Both Georgia Senate Races Likely Headed to Runoff and Will Probably Favor the GOP

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[kyzr]

Don't forget that military and provisional ballots can still put Perdue over 50%, and might even help Trump win.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Umm, you were promoting this grand idea that, "it will be ok the government is divided".

LOL I love how some pretend they are fooled when they find out, "oh snap, the Dems really DO want ultimate power. They really do want a China First, socialist shytehole, and they might get it reaaaaal soon!"

Dems will control the W.H, the Senate and the House. I'd take 2-1 odds that this happens, even as apparently they are under dogs in GA.

Buckle up. Some made their bed, now everyone has to sleep in it. As for Trump voters being angry, yes, angry enough to AVOID supporting the Establishment. Angry enough to say "F it, you sat by idly while Trump was fighting the good fight, good luck in the food stamp line".

The only ones most motivated to vote are Dems in GA, they will have HUNDREDS of millions of dollars shipped there. Hell, maybe $500M!

 

[xband]

Umm, you were promoting this grand idea that, "it will be ok the government is divided".

LOL I love how some pretend they are fooled when they find out, "oh snap, the Dems really DO want ultimate power".

Dems will control the W.H, the Senate and the House. I'd take 2-1 odds that this happens, even as apparently they are under dogs in GA.

Bucket up. Some made their bed, now everyone has to sleep in it. As for Trump voters being angry, yes, angry enough to AVOID supporting the Establishment. Angry enough to say "F it, you sat by idly while Trump was fighting the good fight, good luck in the food stamp line".

Now the Dems have to worry about SCOTUS. No rest for the wicked.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Don't forget that military and provisional ballots can still put Perdue over 50%, and might even help Trump win.

They may help Perdue, but no, they will not help Trump win. Trump is done.

 

[bendog]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't know much of Ga politics, but Perdue has his own merits in running against Ossaf. I thought Staci Abrams screwed up in not staking out a claim.

But Loeffler is not a sympathetic candidate. And it should be difficult for anyone not to admire Warnock and his life choices.

 

[xband]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't know much of Ga politics, but Perdue has his own merits in running against Ossaf. I thought Staci Abrams screwed up in not staking out a claim.

But Loeffler is not a sympathetic candidate. And it should be difficult for anyone not to admire Warnock and his life choices.

I know you have heard of Perdue chicken. Billionaire.

 

[kyzr]

Don't forget that military and provisional ballots can still put Perdue over 50%, and might even help Trump win.

They may help Perdue, but no, they will not help Trump win. Trump is done.

Don't pooh-pooh the military and provisional ballots.
There are many thousands of them, more than enough to matter in a close election.

 

[CowboyTed]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

Generally I agree with you but it is probability and there is one big if... Both Perdue and Loffner are caught up in the COVID shares scandal... I thought this got lost in the noise of everything else...
Front and center on Democratic campaign will be the image of these two center hearing about how horrific COVID is going to be and there first thought was to play the stock market and personally gain. Personally I thought anyone, Democrat or Republican who did this should be gone.. A proper investigation which is open and transparent, but if guilty, should rot in hell... Don't care which party...

 

[xband]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

Generally I agree with you but it is probability and there is one big if... Both Perdue and Loffner are caught up in the COVID shares scandal... I thought this got lost in the noise of everything else...
Front and center on Democratic campaign will be the image of these two center hearing about how horrific COVID is going to be and there first thought was to play the stock market and personally gain. Personally I thought anyone, Democrat or Republican who did this should be gone.. A proper investigation which is open and transparent, but if guilty, should rot in hell... Don't care which party...

I don't wear the stinking mask and Covid ignores me. The mask itches my nose.

 

[bendog]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't know much of Ga politics, but Perdue has his own merits in running against Ossaf. I thought Staci Abrams screwed up in not staking out a claim.

But Loeffler is not a sympathetic candidate. And it should be difficult for anyone not to admire Warnock and his life choices.

I know you have heard of Perdue chicken. Billionaire.

I don't think he's tied to the chix, not that there'd be anything wrong with it. His Jew baiting and Race baiting made him dead to me, but I don't live in Ga. Before that, I didn't see anything that bad about him. I mean the thing is, aside from Trumpism which is not just coherent, we've been on a spectrum of FDR economic liberalism to Reagan right leaning, but accepting of soc sec and medicare and even Medicaid. I'm sure some in the gop will say Obamacare was a radical departure, but I just don't see it as that …. Medicare for All would be a const tax, and Obama care didn't go that far. I can live with anyone not …. incoherent and crazy.

David Perdue - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[xband]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't know much of Ga politics, but Perdue has his own merits in running against Ossaf. I thought Staci Abrams screwed up in not staking out a claim.

But Loeffler is not a sympathetic candidate. And it should be difficult for anyone not to admire Warnock and his life choices.

I know you have heard of Perdue chicken. Billionaire.

I don't think he's tied to the chix, not that there'd be anything wrong with it. His Jew baiting and Race baiting made him dead to me, but I don't live in Ga. Before that, I didn't see anything that bad about him. I mean the thing is, aside from Trumpism which is not just coherent, we've been on a spectrum of FDR economic liberalism to Reagan right leaning, but accepting of soc sec and medicare and even Medicaid. I'm sure some in the gop will say Obamacare was a radical departure, but I just don't see it as that …. Medicare for All would be a const tax, and Obama care didn't go that far. I can live with anyone not …. incoherent and crazy.

David Perdue - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Blame too much Testosterone.

 

[Moonglow]

Georgia is headed for a recount and says no total till end of month.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Generally I agree with you but it is probability and there is one big if... Both Perdue and Loffner are caught up in the COVID shares scandal... I thought this got lost in the noise of everything else...
Front and center on Democratic campaign will be the image of these two center hearing about how horrific COVID is going to be and there first thought was to play the stock market and personally gain. Personally I thought anyone, Democrat or Republican who did this should be gone.. A proper investigation which is open and transparent, but if guilty, should rot in hell... Don't care which party...

Loeffler was cleared of any wrong doing, but I agree, they will definitely raise that as an issue in the campaign. The Republicans can afford to lose one of the seats and retain control, but not both.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

The special election was a given as there were a bazillion candidates running in that one, but Perdue initially seemed like he was going to win outright. In the past 24 hours, as more mail in votes have been counted, he has slightly dipped under the 50% threshold to trigger a run off. Unless that changes both seats will be decided in a January election. While these both will be knock down drag out fights for sure with millions poured into them, I think both of these races will favor the Republican candidates.

First, despite Trump appearing to now be losing the state, Georgia is still Republican leaning and as we've seen from the results in other parts of the country, the animosity from voters has been more towards Trump as opposed to the Republican Party as a whole. Raphael Warnock has also made some pretty charged statements, such as referring to the police as "thugs, bullies, and gangsters," which may come back to bite him in the ass. Although he gained a plurality of votes, with 33%, the next two candidates, Loeffler (the incumbent) and Collins combined put up 46%. After that it was a smattering of single digit and less vote tallies from about a dozen or so other minor candidates.

Second, Trump voters will be angry. We've spent the last three days listening to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory of a stolen election. They are not going to let themselves lose the Senate next, which by default would happen if both of these seats are won the by Democrat. That would make it a 50/50 split with Kamala Harris as the tie breakers, thus putting Schumer in charge. You can absolutely guarantee every Trump voter will be voting in those two special elections, which brings me to my third point.

The Republican base will have the motivation to get out and vote in this. The Democrats' number one goal was to get rid of Trump and they have succeeded. While they will certainly campaign on control of the Senate to give the Democrats the trifecta they would need to control the agenda, I'm not sure that's going to be as motivating to their base as deposing Trump was, particularly when you consider the Democrats came up way short down the ballot. They failed to decisively capture the Senate majority. They actually lost several seats in the House, which not even the most accurate pollster predicted would happen. They dumped tens of millions into state legislative races to try and win majorities and control redistricting and it failed. A lot of people voted against Trump, but voted Republican down ballot who didn't necessarily agree with the Democrats' agenda.

This will ultimately be a ground game of who can turn out their base the most and I think the GOP will do a better job of it.

Senate GOP declares "Senate is last line of defense" after Biden-Harris projected win

The two Senate races in Georgia are both likely going to runoff elections on January 5.

www.cbsnews.com

There is so much gaslighting/naivety in this post I don't even know where to start.

 

[Polishprince]

If I were advising the D's in Georgia, I'd tell them to bring in Petey Buttigieg in for the campaign.

The LGBTQ community is huge in the Peach State, particularly out in those hills and woods. I was watching the film Deliverance about the gays in Georgia, the D's need to do a series of political ads with the theme song "Dueling Banjos".