Black Communities Ravaged by COVID-19. Black Churches Still Meeting.

[Superbadbrutha]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

That's a lie. But then again you're fucking loop di loop.

Bullshit!
The euphemism is Ebonics. It transcends region and thereby demonstrates segregation. You’re so brainwashed you can’t get your head out of the box.

Have you ever became a member of a black church?

 

[gulfman]

When I die and go to heaven and become an angel I'm worried about some black wanting to eat my wings

 

[Godboy]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?

The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

 

[KissMy]

World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that some countries deemed the coronavirus threat “less worthy of the best efforts to contain it” because those who are most affected are senior or older people.

"If anything is going to hurt the world, it is moral decay. And not taking the death of the elderly or the senior citizens as a serious issue is moral decay,” said Ghebreyesus. “Any individual, whatever age, any human being matters.”

Ghebreyesus said the WHO declared a pandemic because of the speed and scale of transmission of the virus and the “lack of political commitment in some countries to control it, despite our frequent warnings.” He declined to name the countries that did not act quickly or drastically enough to contain the spread of COVID-19. However, the United States is thought to be among them.

The WHO recommends countries contain the virus by finding, isolating, testing and treating every person known to come into contact with an infected person. The WHO says mitigation, including social distancing strategies, is not enough. It has taken weeks for the U.S. government to provide state and local public health authorities with test kits to identify those who are infected by the virus and people who came in contact with the infected.

 

[Montrovant]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?

The last thing you want is for whites to be like blacks. Do you really want white mobs beating down black people?

Because that's how you think of blacks, as people who form mobs and beat people?

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

They are already starting in on the racism absolutely. Of course it's racism and not the fact that Blacks in Detroit are still congregating in family groups; still going to church in groups.

Although Detroit has the highest concentration of cases, several suburbs that surround the city have low rates of coronavirus including Dearborn, Allen Park and Grosse Pointe Park.

All are predominantly white.

Tlaib said “it is very clear that structural racism is showing its ugly face during this global pandemic.”

“It is communities of color, especially the African-American community in my district, that you see getting directly impacted,” she said.

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, an epidemiologist, said even if it was made public, existing data on coronavirus may not illustrate the full effect in communities of color.

“We're testing only people who come in with severe disease,” said El-Sayed, the former health director of the City of Detroit who ran for governor in 2018 as a Democrat.

“Frankly, I think that we would be very much underestimating the burden that this disease has in low-income communities and communities of color.”

I'm black sue, please stop trying to tell me what blacks are thinking. Funny how you are on this but you run from the reality of white racist American public policy. COVID19 will hit the black community hard due to the scarcity of medical facilities in that community, low incomes and the inability to afford health insurance. And that is due to racism. So like I said, you don't want to discuss white racist American public policy, but you want to run your mouth about some black churches in Detroit.

Everyone knows what blacks are thinking. You guys cant stop talking about racism.

That's because you guys can't stop being racists.

Blah blah blah racism.

It's all you clowns have. Nobody gives a shit about your identity politics.

Given that whites invented identity politics and still practice it, your psychosis is noted.

If you hate whitey so much why are you living in a predominantly white country? There's a whole goddamn continent full of your brethren. Go there. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

LOL! Same old dumb shit from a different white racist asshole. I was born here, so I will live here. I have a constitutional right to air my grievance. If you don't like that, there's a whole continent full of your brethren. Go there. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

"Look at me, I'm a victim!!"

^That's literally all your diatribes are. You're pathetic.

Nah, that's not it fragile boy. I descend from people who have endured what your punk ass never could. So what you need to do softie is go into your community and rid it of the insecurity and victim mentality that allows white racism to continue.

Your supposed endurance clearly hasn't morphed into any form of achievement or ambition, because here you are demanding "do this for me whitey" - typical African American behavior. I don't need to do shit. And your infantile rants aren't going to make me do shit. But feel free to keep screaming "gibs me dat!!" while society passes you by like the little fucking leech you are.

As we all recall, black folk were brought here by your so called founders to build a nation for the euros. In other words, black folk would not have been here if whites didn't need them to do everything. Whites were given centuries of free labor and pussy, which they really really liked a lot.

You are Europe's caste offs, descended from a lot that could not cut it there.

Look at you know, faced with your own version of smallpox laden blankets and bibles. No immunity? Too bad. Manifest destiny come full circle, home to roost.

I'm pretty sure the COVID-19 virus affects people of all races...

The problem is, black people thought they were immune to it, so they ignored the warnings. Now here we are.

Black people thought they were immune? WTF?
This is the first time I’ve heard that one.

Coronavirus outbreak revives dangerous race myths and pseudoscience

Most fictional claims about black immunity to the coronavirus are connected to a long history of contradictory but uniformly racist ideas.

www.nbcnews.com

Black People Are Not Immune To Coronavirus: How The Meme Started

There is a lot of misinformation out there. So we're separating what is true and false in regards to Black people and the Coronavirus.

www.okayplayer.com

Column: Let’s stop the spread — of the myth black people are immune to the coronavirus

One of my young friends posted this on Facebook the other day: “Corona lowering gas prices, flights, cruises and not messing with black people? God showing out.” It wasn’t a surpr…

www.chicagotribune.com

Are Black People Immune to the Coronavirus? - BlackDoctor.org!

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Ah, social media, how you feed us false information.

It doesn't sound like a lot of people were falling for that. Saying "black people thought they were immune to it" makes it sound as though all blacks thought they were immune.

When has there ever been a group of people who "all" thought the exact same thing? MANY black people were falling for it. It was rampant on Black Twitter.

When was there a group of people who all repeatedly bought into endless duplicitous illegal unconstitutional wars of aggression and a war machine occupying 70% of the nations on the planet, while supporting 73% of the world's dictatorships? Which economically cannibalized society to such an extent that the poord sods were feckless floundering sitting ducks for an emerging retroviral pandemic in the glorious delusional age of Reality America?

Wait until the 'virus' hits the African continent pal. Then you'll be able to scream your nappy head off about how Trump is a racist and wants every negro in Africa to die.

Hard to hide that racist tongue, isn't it.

Nah it ain't. They do it all day, every day. Anally impacted, emotionally. So they bring it here where they don't have to stand behind it.

 

[SweetSue92]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

 

[Montrovant]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

How many pastors have been arrested of any race?

 

[IM2]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

Whites can assimilate into black organizations and activities. There is nothing wrong with the NAACP and whites are eligible to be members.

Joining the club is one thing but a white walking around saying nigga just ain’t gonna happen.

What does saying nigga have to do with white folks attending a black church?

They would have to be allowed to say that. The segregationists in that church wouldn’t allow. It’s symbolic of the nonacceptance of whites. Always maintaining a barrier.

No. That's has nothing to do with non acceptance of whites. It is a refusal to let whites disrespect us. Son, you're talking crazy. Are you Corrells lover?

Well yeah, but that's the point, there are an awful lot of fragile white males in america who think it's their inalienable right to disrespect everyone.

Yeah, they call respect political correctness.

 

[IM2]

Sue,

This is where the psychosis starts. You made this a thread about race from the start. Only 2 pastors that we know of have been arrested period. The majority of all churches, regardless of race are not meeting. The pastor of the church who you cry about was shipping in thousands of people to attend service. But you got a case of asshurt because a white pastor got arrested in one state while in another state some blacks were having church and pastors didn’t get arrested. The fact that different policies existed in those states didn’t seem to register in your mind, you just wanted to bitch about blacks not getting arrested while 2 white pastors did in order to claim how motherfucking whites are victims and blacks get special protection. And that’s what racists do. As a black man, I’d sure like to get that list of special protections we are supposed to be getting especially since the Florida governor made a exception for all religions and that it was a local rule that got that pastor arrested before the governor made that exception. So please get me the address, phone number or website for the black special protection agency, you racist scumbag.

 

[strollingbones]

is sue concerned about pagan priest not being arrested...or muslim imans or jewish rabbis.....the list goes on and on but sue locks on to ....blacks blacks blacks...

 

[strollingbones]

but she is no bigot

 

[dannyboys]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?

Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

White churches are still meeting as well, so if 2 black pastors were arrested would you be happy?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?

Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

Negro churches, get their car stripped. Well at least you don't hide your racism.

 

[SweetSue92]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

White churches are still meeting as well, so if 2 black pastors were arrested would you be happy?

They won't be. They won't be even though COVID is disproportionately ravaging the black community.

That's the entire point of this thread.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

White churches are still meeting as well, so if 2 black pastors were arrested would you be happy?

They won't be. They won't be even though COVID is disproportionately ravaging the black community.

That's the entire point of this thread.

So how is the Corona virus ravaging black communities more than it is ravaging white communities?

Are you denying that white churches are still having services as well.

Also if 2 black pastor are arrested would that make you feel better?

 

[IM2]

And yet, AMAZINGLY, White Leftist Shamers on USMB are silent about it and we don't see any Black Pastors being arrested on television. We have fat crocodile tears about the "mega churches". (Black churches are never "mega churches" for some reason.)

I wonder why that is, any ideas?

When deciding to close the doors of black churches, congregational leaders across the US wrestle with unique considerations. Paul J. James, pastor of CareView Community Church in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, noted in an interview with The Undefeated how closing is “counterintuitive to most churches, especially the black church… where we’re just glad to get together because of how hard life has been historically for us here in America. Church has been a safe place for us. It’s been a safe harbor. Now here we are faced with the inability to come together.”

Last week, the federal government strongly urged Americans not to gather in groups of more than 10, and restrictions keep coming. We suspect that many churches will close in the near future, but the decision will not been easy.

In St. Louis, the mayor hosted a teleconference with 300 clergy, including many of black churches, to urge them not to hold services. While some chose to stop meetings and modify their ministries, others struggled to make the change.

In Michigan, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer banned gatherings of more than 50 but then exempted churches from penalties. This will give some churches more options, though many are choosing to modify in some way. Triumph Church, which has seven locations in the Detroit area, will continue to gather in person, for now, though it expanded the number of services to reduce congregation size and is asking members to register ahead of time so it can maintain at least six feet between worshippers. It is also providing an online service and a drive-in service.

A lot of things inform these responses to the coronavirus outbreak: culture, histories of discrimination, and marginalization, as well as faith-based values. People experience events like COVID-19 not only as individuals but also in communities and in the social locations we inhabit. As social scientists—Deidra as a black woman doing research on HPV and Elaine as a white woman who studies how religious organizations respond to science—we offer some observations based on our research for the past 10 years at the Religion and Public Life Program at Rice University. We have been gathering upwards of 150 religious and civic leaders regularly to talk about how we can use social science research on religion to build common ground for the common good.

It’s Hard to Close Black Churches amid COVID-19

African American clergy respond to pandemic with unique considerations of culture, history, and faith values.

www.christianitytoday.com

Drop the white victimhood lady. There are black mega churches. And apparently blacks in Florida aren't holding services in churches. And its always funny when a republican like you suddenly gets so concerned about blacks only after somebody white gets arrested for something that you can't see blacks getting arrested for.

Nobody black will be calling COVID19 a racist disease. But that's how you racists see black people. Normal non racist whites would not make that kind of comment.

Black churches need to close just like everybody else. But what you really need to do Sue is work on ending the racism in the white community that has you posting this instead of whining "what about black pastors, why don't they get arrested."

Why must there still be ‘black’ churches and why does everyone have to accept that without question?

Why are there black churches? Could it be because black folks couldn't attend the white ones. Duh.

Don't hurt em with documented history like that Superbad. They want to live with amnesia in peace.

And who is stopping them now? No one. Just because blacks refuse to integrate doesn’t mean non-blacks are segregationist. You have it completely on the wrong foot.

What's stopping whites from attending black churches? Answer that one.

The same thing that stops any assimilated American regardless of skin color.

Wrong. You want to make it like blacks are the racists when everything about the black relationship with whites is due to our response to white racism. That's why black churches exist, it is why black organizations exist, etc. We did not create the exclusion, whites did. There is no assimilation into white culture, there is a creation of a multi cultural nation that is inclusive.

If it was still 1965 you’d have a point.
But just as with so many other issues, the messenger becomes bigger than the message and must perpetuate and amplify a mostly non-existent problem in order to justify their existence.

Ok let's start from scratch here. Black folks were NOT ALLOWED to attend White churches up until the late 60s, so black folks had to create their OWN places of worship. After integration are you saying that we were suppose to just shut down ALL the black churches and go worship at white churches.

55 years is a long time. And you don’t have to shut black churches. Just encourage assimilation. But that would undermine the existence of the NAACP’s of the world.

So why don't whites assimilate to Black Churches if it's that easy.

You mean why don’t assimilated people become black? Black culture segregates itself in the name of perceived blackness and transcends geography. It’s rooted in skin color. Assimilated people reflect the culture of their region. Most are white but the skin color isn’t the predicate.
You have the shoe on the wrong foot.

Didn't answer the question, why haven't white folks started attending black churches. There is no ban of white folks in black churches so your analogy makes no sense.

Because they don’t identify with a self-segregating culture that defines itself by a different and specific skin color. It’s a foreign country. Africa America.

I guess that explains Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc.

And they’ve all assimilated and speak the dialect of the region. Segregationist blacks speak the same dialect regardless of region. That puts it in perspective.

You are avoiding the question. Why haven't whites assimilated to black churches?

Because Whites don't want to go to negro churches.
They are concerned their car will get stripped while they are in church.

Blacks drive to church and their cars are not stripped. More senseless USMB white racism just like this thread is a race bait thread that should be moved to the rubber room.

 

[IM2]

Apparently no blacks were holding church in Tampa which is why no blacks were arrested. We'll just ignore the state exceptions for religions that are in most states so that sue can bitch about how no black preacher got arrested so she can whine about how unfair life is for white "Christians."

 

[IM2]

Mods I'm amazed you haven't moved this to the Race forum. This thread somehow became about everything Black v. White but was REALLY intended to be this: Black churches are still meeting and no one seems upset about this. To my knowledge, it is April 5th and still no Black pastors have been arrested.

So here we are.

White churches are still meeting as well, so if 2 black pastors were arrested would you be happy?

They won't be. They won't be even though COVID is disproportionately ravaging the black community.

That's the entire point of this thread.

So how is the Corona virus ravaging black communities more than it is ravaging white communities?

Are you denying that white churches are still having services as well.

Also if 2 black pastor are arrested would that make you feel better?

Sue is another white "expert" on the black community.