Are you buying into inferior products?

[RodISHI]

I asked Rod to save this video for me a few days ago because it fits into so many things. It is a reminder of what happens when cheap quantity is more valued than real quality. Many churches went for quantity verses quality and I see basically the same thing happening in the spirits of those who went for the cheaper version of faith as is what is going on with China's cheap steel. The cheap steel vehicles start rusting out the moment they go on the road. In a few years the whole machine breaks down into a pile of useless metal rust. The formerly well made vehicles made with good steel from 50 and 60 years ago have a little rust but they are not fully rusted into a worthless heap.

Our spirits are pretty much the same way. If we grow in faith called by the holy spirit and God builds the foundations of our faith by and through his spirit that faith is long lasting and will hold firm through the years sustaining life even if the flesh gets a little worn. If one depends on the quantity version promoted by human precepts that faith is easily shaken and it becomes a basically worthless heap that trust in things that cannot sustain true life.

 

[Marion Morrison]

That's one reason Chinese would have a hard time with war. They'd go to shoot and their guns and weapons would blow up in their face because of the crap metal.

 

[Propofol]

That's one reason Chinese would have a hard time with war. They'd go to shoot and their guns and weapons would blow up in their face because of the crap metal.

FALSE
Many AR barrels and AR parts as well as complete guns are manufactured in China and sold under various different brands in the USA. None of them "blow up". The fit and finish isn't as great as some other brands, but other than that, they perform with relatively few problems.

For example Stevens Arms imports some models from China and is sold in the US Market.

 

[Marion Morrison]

That's one reason Chinese would have a hard time with war. They'd go to shoot and their guns and weapons would blow up in their face because of the crap metal.

FALSE
Many AR barrels and AR parts as well as complete guns are manufactured in China and sold under various different brands in the USA. None of them "blow up". The fit and finish isn't as great as some other brands, but other than that, they perform with relatively few problems.

For example Stevens Arms imports some models from China and is sold in the US Market.

Yeah, I wouldn't buy that brand. DPMS.
I don't buy Chinese tools or weapons. Well..not for actual tool stuff.
One just doesn't take a Chinese socket to a '72 Ford transmission bolt.
Not without losing a chunk of knuckle and having to go find a German/American/Canadian socket to get the job done after the China crap blows out.

 

[Picaro]

Lot to be said for 'small'; the original chruches were meetings in peoples' homes, but as the number of congregations grew it became harder and harder for the better teachers and preachers to get around to them all, plus the financial burdens of the social services necessary for Christian churches got heavier and heavier as well, and they were violently tossed out of increasing numbers of synagogues and forced to form their own communities and organizations. Even Jesus spoke to the large crowds in urban areas. Don't think there is some magical 'perfect size' for a church, managerial skills would determine natural limits and capabilities. Large is not always bad. Many of the larger ministries fund and provide aid to numerous small churches besides their own networks.

Lots of different needs out there, so there are lots of different ministries to cover the needs as well. Some people's need 'simple', others need a hard line, still others just need a positive message to face the coming week and the typical horrors of everyday life around the world and avoid Prozac or heroin addiction.

 

[RodISHI]

That's one reason Chinese would have a hard time with war. They'd go to shoot and their guns and weapons would blow up in their face because of the crap metal.

I would definitely be leery on wanting any of their weapons made with their steel.

 

[RodISHI]

Lot to be said for 'small'; the original chruches were meetings in peoples' homes, but as the number of congregations grew it became harder and harder for the better teachers and preachers to get around to them all, plus the financial burdens of the social services necessary for Christian churches got heavier and heavier as well, and they were violently tossed out of increasing numbers of synagogues and forced to form their own communities and organizations. Even Jesus spoke to the large crowds in urban areas. Don't think there is some magical 'perfect size' for a church, managerial skills would determine natural limits and capabilities. Large is not always bad. Many of the larger ministries fund and provide aid to numerous small churches besides their own networks.

Lots of different needs out there, so there are lots of different ministries to cover the needs as well. Some people's need 'simple', others need a hard line, still others just need a positive message to face the coming week and the typical horrors of everyday life around the world and avoid Prozac or heroin addiction.

I've noticed a lot of people of various churches just turned into cliques and if you ain't in their in group you are an outcast. I do agree there are a lot of different needs out there but the spirit doesn't require a church setting to use one person to minister to another in need.

 

[Likkmee]

I only buy the best....that's why I don't have a lot of stuff. Most of what I do have I built with the best materials I could get locally with US tools 20-50 plus years old.Electronics shit I try to buy Japanese and Korean,occasionally Taiwan.Too bad the empire only makes military gear and porn

 

[Picaro]

I still have all the tools I've been buying since I was a kid; not Snap On quality but all still usable, from back when Sears and other brands still made quality stuff. The modern stuff I don't care for; I splurged on a DeWalt drill a while back, but they quit making the batteries for it, and it still in almost brand new condition. Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

 

[BreezeWood]

I still have all the tools I've been buying since I was a kid; not Snap On quality but all still usable, from back when Sears and other brands still made quality stuff. The modern stuff I don't care for; I splurged on a DeWalt drill a while back, but they quit making the batteries for it, and it still in almost brand new condition. Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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professionals by and large use the "battery operated scams" - the top quality cordless brands wherever possible in most cases bought at specialty retailers, anywhere but from lows or home dpt. - excluding heavy, stationary equipment.

 

[Picaro]

I still have all the tools I've been buying since I was a kid; not Snap On quality but all still usable, from back when Sears and other brands still made quality stuff. The modern stuff I don't care for; I splurged on a DeWalt drill a while back, but they quit making the batteries for it, and it still in almost brand new condition. Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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professionals by and large use the "battery operated scams" - the top quality cordless brands wherever possible in most cases bought at specialty retailers, anywhere but from lows or home dpt. - excluding heavy, stationary equipment.

Actually 'professionals' flood Home Depot, Lowe's, Northern Tool, and Walmart's every day. Corded tools are becoming an extinct choice. Why sell a drill for $45, when you can sell a drill for $50 PLUS a battery pack for $65-$85?

Contractors hire as much illegal labor as then can; most don't give a crap about quality workmanship, hence they don't care about tool quality any more, most are little more than criminals themselves. That's why there was the boom in 'do it yourself' in the first place.

 

[BreezeWood]

I still have all the tools I've been buying since I was a kid; not Snap On quality but all still usable, from back when Sears and other brands still made quality stuff. The modern stuff I don't care for; I splurged on a DeWalt drill a while back, but they quit making the batteries for it, and it still in almost brand new condition. Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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professionals by and large use the "battery operated scams" - the top quality cordless brands wherever possible in most cases bought at specialty retailers, anywhere but from lows or home dpt. - excluding heavy, stationary equipment.

Actually 'professionals' flood Home Depot, Lowe's, Northern Tool, and Walmart's every day. Corded tools are becoming an extinct choice. Why sell a drill for $45, when you can sell a drill for $50 PLUS a battery pack for $65-$85?

Contractors hire as much illegal labor as then can; most don't give a crap about quality workmanship, hence they don't care about tool quality any more, most are little more than criminals themselves. That's why there was the boom in 'do it yourself' in the first place.

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Contractors hire as much illegal labor as then can; most don't give a crap about quality workmanship, hence they don't care about tool quality any more, most are little more than criminals themselves. That's why there was the boom in 'do it yourself' in the first place.

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picaro, were you born in an oxygen free environment, sometimes that seems the only logical answer for some of your responses ...

as you claim not to be a christian some good does seem to have made an impression on you - hopefully, someday you can work to improve your standing to becoming a minimal human being if for no other reason than the welfare of those present around you.

 

[ding]

I still have all the tools I've been buying since I was a kid; not Snap On quality but all still usable, from back when Sears and other brands still made quality stuff. The modern stuff I don't care for; I splurged on a DeWalt drill a while back, but they quit making the batteries for it, and it still in almost brand new condition. Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

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Screw that, I'm only going to buy the corded power tools from now on., not battery operated scams.

.
professionals by and large use the "battery operated scams" - the top quality cordless brands wherever possible in most cases bought at specialty retailers, anywhere but from lows or home dpt. - excluding heavy, stationary equipment.

Actually 'professionals' flood Home Depot, Lowe's, Northern Tool, and Walmart's every day. Corded tools are becoming an extinct choice. Why sell a drill for $45, when you can sell a drill for $50 PLUS a battery pack for $65-$85?

Contractors hire as much illegal labor as then can; most don't give a crap about quality workmanship, hence they don't care about tool quality any more, most are little more than criminals themselves. That's why there was the boom in 'do it yourself' in the first place.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that quality has gone down in most things.

 

[BreezeWood]

the quality is there you have to be willing to pay for it - bought a washing machine at a dealership the model was not available at either lows or home dept, $200.00 over their best machines. 5 year full replacement warranty.

 

[Picaro]

I've had good luck with some, the LG brand products, but that's only because of having to buy stuff the U.S. no longer makes at all, and Korean quality control is as good as anybody's. Don't buy big ticket items often, as we take good care of anything we buy; our average car last some 23 years, until parts are hard to find, before we get new ones, except for working vehicles like trucks and tractors. We spend a lot on maintenance, but it's well worth the money on good stuff.

 

[Picaro]

Lot to be said for 'small'; the original chruches were meetings in peoples' homes, but as the number of congregations grew it became harder and harder for the better teachers and preachers to get around to them all, plus the financial burdens of the social services necessary for Christian churches got heavier and heavier as well, and they were violently tossed out of increasing numbers of synagogues and forced to form their own communities and organizations. Even Jesus spoke to the large crowds in urban areas. Don't think there is some magical 'perfect size' for a church, managerial skills would determine natural limits and capabilities. Large is not always bad. Many of the larger ministries fund and provide aid to numerous small churches besides their own networks.

Lots of different needs out there, so there are lots of different ministries to cover the needs as well. Some people's need 'simple', others need a hard line, still others just need a positive message to face the coming week and the typical horrors of everyday life around the world and avoid Prozac or heroin addiction.

I've noticed a lot of people of various churches just turned into cliques and if you ain't in their in group you are an outcast. I do agree there are a lot of different needs out there but the spirit doesn't require a church setting to use one person to minister to another in need.

I've found that to be true in nearly every grouping of humans, so I don't how one gets away from it easily; it shouldn't deter the believers from participating in activities and works, nor does it say anywhere you can't be a member of more than one congregation, either.