Birx confirms covid death counts are wrong

[Lesh]

UPDATE: Dr. Birx Confirms Anyone Who Dies WITH Coronavirus, Regardless of Any Underlying Health Condition, is Being Counted as a COVID-19 Death (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

From the article, note Dr Birx quote:

"Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by Coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they are characterized?” the reporter asked Birx.

“If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

There is a big difference between dying with the virus and from the virus.

SHe's playing with numbers because Trump is telling her to.

She also said that 240,000 would die

Nothing is going to save Trump. We ALL know how incompetent and indifferent he has been

 

[mikegriffith1]

UPDATE: Dr. Birx Confirms Anyone Who Dies WITH Coronavirus, Regardless of Any Underlying Health Condition, is Being Counted as a COVID-19 Death (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

From the article, note Dr Birx quote:

"Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by Coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they are characterized?” the reporter asked Birx.

“If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

There is a big difference between dying with the virus and from the virus.

Figures never lie but liars often figure.

This is the new game the right wants to play. If the pneumonia which Covid19 causes kills you, they want your death certificate to say you died of pneumonia, not Covid19. If you have an underlying condition and the stress on your body from Covid19 triggers a heart attack, they want the death certificate to say "heart attack", even though neither death would have occurred without the Covid19 which triggered them.

Since there are unlikely to be autopsies on these folks to determine which underlying condition lead to their deaths, we won't know the precise cause of death. And since most of the people who die have underlying conditions in the first place, which left them vulnerable to covid19, it's a chicken and egg thing.

Trump wants to lower the number of deaths from Covid19 so his death numbers don't look so bad.

It is you who is playing games. FYI, the CDC distinguishes between pneumonia deaths triggered by COVID-19 and pneumonia deaths without COVID-19 infection, but it must rely on numbers provided by local authorities, who don't always make the distinction. And guess which one has caused far more deaths this year?

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

 

[Lesh]

800 dead I’m NYC alone yesterday.. and you’re playing games with numbers

Shameful

 

[basquebromance]

Will things ever get back to “normal?”⁠

If ‘back to normal’ means acting like there never was a corona problem, I don’t think that’s going to happen until we do have a situation where you can completely protect the population with a vaccine

 

[basquebromance]

from WaPost:

"Sarah Gilbert, a vaccinology professor at Oxford University, told the Times of London in an article published Saturday that she is “80 percent” confident that a vaccine for the coronavirus could be ready by September. "

 

[Crepitus]

UPDATE: Dr. Birx Confirms Anyone Who Dies WITH Coronavirus, Regardless of Any Underlying Health Condition, is Being Counted as a COVID-19 Death (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

From the article, note Dr Birx quote:

"Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by Coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they are characterized?” the reporter asked Birx.

“If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

There is a big difference between dying with the virus and from the virus.

This stupidity again?

What are the chances lots of people with the virus are dying of other things?

Damn near zero.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

UPDATE: Dr. Birx Confirms Anyone Who Dies WITH Coronavirus, Regardless of Any Underlying Health Condition, is Being Counted as a COVID-19 Death (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

From the article, note Dr Birx quote:

"Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by Coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they are characterized?” the reporter asked Birx.

“If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

There is a big difference between dying with the virus and from the virus.

Figures never lie but liars often figure.

This is the new game the right wants to play. If the pneumonia which Covid19 causes kills you, they want your death certificate to say you died of pneumonia, not Covid19. If you have an underlying condition and the stress on your body from Covid19 triggers a heart attack, they want the death certificate to say "heart attack", even though neither death would have occurred without the Covid19 which triggered them.

Since there are unlikely to be autopsies on these folks to determine which underlying condition lead to their deaths, we won't know the precise cause of death. And since most of the people who die have underlying conditions in the first place, which left them vulnerable to covid19, it's a chicken and egg thing.

Trump wants to lower the number of deaths from Covid19 so his death numbers don't look so bad.

Lefties DESPERATELY want to see as much death as possible, since it could facilitate the rapid trajectory toward communism. Lower deaths and drugs that Trump touts that work are obstacles in the way of communism. This is why lefties are doing everything possible to inflate the numbers. Lots of death is good for lefties, but inflating the numbers is the next best thing.

Another boring partisan rant from a know nothing Cult45 member. Verbal vomit.

 

[Toro]

UPDATE: Dr. Birx Confirms Anyone Who Dies WITH Coronavirus, Regardless of Any Underlying Health Condition, is Being Counted as a COVID-19 Death (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

From the article, note Dr Birx quote:

"Can you talk about your concerns about deaths being misreported by Coronavirus because of either testing or standards for how they are characterized?” the reporter asked Birx.

“If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” Birx said.

There is a big difference between dying with the virus and from the virus.

I'm sure the families whose loved ones died from complications from COVID-19 will feel comforted by that.

 

[berg80]

800 dead I’m NYC alone yesterday.. and you’re playing games with numbers

Shameful

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

 

[HenryBHough]

The only MD less highly regarded than Dr. Bricks is Dr. Stump.

 

[protectionist]

Figures never lie but liars often figure.

This is the new game the right wants to play. If the pneumonia which Covid19 causes kills you, they want your death certificate to say you died of pneumonia, not Covid19. If you have an underlying condition and the stress on your body from Covid19 triggers a heart attack, they want the death certificate to say "heart attack", even though neither death would have occurred without the Covid19 which triggered them.

Since there are unlikely to be autopsies on these folks to determine which underlying condition lead to their deaths, we won't know the precise cause of death. And since most of the people who die have underlying conditions in the first place, which left them vulnerable to covid19, it's a chicken and egg thing.

Trump wants to lower the number of deaths from Covid19 so his death numbers don't look so bad.

This sounds a bit too convenient for Democrat election purposes to be be taken too seriously. You say "they want the death certificate to say", but you're not telling us what the death certificate does say. Most people would surmise that if someone dies, the first thing to be looked at is a Covid test. If it's positive, that;s likely to be mentioned on the death certificate , and then counted in the numbers of Covid deaths.

I'm just speculating, but then so were you. Difference is, I'm not calling anyone a liar.

 

[protectionist]

800 dead I’m NYC alone yesterday.. and you’re playing games with numbers

Shameful

I don't believe that, and you show NOTHING to confirm it.

 

[protectionist]

This stupidity again?

What are the chances lots of people with the virus are dying of other things?

Damn near zero.

For once I agree with YOU, and I disagree with Christine Lalia. I see no reason for Lalia to say what she said, and if people die with the virus, the chances are very high that the virus caused it, or at least we could say that without the virus, the person would still be living.

So if all deaths where the deceased had the virus are being counted as a Covid death, then the great numbers of sharply declining deaths is all the more accurate, and Trump emerges as HERO, from all the things he has done to stop Americans from dying. Some governors can get credit too. I said SOME.

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

Total Deaths	129,056
2/1/2020	0
2/8/2020	1
2/15/2020	0
2/22/2020	5
2/29/2020	6
3/7/2020	34
3/14/2020	52
3/21/2020	563
3/28/2020	3,139
4/4/2020	9,920
4/11/2020	16,049
4/18/2020	16,943
4/25/2020	15,291
5/2/2020	13,017
5/9/2020	11,010
5/16/2020	9,000
5/23/2020	7,021
5/30/2020	5,981
6/6/2020	4,834
6/13/2020	4,008
6/20/2020	3,496
6/27/2020	3,171
7/4/2020	3,082
7/11/2020	2,097
7/18/2020	336

 

[Dragonlady]

Figures never lie but liars often figure.

This is the new game the right wants to play. If the pneumonia which Covid19 causes kills you, they want your death certificate to say you died of pneumonia, not Covid19. If you have an underlying condition and the stress on your body from Covid19 triggers a heart attack, they want the death certificate to say "heart attack", even though neither death would have occurred without the Covid19 which triggered them.

Since there are unlikely to be autopsies on these folks to determine which underlying condition lead to their deaths, we won't know the precise cause of death. And since most of the people who die have underlying conditions in the first place, which left them vulnerable to covid19, it's a chicken and egg thing.

Trump wants to lower the number of deaths from Covid19 so his death numbers don't look so bad.

This sounds a bit too convenient for Democrat election purposes to be be taken too seriously. You say "they want the death certificate to say", but you're not telling us what the death certificate does say. Most people would surmise that if someone dies, the first thing to be looked at is a Covid test. If it's positive, that;s likely to be mentioned on the death certificate , and then counted in the numbers of Covid deaths.

I'm just speculating, but then so were you. Difference is, I'm not calling anyone a liar.

When every indicator is that covid19 deaths are being UNDERCOUNTED, due to people dying at home and not even going in for a test, and then someone comes along and tries to claim the opposite, that's trying to manipulate the data. The reasons for reducing the number of deaths is purely political, that's lying.

Trump wants the deaths undercounted. He's always fears the numbers - cases and deaths make HIM look bad. He's also partisanized the virus from day one and it's hampering the efforts to stop the virus. He attacks Democratic governors - especially the women, like the governnor of Michigan.

Republican governors, like Ron DeSantis, have refused to issue mask mandates because Donald Trump won't wear a mask. The idiot governor of Georgia is suing the Mayor of Atlanta for issuing a mask mandate for her city.

6 months after the virus reached New York, there is NO EXCUSE for what's happening in Florida, Texas or Arizona. California isn't running out of PPE's, their hospitals aren't over-run as their cases spike, and they've walked back many of their re-opening strategies.

Texas, Florida and Arizona SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. These people learning NOTHING, from New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. They didn't use the time to prepare, to stockpile PPE's, and they full on re-opened as if the disease wasn't happening at all.

You've partisanized EVERYTHING, and the virus is not partisan. The virus doesn't care about the election, and it doesn't differentiate between red states and blue states. It looks for careless people to let it in, to go out and hang out in close proximity with others.

My province has a Conservative government. The federal government is Liberal. The moment the virus hit, partisan politics were done. Ontario Premier Doug Ford actually PRAISED the assistance he received from the federal Minister of Health. 7 of the provinces currently have Conservative governments. And yet we're all Canadians and everyone worked TOGETHER to save lives.

We had our first case of Covid19 the same day you did. We had 4 deaths yesterday - in the entire country. More than 95% of our cases are "closed". We have 5,000 active cases in the entire country. Our death rate per thousand is more than 1/3 less than the USA. That's the death rate that Trump touts as being "better than Europe's".

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

It's almost as if there is very little chance of Fingers getting elected and the leftists are using this crisis to keep the economy down and smear Trump.

 

[Zorro!]

A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE AGAINST THE DICTATORSHIP OF PSEUDO-SCIENCE: CDC Bails on Coronavirus Rules, Goes All In With Democrats.

Democrats have apparently started to realize that their strategy of scaring their voters into voting by mail has been backfiring spectacularly and they are making a desperate push to get more voters to the polls on election day.

The Tar Heel state has received eight times as many postal votes as it had by this point in 2016. Despite fears about first-time absentee voters botching their ballots, the share that are rejected has in fact fallen to 1.3%, from 2.6% in 2016. This is probably due in part to campaigns educating supporters on voting by mail, and also to new efforts by the state to process such ballots.

However, these gains have been concentrated among white and richer voters, causing North Carolina’s already large racial gap in rejection rates to widen. In 2016 black voters sent in 10% of postal ballots, but 18% of discarded ones. This year, those shares are 17% and 42%. That hurts Democrats, who rely on black voters’ support.

The Data Coming In Shows Vote By Mail Has Backfired On Democrats - Patriot Newsfeed