What's new
US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Ariens Co. fires seven Muslim employees over unscheduled prayer breaks

Jackson

Gold Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2010
Messages
27,506
Reaction score
7,905
Points
290
Location
Nashville
Ariens Co. says it has fired seven Muslim employees for taking unscheduled prayer breaks, and 14 others have resigned over the issue.

More than 50 Somali immigrant Muslims at the Brillion manufacturer recently protested the company's enforcement of a policy of two 10-minute breaks per work shift — without accommodations forunscheduled prayer time.

The Muslim employees wanted the manufacturer of snowblowers and lawn mowers to continue a previous, more lenient practice of allowing them to leave their work stations at different times — such as at dawn and sunset — to pray as their faith requires of them.

Ariens said it was sticking with a policy that does not accommodate special prayer breaks, despite having bent the rules earlier.

Wednesday, Ariens said 32 of the Muslim employees have chosen to stay with the company and work within the break policy, 14 had resigned and seven were fired for taking unscheduled prayer time.

"We handled this with the same straightforward approach we use every day at Ariens Company. Recognizing there are language barriers and cultural differences, we allowed for extra time. We would have liked for more of the employees to stay, however, we respect their faith, we respect the work they have done for Ariens Company, and we respect their decisions," the company said.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based group that has been an advocate for the Muslims at Ariens, says it may file a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which enforces federal employment discrimination laws.
Ariens Co. fires seven Muslim employees

Just one word: assimilation If you are changing your home country expect there to be cultural differences.
If a western woman was going to live in a Muslim country, she would have to assimilate to their culture and never drive a car, wear a head scarf and change your way of dressing. If she couldn't handle that, don't go to a Muslim country. Vice Versa likewise.
 

amrchaos

Pentheus torn apart
Joined
Nov 1, 2008
Messages
9,498
Reaction score
933
Points
215
Location
Miami
Ariens Co. says it has fired seven Muslim employees for taking unscheduled prayer breaks, and 14 others have resigned over the issue.

More than 50 Somali immigrant Muslims at the Brillion manufacturer recently protested the company's enforcement of a policy of two 10-minute breaks per work shift — without accommodations forunscheduled prayer time.

The Muslim employees wanted the manufacturer of snowblowers and lawn mowers to continue a previous, more lenient practice of allowing them to leave their work stations at different times — such as at dawn and sunset — to pray as their faith requires of them.

Ariens said it was sticking with a policy that does not accommodate special prayer breaks, despite having bent the rules earlier.

Wednesday, Ariens said 32 of the Muslim employees have chosen to stay with the company and work within the break policy, 14 had resigned and seven were fired for taking unscheduled prayer time.

"We handled this with the same straightforward approach we use every day at Ariens Company. Recognizing there are language barriers and cultural differences, we allowed for extra time. We would have liked for more of the employees to stay, however, we respect their faith, we respect the work they have done for Ariens Company, and we respect their decisions," the company said.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based group that has been an advocate for the Muslims at Ariens, says it may file a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which enforces federal employment discrimination laws.
Ariens Co. fires seven Muslim employees

Just one word: assimilation If you are changing your home country expect there to be cultural differences.
If a western woman was going to live in a Muslim country, she would have to assimilate to their culture and never drive a car, wear a head scarf and change your way of dressing. If she couldn't handle that, don't go to a Muslim country. Vice Versa likewise.

Most Muslim nations are not like Saudi Arabia.
Try reading up on Nations like Turkey and other muslim countries just South of Russia. It is pretty interesting stuff.

The one thing I can say is that no on nation is exactly like the others. Some are very different.
 

NYcarbineer

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
117,063
Reaction score
13,864
Points
2,210
Location
Finger Lakes, NY
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
 

Claudette

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2009
Messages
42,451
Reaction score
13,186
Points
2,250
Prayer breaks?? What company lets their workers take prayer breaks??

Any Christian prayer breaks out there or is it just the Muslims??
 
OP
Jackson

Jackson

Gold Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2010
Messages
27,506
Reaction score
7,905
Points
290
Location
Nashville
Ariens Co. says it has fired seven Muslim employees for taking unscheduled prayer breaks, and 14 others have resigned over the issue.

More than 50 Somali immigrant Muslims at the Brillion manufacturer recently protested the company's enforcement of a policy of two 10-minute breaks per work shift — without accommodations forunscheduled prayer time.

The Muslim employees wanted the manufacturer of snowblowers and lawn mowers to continue a previous, more lenient practice of allowing them to leave their work stations at different times — such as at dawn and sunset — to pray as their faith requires of them.

Ariens said it was sticking with a policy that does not accommodate special prayer breaks, despite having bent the rules earlier.

Wednesday, Ariens said 32 of the Muslim employees have chosen to stay with the company and work within the break policy, 14 had resigned and seven were fired for taking unscheduled prayer time.

"We handled this with the same straightforward approach we use every day at Ariens Company. Recognizing there are language barriers and cultural differences, we allowed for extra time. We would have liked for more of the employees to stay, however, we respect their faith, we respect the work they have done for Ariens Company, and we respect their decisions," the company said.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based group that has been an advocate for the Muslims at Ariens, says it may file a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which enforces federal employment discrimination laws.
Ariens Co. fires seven Muslim employees

Just one word: assimilation If you are changing your home country expect there to be cultural differences.
If a western woman was going to live in a Muslim country, she would have to assimilate to their culture and never drive a car, wear a head scarf and change your way of dressing. If she couldn't handle that, don't go to a Muslim country. Vice Versa likewise.

Most Muslim nations are not like Saudi Arabia.
Try reading up on Nations like Turkey and other muslim countries just South of Russia. It is pretty interesting stuff.

The one thing I can say is that no on nation is exactly like the others. Some are very different.
It would be nice to go to these countries and experience them.
 

TheOldSchool

Diamond Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2012
Messages
62,631
Reaction score
10,070
Points
2,070
Location
last stop for sanity before reaching the south
Prayer breaks?? What company lets their workers take prayer breaks??

Any Christian prayer breaks out there or is it just the Muslims??

The company isn't letting them have prayer breaks.
They can speak to their magical being outside of work if they want to. Either that or take a pay cut. Whatever their employer prefers.
 

TNHarley

Diamond Member
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
73,768
Reaction score
22,321
Points
2,250
Good for that company.
I have no problem with immigration to this country. I have a problem with immigrants wanting US to assimilate. Fuck that. If you don't like western culture, don't fuckin come!
 

martybegan

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2010
Messages
57,668
Reaction score
14,073
Points
2,190
Prayer breaks?? What company lets their workers take prayer breaks??

Any Christian prayer breaks out there or is it just the Muslims??

The company isn't letting them have prayer breaks.

Actually they have their lunch breaks and two 10 minute scheduled breaks. I don't see how they couldn't fit their prayers inside of those parameters. In an 8 hour shift, if you have to pray 5 times a day, I don't see how you would need more than 2 breaks to accomplish this during work hours.

I think this is more of a company being flexible and people taking advantage of the situation than one of Religious bigotry.
 

martybegan

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2010
Messages
57,668
Reaction score
14,073
Points
2,190
Prayer breaks?? What company lets their workers take prayer breaks??

Any Christian prayer breaks out there or is it just the Muslims??

The company isn't letting them have prayer breaks.
They can speak to their magical being outside of work if they want to. Either that or take a pay cut. Whatever their employer prefers.

I would think the company would try to accommodate them, however I have a feeling the accommodation was stretched by some people, thus making the company crack down.

There are always some people out there who ruin something by taking it too far.
 

CrusaderFrank

Diamond Member
Joined
May 20, 2009
Messages
121,437
Reaction score
36,609
Points
2,290
Watch now, the company gets an IRS audit and visited by the FBI
 

Maryland Patriot

Gold Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2015
Messages
9,966
Reaction score
1,394
Points
290
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
Which company gives accommodations for Christians to stop working multiple times during the work day to pray?
 

Iceweasel

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 20, 2013
Messages
43,343
Reaction score
6,434
Points
1,870
Location
Washington State
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
What a dumb interpretation. If Christians disregarded their duties they'd be fired too. You just couldn't miss an opportunity for a political smear.
 

Iceweasel

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 20, 2013
Messages
43,343
Reaction score
6,434
Points
1,870
Location
Washington State
Prayer breaks?? What company lets their workers take prayer breaks??

Any Christian prayer breaks out there or is it just the Muslims??

The company isn't letting them have prayer breaks.
You start a company and let them have all the prayer breaks they want. Otherwise your opinion is worthless.
 

NYcarbineer

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
117,063
Reaction score
13,864
Points
2,210
Location
Finger Lakes, NY
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
Which company gives accommodations for Christians to stop working multiple times during the work day to pray?

My last employer allowed a Christian employee to rearrange his whole worknight so he could have 2 hours off on a midweek evening to go to a prayer meeting.
 

Iceweasel

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 20, 2013
Messages
43,343
Reaction score
6,434
Points
1,870
Location
Washington State
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
Which company gives accommodations for Christians to stop working multiple times during the work day to pray?

My last employer allowed a Christian employee to rearrange his whole worknight so he could have 2 hours off on a midweek evening to go to a prayer meeting.
That looks like the same thing to you?
 

martybegan

Diamond Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2010
Messages
57,668
Reaction score
14,073
Points
2,190
Interesting how RW'ers tend to react so differently to accommodations for Christians vs accommodations for Muslims.
Which company gives accommodations for Christians to stop working multiple times during the work day to pray?

My last employer allowed a Christian employee to rearrange his whole worknight so he could have 2 hours off on a midweek evening to go to a prayer meeting.

1. Did said employee leaving those two hours early stop a production line?

2. Was anyone else's work prevented due to the change in hours?

3. was the time part of a break, and thus part of the person's pay, or did the person make the time up?
 

USMB Server Goals

Total amount
$260.01
Goal
$350.00

Most reactions - Past 7 days

Forum List

Top