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archangel
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Good for him..He threw out the "Political Correct" BS and laughs at his low rating... per polls...he has a grasp on reality..."He who laughs first-laughs last!" :funnyface
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ProudDem said:I hope he runs again and then loses. I'm glad he can never run for president.
rtwngAvngr said:Are you trying to troll?
insein said:He's very good for that state. He does what the PEOPLE want. The people vote in referendum's and he hold's the CA congress to those referendum's instead of trying to create laws that oppose the people's will.
He's a rareity in politics. A man who does what the PEOPLE want.
ProudDem said:Did he do what the people wanted by vetoing the "gay marriage" legislation? He had said that the courts could not legislate from the bench and allow gay marriage, that such should be determined by the people. So the politicians (who are elected by the people) then passed legislation to allow gay marriage. Thus, the people essentially determined that it would allow gay marriage. Ahnold wants to veto the legislation? He can't have it both ways.
rtwngAvngr said:And the people voted For arnold. SO In a way, it's the people's veto. No?
ProudDem said:You know, I had not thought of it that way. Good point. But I have a hard time thinking that he genuinely thinks that this is what the people want. Come on, he's in a hugely blue state.
rtwngAvngr said:All this gay marriage stuff is just the lefts attempt to slowly separate the notion of family with the notion of procreation. We can get into that some other time. The point here is: Democracy is working.
ProudDem said:Did he do what the people wanted by vetoing the "gay marriage" legislation? He had said that the courts could not legislate from the bench and allow gay marriage, that such should be determined by the people. So the politicians (who are elected by the people) then passed legislation to allow gay marriage. Thus, the people essentially determined that it would allow gay marriage. Ahnold wants to veto the legislation? He can't have it both ways.
Opponents deemed it an "arrogant" move in defiance of a voter-approved law limiting marriage rights to male-female couples. "Twenty-one Democrats in the Senate took it upon themselves to redefine marriage," said Benjamin Lopez, a lobbyist for the Traditional Values Coalition, "and they're saying that 4.6 million Californians are wrong."
ProudDem said:Rightwing avenger, I am married and I don't have children. My husband and I are unsure whether we will have children. Does that mean we should get a divorce if we choose not to procreate? One of the definitions of family is people living under the same household. To me, my husband and I are a family.
Honestly, I think what this whole gay marriage issue is, is the segregation issue being replayed. Human beings are equal no matter their race or sexual orientation. Why wouldn't all human beings be entitled to get married to one other person?
I just don't see how allowing gay people to marry has any effect on anyone else's marriage or family or that it somehow takes away the meaning of marriage. Marriage is about two people wanting a lifetime commitment to each other. Whatever sex or orientation these two people are should not matter.
ProudDem said:Rightwing avenger, I am married and I don't have children. My husband and I are unsure whether we will have children. Does that mean we should get a divorce if we choose not to procreate? One of the definitions of family is people living under the same household. To me, my husband and I are a family.
Honestly, I think what this whole gay marriage issue is, is the segregation issue being replayed. Human beings are equal no matter their race or sexual orientation. Why wouldn't all human beings be entitled to get married to one other person?
I just don't see how allowing gay people to marry has any effect on anyone else's marriage or family or that it somehow takes away the meaning of marriage. Marriage is about two people wanting a lifetime commitment to each other. Whatever sex or orientation these two people are should not matter.
archangel said:why all liberals focus on sexual issues and perverted issues rather than fiscal and security issues...hummm maybe a little Freudian slip in the tongue with them! :cof:
ProudDem said:Oh brother. How am I focusing on sexual issues and perverted issues?
Someone mentioned procreating, hence, my discussion of whether my husband and I would have children or not.
The issue was about gay marriage. I guess you consider that "perverted." I consider anyone who labels such behavior as "perverted" to be small-minded.
Are you accusing me of possibly being gay? Okaaaaaaaaaaaay. LOL
ProudDem said:Rightwing avenger, I am married and I don't have children. My husband and I are unsure whether we will have children. Does that mean we should get a divorce if we choose not to procreate? One of the definitions of family is people living under the same household. To me, my husband and I are a family.
archangel said:I am not accusing you of being Gay...just that all liberal issues seem to revolve around Gay Marriage and abortion...why is that?