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Bigger Biden Screw Up: Border or Afghanistan?

Biggest Clusterfucl? Border of Afghanistan?

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    Votes: 3 33.3%
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Synthaholic

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Wingnut bubble. Biden’s exit from Afghanistan was a massive success.
 

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Everywhere Biden's changed Trump's policies, he' screwed up. Which was the worst clusterfuck, Afghanistan of the border?
What was Tramp's policies that were worthwhile?? None.
 

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Everywhere Biden's changed Trump's policies, he' screwed up. Which was the worst clusterfuck, Afghanistan of the border?
#IStandWithBiden



From The Atlantic

America’s longest war has been by any measure a costly failure, and the errors in managing the conflict deserve scrutiny in the years to come. But Joe Biden doesn’t “own” the mayhem on the ground right now. What we’re seeing is the culmination of 20 years of bad decisions by U.S. political and military leaders. If anything, Americans should feel proud of what the U.S. government and military have accomplished in these past two weeks. President Biden deserves credit, not blame.

Unlike his three immediate predecessors in the Oval Office, all of whom also came to see the futility of the Afghan operation, Biden alone had the political courage to fully end America’s involvement. Although Donald Trump made a plan to end the war, he set a departure date that fell after the end of his first term and created conditions that made the situation Biden inherited more precarious. And despite significant pressure and obstacles, Biden has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000.


In regard to the border, we now follow the International Rules regarding morality.
 

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Everywhere Biden's changed Trump's policies, he' screwed up. Which was the worst clusterfuck, Afghanistan of the border?
this is a tough call. I can’t say…both are total disasters and massive humanitarian and human rights crisis
 

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#IStandWithBiden



From The Atlantic

America’s longest war has been by any measure a costly failure, and the errors in managing the conflict deserve scrutiny in the years to come. But Joe Biden doesn’t “own” the mayhem on the ground right now. What we’re seeing is the culmination of 20 years of bad decisions by U.S. political and military leaders. If anything, Americans should feel proud of what the U.S. government and military have accomplished in these past two weeks. President Biden deserves credit, not blame.

Unlike his three immediate predecessors in the Oval Office, all of whom also came to see the futility of the Afghan operation, Biden alone had the political courage to fully end America’s involvement. Although Donald Trump made a plan to end the war, he set a departure date that fell after the end of his first term and created conditions that made the situation Biden inherited more precarious. And despite significant pressure and obstacles, Biden has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000.


In regard to the border, we now follow the International Rules regarding morality.
1) haha courage? what courage does it take to ignore intel, for a political stunt and surrender to terrorist?

2) what international morality are you talking about? what other country allows illegals to simply pour in their country and hand them a bus pass? let alone during a pandemic?
 

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Dude, that's like your opinion man.
nah they are

the thing about the terrorist though will likely have more global consequences…so that’s likely a bigger one
 

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Wingnut bubble. Biden’s exit from Afghanistan was a massive success.
Damn right it was a success for DemonRats. He couldn’t have done it any worse. Even got a bunch of Americans killed and a bunch left behind.

America couldn’t look any weaker or embarrassed

Probably just how he orchestrated it. And I’m being serious
 

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1) haha courage? what courage does it take to ignore intel, for a political stunt and surrender to terrorist?

2) what international morality are you talking about? what other country allows illegals to simply pour in their country and hand them a bus pass? let alone during a pandemic?
What courage does it take for a president to sign a peace agreement with them?

International protections against family separations and asylum.
 

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What courage does it take for a president to sign a peace agreement with them?

International protections against family separations and asylum.
1) a lot. It takes a lot of courage to try and work out a plan to successfully bring peace

2) can you site the “international moral” code for us? then tell me when we weren’t following it
 

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Damn right it was a success for DemonRats. He couldn’t have done it any worse. Even got a bunch of Americans killed and a bunch left behind.

America couldn’t look any weaker or embarrassed

Probably just how he orchestrated it. And I’m being serious
How about Beirut in 1983?

That was orchestrated so don rumsfeldt could kiss saddam hessein.
 

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1) a lot. It takes a lot of courage to try and work out a plan to successfully bring peace

2) can you site the “international moral” code for us? then tell me when we weren’t following it
Fail
 

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Lol. You nutcases are absolutely crazy . TDS will bring you down.
He is doing a good job at the border and an excellent job for ending the 20 year war.

If not his fault tramp made title 42 in the 2020's so people stayed in Mexico, so now they are coming here. His wall certainly didn't help anything, did it, and Mexico is not paying for the wall.
 

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sorry facts hurt

frankly i am not surprised Xidenist Cultist think peace is cowardly
What facts? The former president took Taliban promises as faith. Threatened to retaliate if they didn't (they didn't) and kicked the can past the 2020 election.


Now China has something to do with the former president immoral border policy?
 

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