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It's a fools errand to look for either truth or consistency in Democrats. Their rush in the post-Colorado shooting is to 'close loopholes' in background checks to prevent future shootings....



1. This from a former member of the Obama/Biden Administration:

"'We have to act': Biden calls on Congress to move fast on background checks, assault weapon ban after Boulder shooting

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately pass" legislation that would close loopholes in gun background checks and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in his first public remarks after a mass shooting at a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, killed 10 people.

"I don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save the lives in the future and to urge my colleagues in the House and Senate to act," Biden said Tuesday, speaking from the White House State Dining Room."




2. Of course, based on the Democrat racialism policy, the "Promise Program," they did everything possible to obviate background checks.

They claim to favor background checks so that those who are a danger, and shouldn't have guns.......don't.

Let's check.

Democrat Hussein Obama saw how many blacks and Hispanics couldn't get into college due to prison and arrest records. As a tried and true Liberal, rather than address the reasons for jail time, he simply demanded that they not be arrested...period: ignore the facts.
He threatened schools with DoJ charges of racism if they didn't comply.


“….new discipline guidelines strongly recommending that the nation's schools use law enforcement measures and out-of-school suspensions as a last resort. Announced jointly by Duncan and then-Attorney General Eric Holder, the new procedures came as more than friendly guidance from Uncle Sam – they also came with threats of federal investigations and defunding for districts that refused to fully comply.”
https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html


Even if the individual should have been arrested:
"Cruz assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other "red flags."

Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.
Cruz was never arrested. He wasn't referred to law enforcement. He wasn't even expelled."

The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline


As a result, Cruz passed a background check, got a gun, and killed 17 innocent human beings.



3. One can only wonder what the result would have been if all of the victims in Colorado had been armed, and hadn't relied on government to protect them.
 
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It's a fools errand to look for either truth or consistency in Democrats. Their rush in the post-Colorado shooting is to 'close loopholes' in background checks to prevent future shootings....



1. This from a former member of the Obama/Biden Administration:

"'We have to act': Biden calls on Congress to move fast on background checks, assault weapon ban after Boulder shooting

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately pass" legislation that would close loopholes in gun background checks and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in his first public remarks after a mass shooting at a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, killed 10 people.

"I don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save the lives in the future and to urge my colleagues in the House and Senate to act," Biden said Tuesday, speaking from the White House State Dining Room."




2. Of course, based on the Democrat racialism policy, the "Promise Program," they did everything possible to obviate background checks.

The claim to favor background checks so that those who are a danger, and shouldn't have guns.......don't.

Let's check.

Democrat Hussein Obama saw how many blacks and Hispanics couldn't get into college due to prison and arrest record. As a tried and true Liberal, rather than address the reasons for jail time, he simply demanded that they not be arrested...period.
He threatended schools with DoJ charges of racism if they didn't comply.


“….new discipline guidelines strongly recommending that the nation's schools use law enforcement measures and out-of-school suspensions as a last resort. Announced jointly by Duncan and then-Attorney General Eric Holder, the new procedures came as more than friendly guidance from Uncle Sam – they also came with threats of federal investigations and defunding for districts that refused to fully comply.” https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html


Even if the individual should have been arrested:

. "Cruz assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other "red flags."

Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.

Cruz was never arrested. He wasn't referred to law enforcement. He wasn't even expelled."

The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline


As a result, Cruz passed a background check, got a gun, and killed 17 innocent human beings.



3. One can only wonder what the result would have been if all of the victims in Colorado had been armed, and hadn't relied on government to protect them.
Someone should do a background check on your mental health. ASAP!
 
It's a fools errand to look for either truth or consistency in Democrats. Their rush in the post-Colorado shooting is to 'close loopholes' in background checks to prevent future shootings....



1. This from a former member of the Obama/Biden Administration:

"'We have to act': Biden calls on Congress to move fast on background checks, assault weapon ban after Boulder shooting

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately pass" legislation that would close loopholes in gun background checks and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in his first public remarks after a mass shooting at a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, killed 10 people.

"I don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save the lives in the future and to urge my colleagues in the House and Senate to act," Biden said Tuesday, speaking from the White House State Dining Room."




2. Of course, based on the Democrat racialism policy, the "Promise Program," they did everything possible to obviate background checks.

The claim to favor background checks so that those who are a danger, and shouldn't have guns.......don't.

Let's check.

Democrat Hussein Obama saw how many blacks and Hispanics couldn't get into college due to prison and arrest record. As a tried and true Liberal, rather than address the reasons for jail time, he simply demanded that they not be arrested...period.
He threatended schools with DoJ charges of racism if they didn't comply.


“….new discipline guidelines strongly recommending that the nation's schools use law enforcement measures and out-of-school suspensions as a last resort. Announced jointly by Duncan and then-Attorney General Eric Holder, the new procedures came as more than friendly guidance from Uncle Sam – they also came with threats of federal investigations and defunding for districts that refused to fully comply.” https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html


Even if the individual should have been arrested:

. "Cruz assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other "red flags."

Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.

Cruz was never arrested. He wasn't referred to law enforcement. He wasn't even expelled."

The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline


As a result, Cruz passed a background check, got a gun, and killed 17 innocent human beings.



3. One can only wonder what the result would have been if all of the victims in Colorado had been armed, and hadn't relied on government to protect them.
The killer managed to kill an armed cop..So, that answers your question.
 
I see that the next two postings after post one makes clear they don't give a shit about Cruz never being arrested for serious crimes, but then again they are democrats who have a remarkable inability to puzzle up a picture of what transpired.

Standard FBI Background Checks have been existing for many years now, therefore democrats current arguments are hollow and stupid.
 
One can only wonder what the result would have been if all of the victims in Colorado had been armed, and hadn't relied on government to protect them.




4. As there is no end to the sort of mayhem under Democrat gun laws, and clearly gun restrictions are based on
the hatred of normal, law-abiding citizens.....
...perhaps we should simply do the opposite or anything Democrats order.


It was tried here......and seems to work.


"Southern U.S. town proud of its mandatory gun law


KENNESAW, Georgia (Reuters) - The Virginia Tech killings have set off calls for tighter U.S. gun laws but anyone wanting to know why those demands likely will make little headway should visit Kennesaw, a town where owning a gun is both popular and mandatory.
... it passed a gun ordinance in 1982 that required all heads of a household to own a firearm and ammunition.


The Kennesaw law has endured as the town’s population has swelled to about 30,000 from 5,000 in 1982.

“When the law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime ... and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then,” said police Lt. Craig Graydon. “We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area.

Residents say they are comfortable with the image the gun law projects on the city as a bastion of gun freedom."
www.reuters.com

Southern U.S. town proud of its mandatory gun law
... killings have set off calls for tighter U.S. gun laws but anyone wanting to know why those demands likely will make little headway should visit Kennesaw, a town where owning a gun is both popular and mandatory.
www.reuters.com
www.reuters.com




The town has grown to 34,000....folks must agree with the gun law.
 
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Democrats/Liberals/Progressives toil day and night toward victory of criminals.

Everyone knows the hundreds and thousands of gun regulations are only obeyed by law abiding citizens.....and useless for the Democrat's constituents, killers and felons.



Take a look at the 'criminality' of CCW permit holders in these representative states, and any honest appraisal would indicate that any who pass the test should immediately be given permits......these folks are our best citizens.......unlike Democrats.


CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
StateYearCrimeCharged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.

 
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Democrats/Liberals/Progressives toil day and night toward victory of criminals.

Everyone knows the hundreds and thousands of gun regulations are only obeyed by law abiding citizens.....and useless for the Democrat's constituents, killers and thieves.



Take a look at the 'criminality' of CCW permit holders in these representative states, and any honest appraisal would indicate that any who pass the test should immediately be given permits......these folks are our best citizens.......unlike Democrats.


CCW Permit Holders Charged/Convicted
State
Year
Crime
Charged or
Convicted
% of Total
Convictions
Out of Total
Violent Crimes
Louisianna2016Any Felony160.0092
2015Any Felony190.012325,208
2014Any Felony150.010923,983
Michigan2016Aggravated Assault170.003
2015Aggravated Assault110.002
2016Violent Crime220.05341,231
2015Violent Crime180.0035242,348
Minnesota2015Any Assault007,094
2014Any Assault00
2013Any Assault00
2012Any Assault00
2011Any Assault00
2010Any Assault00
Oregon2016Any Felony190.0074
Oklahoma2016Any Felony200.0071
2015Any Felony160.006216,506
2014Any Felony150.0069
2013Any Felony150.0078
2012Any Felony10? Unknown due
to no permit data
Tennessee2016Any Assault0
2015Any Assault040,400
2016Any Felony290.0049
2015Any Felony310.0061
Texas2016Aggravated Assault80.00067
2015Aggravated Assault100.001167,727
The percentage of total convictions indicates how many concealed carry permit holders account for the crime compared to the general population. As an example if we look at Texas in 2015 you will see that just 0.0011 of permit holders accounted for the crime of aggravated assault.

 
Biden doesn't want to wait to save American lives!!!!!


"He called on the Senate to quickly pass two House bills, passed earlier this year and first introduced after the 2018 mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school, that extend background checks to private sellers and extend the time limit to conduct checks on purchasers.

Mr. Biden said it was wrong “to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save lives in the future.”


Have you seen the surge of immigrants at the border, due to Biden ringing the dinner bell?????

Latest statistics from the US Sentencing Commission [ Topic]

Non-Citizens Federal Crimes:

22% of Murders

18% of Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession


Get it????
Non-Citizens are FAR more likely to commit crimes that Americans are.






And these are only federal statistics.



Democrats........they lie about everything.
 
Biden doesn't want to wait to save American lives!!!!!


"He called on the Senate to quickly pass two House bills, passed earlier this year and first introduced after the 2018 mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school, that extend background checks to private sellers and extend the time limit to conduct checks on purchasers.

Mr. Biden said it was wrong “to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save lives in the future.”


Have you seen the surge of immigrants at the border, due to Biden ringing the dinner bell?????

Latest statistics from the US Sentencing Commission [ Topic]

Non-Citizens Federal Crimes:

22% of Murders

18% of Fraud

33% of Money Laundering

29% of Drug Trafficking

72% of Drug Possession


Get it????
Non-Citizens are FAR more likely to commit crimes that Americans are.






And these are only federal statistics.



Democrats........they lie about everything.
Trump losing to a guy with Alzheimer’s really set you off, didn’t it. And I’m LOVING it! :biggrin:
 
I didn’t read all your rant but I will state Background checks and banning a of weapons will not stop mass shootings because people will find a way...

A shotgun will do as much damage and carrying two in a closed area will kill enough, so let cut the nonsense and focus on the true issue and we must discuss mental illness and the culture we live in!

Before you rant I do not want one of your long lectures because I will not read it!
 
"9th Circuit rules there is NO constitutional right to open or concealed carry a firearm in public

The ridiculous 9th circuit today ruled that Hawaii has a right to deny people concealed carry licenses if they can’t prove an ‘urgency or need’ to carry a firearm:

Here’s more from DAILY CALLER:

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a Hawaii gun regulation, ruling Wednesday that states can restrict the right to openly carry a firearm in public.
The 7-4 decision said restrictions on carrying guns in public do not fall within the scope of what is protected by the Second Amendment.
“The government may regulate, and even prohibit, in public places – including government buildings, churches, schools, and markets – the open carrying of small arms capable of being concealed, whether they are carried concealed or openly,” Judge Jay Bybee wrote for the majority."




How long will we put up with the stupid and clearly failed policies that encourage these mass shootings?????

It is long past time to encourage normal Americans to carry weapons for their protection, and to imbue them with the sense that they should protect other Americans.


Imagine....if all the 9 victims has drawn licensed guns on the Syrian psychopath.


It is time to give up allowing politicians and judges to do our thinking for us.
 
I didn’t read all your rant but I will state Background checks and banning a of weapons will not stop mass shootings because people will find a way...

A shotgun will do as much damage and carrying two in a closed area will kill enough, so let cut the nonsense and focus on the true issue and we must discuss mental illness and the culture we live in!

Before you rant I do not want one of your long lectures because I will not read it!


Anyone can tell that 'reading' is something you have avoided your entire life.

I don't 'rant'....I provide insight and intelligence for those like you who so sorely require it.

My posts are linked, sourced and documented.


You are simply afraid of offending your Democrat masters.
 
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It's a fools errand to look for either truth or consistency in Democrats. Their rush in the post-Colorado shooting is to 'close loopholes' in background checks to prevent future shootings....



1. This from a former member of the Obama/Biden Administration:

"'We have to act': Biden calls on Congress to move fast on background checks, assault weapon ban after Boulder shooting

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden called on Congress to "immediately pass" legislation that would close loopholes in gun background checks and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in his first public remarks after a mass shooting at a grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, killed 10 people.

"I don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common-sense steps that will save the lives in the future and to urge my colleagues in the House and Senate to act," Biden said Tuesday, speaking from the White House State Dining Room."




2. Of course, based on the Democrat racialism policy, the "Promise Program," they did everything possible to obviate background checks.

The claim to favor background checks so that those who are a danger, and shouldn't have guns.......don't.

Let's check.

Democrat Hussein Obama saw how many blacks and Hispanics couldn't get into college due to prison and arrest record. As a tried and true Liberal, rather than address the reasons for jail time, he simply demanded that they not be arrested...period.
He threatended schools with DoJ charges of racism if they didn't comply.


“….new discipline guidelines strongly recommending that the nation's schools use law enforcement measures and out-of-school suspensions as a last resort. Announced jointly by Duncan and then-Attorney General Eric Holder, the new procedures came as more than friendly guidance from Uncle Sam – they also came with threats of federal investigations and defunding for districts that refused to fully comply.” https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html


Even if the individual should have been arrested:

. "Cruz assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other "red flags."

Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.

Cruz was never arrested. He wasn't referred to law enforcement. He wasn't even expelled."

The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline


As a result, Cruz passed a background check, got a gun, and killed 17 innocent human beings.



3. One can only wonder what the result would have been if all of the victims in Colorado had been armed, and hadn't relied on government to protect them.
The killer managed to kill an armed cop..So, that answers your question.
The federal government needs to pay men and women who marry in a traditional way a thousand times more to do that. And to give reparations for those in the past who suffered for being married.
 
" I have puzzled over the fact that the Liberals/Democrats have been wrong about just about everything...." on abortion, adultery, illegitimacy, the divorce rate, drugs, crime, a president molesting an intern and then lying to federal investigators. They stake out a clear moral position only on the issue of slavery…of course, when it mattered, they were on the wrong side of that, too."(Coulter)...


Add background checks to that list.





"Amid calls for universal background checks, little evidence they stop mass shootings
Most mass shooters legally purchase their firearms, including with background checks.

.... years of data indicating that nearly all major mass shooting events would be unaffected by such policies. "
Amid calls for universal background checks, little evidence they stop mass shootings



Clearly, Democrats not only lie about everything......


.....they are wrong about everything. Gun restriction laws make our citizens clay pigeons, and make it safe for killers.



It's time to require all reputable citizens to own guns, and carry them if they wish.


And teach gun safety in school.


It would end mass shooting.



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