan, the governor of Turkey's Hatay province. Other reports put the death toll higher."



so its the war for sure. do you agree?

Air strike in Syria's Idlib kills 29 Turkish troops

12:00 GMT - NATO calls on Russia, Syria to 'stop indiscriminate attacks'
Jens Stoltenberg, NATO's secretary-general, is calling on Russia and Syria to stop the offensive in Idlib and to "fully engage in UN-led efforts for a peaceful political solution" to the conflict. .

"We call on Russia and the Syria regime to stop the attacks, to stop the indiscriminate air attacks ... we also call on Russia and Syria to fully respect the international law," Stoltenberg tells reporters in Brussels, the capital of Belgium.

"This dangerous situation must be de-escalated."

#NATO has just met in solidarity with our Ally Turkey, following the death of Turkish soldiers near Idlib. We condemn the indiscriminate air strikes by the Syrian regime & Russia. This dangerous situation must be de-escalated & humanitarian access allowed: Statement by the Secretary General after Article 4 consultations pic.twitter.com/XCatlnyB9k

— Jens Stoltenberg (@jensstoltenberg) February 28, 2020

 

[Stratford57]

For everybody who may care: skye , JGalt , eagle1462010 , Rocko , Silver Cat

The International Law says: Any military intervention into any country in the world from outside is legally possible in two cases: either at request from the lawful government or with the decision of UN Security Council.
Russia is in Syria by the request of the government, Turkey and other countries are there illegally.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia (today):

The plan, which Russia and Turkey agreed upon, was “to separate the normal opposition forces from the terrorists, to demilitarize the inner belt in the zone to prevent attacks coming from it against the Syrian forces and the Russian [Air Base Khmeimim], to ensure free road travel through this zone.”

The goals have not been achieved in more than a year, and with attacks from Idlib continuing “the Syria Army certainly has [the] full right to retaliate and suppress the terrorists,” Lavrov said, adding that the requirement to defeat jihadist forces in Syria has been backed by the UN Security Council.

“[Russia] cannot prohibit the Syrian Army from executing the demands written in the UNSC resolutions, which call for an uncompromising fight against terrorism in all its forms.”

Ankara agreed to use the influence it has among some of the armed groups in Idlib to quell violence and eventually establish a lasting ceasefire, with Russia trying to do the same with Damascus and its forces. The arrangement however didn’t work out, and the Syrian Army started capturing villages and towns in southern Idlib to fend off jihadists.

Syria has every right to fight terrorists in Idlib and Russia can’t interfere – Moscow

 

[Litwin]

Turkey vows to escalate military action after 33 soldiers die in ...
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för 55 minuter sedan - Russia, which backs the Syrian regime, and Turkey traded blame over the ... Russia, which said its air force was not operating in the area of the ...

 

[Litwin]

I simply don't care anymore................REALLY..........If the ding bats in the Middle East want to kill each other ............GO AHEAD...........GO TO ALLAH..............

Nobody really cares anymore......enough.......KILL EACH OTHER OFF ALREADY.

So glad we have a President who's not getting involved in that shithow. Obama and Hillary got us involved in Syria but Trump is staying out of it.

"So glad we have a President who's not getting involved in that shithow." who said so ?

The article says we only have 500 troops there. Probably the ones guarding the oil fields.

No ‘End Date’ for U.S. Troops in Syria

NATO be damned, Turkey is not getting us into war

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

BREAKIN:
"russian" Muscovite horde killed 29 Turkish troops in air strike in Idlib

At least 29 Turkish soldiers have been killed in an air strike by Syrian "regime forces" in north-western Syria, a senior Turkish official has said.

More were hurt in Idlib province, said Rahmi Dogan, the governor of Turkey's Hatay province. Other reports put the death toll higher."



so its the war for sure. do you agree?

I'm not even sure who you have fighting one another

 

[eagle1462010]

I simply don't care anymore................REALLY..........If the ding bats in the Middle East want to kill each other ............GO AHEAD...........GO TO ALLAH..............

Nobody really cares anymore......enough.......KILL EACH OTHER OFF ALREADY.

So glad we have a President who's not getting involved in that shithow. Obama and Hillary got us involved in Syria but Trump is staying out of it.

"So glad we have a President who's not getting involved in that shithow." who said so ?

The article says we only have 500 troops there. Probably the ones guarding the oil fields.

No ‘End Date’ for U.S. Troops in Syria

NATO be damned, Turkey is not getting us into war

I said I know longer care................let the middle east do whatever......I want our people out of there and yall just kill each other off.........

I DON'T CARE.

 

[Litwin]

Muscovite expert said that a golts that Muscovites killed turks Alexandre Golts — Wikipédia

 

[Silver Cat]

There is an interesting article in Al-Monitor about this case.
Deciphering Turkey’s darkest night in Syria

Turkey woke up Feb. 28 to its gloomiest day in the Syrian conflict, mourning the deaths of at least 33 soldiers in a ferocious attack the previous day that brought tensions with Moscow and Damascus to an unprecedented level.

What exactly transpired on Feb. 27? At around 5 p.m., a Turkish mechanized infantry battalion, comprised of about 400 soldiers, became the target of an airstrike on a road between al- Bara and Balyun, some 5 kilometers (3 miles) north of Kafr Nabl in southern Idlib. According to local sources contacted by Al-Monitor, two Russian Sukhoi Su-34 and two Syrian Su-22 fighter jets had launched intensive bombings of Turkey-backed Syrian National Army (SNA) targets in southern Idlib at around 11 a.m. that day. The same jets hit the Turkish convoy in coordinated action, the sources said. A first, a relatively lighter strike by the Su-22s forced the convoy to stop, after which the pounding intensified, forcing the soldiers to take shelter in several roadside buildings. What followed next was likely the dropping of KAB-1500L bombs — a variation of advanced laser-guided bunker buster bombs capable of penetrating to depths of up to 20 meters (65 feet) — by the Russian jets. Two of the buildings collapsed in the attack, leaving the Turkish soldiers under the rubble.

Moscow said Feb. 28 that Russian planes had not carried out strikes in the area, and that Russia did its best to ensure the Syrian army ceased fire to allow the evacuation of the troops. It said, however, that the Turkish soldiers should not have been in the area, where counterterror operations were underway, and Ankara had failed to relay information about their presence in advance.

Despite the denial of Russian involvement and a subsequent phone call between the Turkish and Russian presidents, the escalation appears to be a deliberate, well-calculated Russian move and Moscow’s attitude could hardly be taken for granted as a sign that it is willing to step back to de-escalate the crisis.

Ankara’s official death toll stood at 33 on the morning of Feb. 28, with 60 other troops wounded, among them 16 with serious injuries. It was still unclear whether any soldiers could be still trapped under the rubble. According to unconfirmed information obtained by Al-Monitor, the actual death toll is somewhere between 50 and 55.

What caused Russia to react so violently and provocatively while a Russian delegation was holding talks in Ankara in a bid to ease the tensions in Idlib?

The battlefield had grown highly explosive since Feb. 20, when two Turkish tank crewmen were killed in an air raid on Turkish M60 Sabre tanks in southern Idlib. The situation escalated further on Feb. 25-26, when — amid ongoing operations by Syrian government forces, backed by Russian airpower, in southern Idlib — SNA forces, supported by the Turkish military, launched a counterattack in the Nayrab-Saraqeb area, taking control of Nayrab and marching on to Saraqeb, which lies at the junction of the strategic M4 and M5 highways, while managing to block the M5 at several points only days after the road had been reopened.

Things came to a head on the morning of Feb. 27, when according to Russian media, Russian aircraft flying over southern Idlib became the target of intensive fire from man-portable air-defense systems, known as MANPADS, from Turkish military outposts in the area. Simultaneously, MANPADS and drone attacks reportedly threatened the Khmeimim base, Russia’s key military facility in Syria. Russian sources, contacted by Al-Monitor, claim that more than 15 MANPADS attacks, carried out directly by Turkish troops, targeted Russian and Syrian jets conducting air raids in southern Idlib after 1 p.m. that day. Some Russian aircraft allegedly suffered damage as they maneuvered to escape the fire. As the attacks on the planes and the Khmeimim base reached an intensity deemed intolerable, the Turkish convoy was hit at 5 p.m.

After the attack, Moscow rejected Ankara’s request to open the Idlib air space to Turkish helicopters to airlift the casualties. As a result, the dead and the wounded were transported by road to a hospital in Reyhanli, a Turkish border town about 70 kilometers (43 miles) from the area.

It was not before 9:30 p.m. that the Turkish public began to hear about the mayhem on social media. At 11 p.m., President Recep Tayyip Erdogan convened an emergency security meeting in Ankara. Remarkably, Ankara singled out the regime as the culprit, with no reference to Russia, in its initial reactions, vowing a powerful retaliation. This is an important sign that Ankara is unwilling to break ties with Moscow immediately, which suggests it will maintain a rhetoric blaming the regime for the attack on the convoy.

Soon after the Turkish public got wind of the bloodshed on social media, the internet slowed across the country and widely used communication means such as Twitter and WhatsApp were throttled. In other words, the authorities appeared to hamper alternative information sources, while the conventional media began to disseminate reports and footage of Turkish troops striking Syrian regime forces in a bid to enforce a perception that the Turkish martyrs were being avenged. Erdogan’s communication chief Fahrettin Altun tweeted a series of messages, vowing a powerful response to “the murderous regime” and underscoring Ankara’s resolve to not withdraw its forces from Idlib.

And what could happen next in Idlib? The picture on the ground is clear: Ankara is now in a conventional war with Damascus, albeit an undeclared one, and has come to the brink of a conventional confrontation with Moscow. Ankara’s blaming of the regime could be seen as an ongoing effort to keep dialogue channels with Moscow open. Yet the signals coming from Moscow are not very encouraging. A face-to-face meeting between Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin appears as the only means that could de-escalate the Turkey-Russia crisis now. According to Erdogan’s communication chief, the two leaders “agreed to meet face to face as soon as possible” during their phone call, yet the Kremlin’s statement was more ambiguous, saying they agreed “to examine the possibility” for such a meeting.

The severity of the death toll is, no doubt, a huge blow for Ankara, but Moscow itself might have failed to foresee such a bloody outcome. The attack will obviously lead to the spillover of tensions beyond Idlib. Turkey is likely to come under mounting pressure to withdraw its military presence in the Euphrates Shield pocket and the Afrin area to the west of the Euphrates and even from areas to the east of the river, which it took hold of in October.

The most critical question now is whether Ankara will be prepared to end its military presence in Syria. Such a move appears unlikely in the near future. Ankara will at least seek to bargain and extract certain concessions from Moscow for a gradual pullout of its troops.

A dramatic escalation in the clashes appears unlikely in the next several days as the actors on the ground — Ankara, Damascus, Moscow and Tehran — will probably try to decide their positions according to their respective moves and inclinations.

Despite Ankara’s hopes for Western support, neither NATO nor the United States are likely to get militarily involved in the crisis immediately. Both will probably pursue a wait-and-see approach for a while to get a better picture of how the Ankara-Moscow crisis evolves.



Read more: Deciphering Turkey’s darkest night in Syria

 

[Silver Cat]

The typical reaction of the ordinary Brits:
Things hotting up with Turkey
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What benefit has the UK garnered from our special relationship ? we surrendered the empire on US demand after you bankrupted the nation. We then became a beacon for your international consensus, as the US flip flopped through the decades and we're generally seen as little satan and the US dogsbody. The US pushed us deeper into the EU and your president dictated the GFA and gave terrorists a pyrrhic victory...... Now we show a few signs of an independent foreign policy and you chuck your toys out of the pram.

With regards Turkey, I don't see them as allies and as you saw with talk of opening the borders, Erdogan is a bully and blackmailer. He made his bed and should sort his mess out alone.
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Emcon Ecomcon said:
and we're generally seen as little satan

We seem to have been demoted from little satan these days with Israel promoted to that spot looking at recent demos in Iran. Perhaps we are just Great Satan's little helpers now
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I am rather hoping Putin steps in and nukes Turkey off the face of the planet.
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French reaction:
La Turquie ne stoppera plus les migrants essayant de se rendre en Europe

paute
le 29/02/2020 09:09

Mais quand va t)on se décider de rompre les relations diplomatiques avec ce dictateur.

skyrunner
le 29/02/2020 08:03

On fait le blocus de la frontière turque. Pas une personne ne passe, retour chez le dictateur.

Kersey50
le 29/02/2020 07:51

Ce mouzz n'a toujours pas compris qu'il est notre serviteur. Il faut le lui rappeler, dans une alliance avec Poutine.

pharmaSceptique
le 29/02/2020 07:12

C'est vraiment un triste sire, il ne faut pas céder au chantage, laissons Poutine s'occuper de lui, et son peuple lui réserveras le sort que tout dictateur mérite.

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paute
on 29/02/2020 09: 09
But when will we decide to break diplomatic relations with this dictator.
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skyrunner
on 29/02/2020 08: 03
We're blocking the Turkish border. Not a person passes, back to the dictator.
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Kersey50
on 29/02/2020 07: 51
This Muzz has still not understood that he is our servant. We must remind him, in an alliance with Putin.
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pharmasceptic
on 29/02/2020 07: 12
This is really a sad sire, do not give in to blackmail, let Putin take care of him, and his people will reserve for him the fate that any dictator deserves.
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How do you call it? Zrada?

 

[Litwin]

 

[Litwin]

Friday, February 28
20:30 GMT - Turkish soldier killed, two wounded
One Turkish soldier was killed and two others wounded in a fresh round of artillery fire by the Russian-backed Syrian forces in northwestern Syria, according to Turkey's defence ministry.

The defence ministry also said on Twitter that 19 military equipment, including eight tanks and four armoured combat vehicles, were destroyed.