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Michal Divon holding a falcon next to Amir Hayek, Israeli ambassador to the UAE. Photo by Muhammad Sajjad

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Note that using the Federal Reserve creates debt service. If the government prints its own money, as the constitution calls for, there is no national debt and no interest.

Note that using the Federal Reserve creates debt service.

How? Be specific.

If the government prints its own money, as the constitution calls for, there is no national debt and no interest.

The Federal government spent almost $7 trillion in 2021.
You think they should have printed $7 trillion last year to cover that spending?
 

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Note that using the Federal Reserve creates debt service.

How? Be specific.

If the government prints its own money, as the constitution calls for, there is no national debt and no interest.

The Federal government spent almost $7 trillion in 2021.
You think they should have printed $7 trillion last year to cover that spending?
Please stop with this issue.
I brought something up with Tinmore, he responded. No need to go on with it on this thread.

We all know what he knows and does not know.
 

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RE: Boycot Israel
SUBTOPIC: Money
⁜→ et al,

FIRST: I have to agree, that the issue of money, the change in our pocket, and the folding money in our wallets is (pretty much) what we mean when we say money.

In the very, very simplest form


◈ The Money Base (sometimes expressed as MB or M0) in its simplest form is too complicated for me.
◈ M1: That is the money most people refer to when they say money is the money supply that includes physical currency and coinage. Including Debit Cards and checkbooks
◈ M2: Is even a bit more complicated, but includes all those overnight deposits that are not yet in your account, but are in the banking system, savings accounts and CDs.
◈ M3: This is the value in money that cannot be immediately accessed (not immediately liquid).
◈ M4: It is money that is not in circulation but on account.​

Please stop with this issue.
I brought something up with Tinmore, he responded. No need to go on with it on this thread.

We all know what he knows and does not know.
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Most of us in this discussion group are not readily aware of what is meant when we say money. When you say money to me, I tend to see the spectrum of many:

Note that using the Federal Reserve creates debt service.

How? Be specific.

If the government prints its own money, as the constitution calls for, there is no national debt and no interest.

The Federal government spent almost $7 trillion in 2021.
You think they should have printed $7 trillion last year to cover that spending?
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When I came back to America in 1988 from Germany, there had been rumors on rumors about how plastic will rule the day, and how important that would be to the M2 (Folding and Coinage) would soon be a thing of the past. But we are not there yet.

If the Treasury were to suddenly start printing money (dollars) to cover the national debt, we would feel a huge impact on trade. The cost of the Market Basket (a cross-section of goods and services used to
calculate the performance relative to the market or value of the monetary system. When I was in high school, I was the Night Manager of a Humble Gas Station. I made ≈ $1.15 per house or just under $3000 a year. The cost of gas is was $0.32/gallon. For one hours work, I could buy 3.6 Gallons. The Triple "A" (AAA) auto club reports that today's average Cost for a gallon of today's gas is ≈ $4.95/gallon. The Ohio Minimum average wage is $4.65 so one hours work of the dollar today you could buy only 1.06 gallons of gas.

The applications of the Market Basket Process will actually tell you if the value of the currency increased or decreased over time. And this has a huge impact on Arab Palestinians as it relates to the measurement of their quality of life.

I am quite sure that the leaders of the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) Movement (both in Ramallah and Gaza) are not communicating to the Arab Palestinian people about economic impact, at a very practical level. how much more do the Arab Palestinians gain for each year they promote the continuation of the war.

IF we are going to discuss economics and the value of money, THEN you are going to have to break it down to a level that actually communicates an idea.

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The Moroccan workers could begin arriving in Israel by the beginning of 2023, he added.


They would earn higher salaries in Israel, Moyal noted. The average annual salary in Morocco is approximately $11,400, while the minimum wage for construction workers in Israel is almost twice as much.

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Alarm bells recently went off among American Jews when Boston BDS, a shadowy group that has no identified members, published a detailed, interactive Mapping Project report online.


The report is a roadmap to anti-Jewish violence: The Mapping Projectbrazenly and openly maps and promotes “dismantling” and “disrupting” long lists of Boston-area Jewish institutions across the political spectrum, synagogues throughout Massachusetts, staff members, Jewish family foundations, schools and numerous other entities that allegedly have some sort of connection, past or present, real or imagined, to American Jews, Judaism, Jewish charities, Jewish education, Jewish donors or Israel.


Congressman Seth Moulton (D-MA) aptly called the Mapping Project a dangerous “antisemitic enemies list with a map attached.” The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) sent a detailed letter to the US attorney-general and FBI director, urging them to investigate, monitor and where appropriate, prosecute the Mapping Project and other groups, such as Within Our Lifetime (WOL), which are mapping, promoting and inciting violence against American Jews and Jewish organizations.

The Boston BDS Mapping Project and groups such as WOL have laid bare the true nature of BDS and the reality of the threats against us. BDS is not a civil rights movement aimed at improving Israel. BDS is a political, propaganda, cultural and economic-warfare campaign to completely dismantle and eradicate Israel, and more. In fact, we are dealing with a warfare campaign against the entire Jewish people, wherever they may be.

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Alarm bells recently went off among American Jews when Boston BDS, a shadowy group that has no identified members, published a detailed, interactive Mapping Project report online.


The report is a roadmap to anti-Jewish violence: The Mapping Projectbrazenly and openly maps and promotes “dismantling” and “disrupting” long lists of Boston-area Jewish institutions across the political spectrum, synagogues throughout Massachusetts, staff members, Jewish family foundations, schools and numerous other entities that allegedly have some sort of connection, past or present, real or imagined, to American Jews, Judaism, Jewish charities, Jewish education, Jewish donors or Israel.


Congressman Seth Moulton (D-MA) aptly called the Mapping Project a dangerous “antisemitic enemies list with a map attached.” The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) sent a detailed letter to the US attorney-general and FBI director, urging them to investigate, monitor and where appropriate, prosecute the Mapping Project and other groups, such as Within Our Lifetime (WOL), which are mapping, promoting and inciting violence against American Jews and Jewish organizations.

The Boston BDS Mapping Project and groups such as WOL have laid bare the true nature of BDS and the reality of the threats against us. BDS is not a civil rights movement aimed at improving Israel. BDS is a political, propaganda, cultural and economic-warfare campaign to completely dismantle and eradicate Israel, and more. In fact, we are dealing with a warfare campaign against the entire Jewish people, wherever they may be.

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WOW, is that misleading.
 

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A bit like reptiles eating their young.

It does seem as though BDS’ers are devolving into splintered hate groups




 

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From JTA:


A US federal appeals court upheld an Arkansas state law requiring all public contractors to promise they won’t boycott Israel in a Wednesday ruling, overturning an earlier decision that had said the contract violates the First Amendment.

The ruling by the St. Louis-based US Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit was a major victory for pro-Israel activists who have pushed around 30 states to adopt so-called “anti-BDS” laws — intended to strike back against the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement targeting Israel — in recent years. The plaintiffs say they plan to appeal to the US Supreme Court, a process that could result in a nationwide showdown over the constitutionality of all anti-boycott laws.

It was the first time a federal appeals court ruled in favor of laws forbidding public contractors from being involved in any Israel boycott movements.

Such laws have been heavily opposed by civil liberties groups and press freedom advocates, who say they violate free speech. Federal courts have previously ruled that similar anti-boycott state laws in Georgia, Arizona, Kansas and Texas are unconstitutional.

But the Eighth Circuit, minus one dissenting judge, found that an anti-boycott contract provision does not infringe on the signer’s free speech rights because it “does not require them to publicly endorse or disseminate a message.” Instead, the court said, the clause requests “compliance” with a financial regulation — which the court says is a form of “noncommunicative” speech not protected by the First Amendment.

The case that was brought up is a perfect example of why anti-boycott laws have nothing to do with free speech.

A state-funded school, the Pulaski Technical College of the University of Arizona, stopped advertising in the alt-weekly Arkansas Times unless the paper signed the anti-BDS pledge. The newspaper sued, saying that this impeded its rights to free speech. (It seems to me that suing to force the school to spend money on advertising in the paper is a bit more of a violation of free speech than refusing to advertise is, but I'm no lawyer....)

As the court decision states,

[T]he certification requirement here is markedly different from other compelled speech cases. Although it requires contractors to agree to a contract provision they would otherwise not include, it does not require them to publicly endorse or disseminate a message. ....We are not aware of any cases where a court has held that a certification requirement concerning unprotected, nondiscriminatory conduct is unconstitutionally compelled speech. A factual disclosure of this kind, aimed at verifying compliance with unexpressive conduct-based regulations, is not the kind of compelled speech prohibited by the First Amendment.

The newspaper was not being asked to adopt a pro-Israel editorial position - which would be an obvious violation of free speech. They could have a banner headline telling readers to boycott Israel.

The irony is that the law is meant to uphold equal treatment for Israel. The only people who want to discriminate are those who want to single out Israel for boycott. Such a law would be unnecessary without people singling out Israeli Jews (and only Jews) as objects of attack.

Boycotting Israeli businesses as a policy is as immoral and reprehensible as boycotting businesses that are owned by people of color or women. Individuals can choose who they will or will not do business with, but a state has every right not to do business with those who pro-actively discriminate against companies owned by those with a specific national origin.

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