Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

[enamdar]

Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?
Of course any complaints that girls go for bad boys and jerks instantly labels one a nice guy beta males. To the extent that it is possible, I actually consider myself somewhat of an impartial outside observer. I was an omega jerk in JR and high school, and to an extent my whole psycho personality, worked and I had girls literally chasing me. A lot of it might have been self-delusion but some measures were objective. After that I was in nearly complete isolation in college. So I've never played the role of the bitter nice guy. I have NEVER done anything nice for a girl or anyone my entire life! So I think I have some claim to impartiality, and my position that my deep depression and heart anguish is purely on a metaphysical level.

I read a lot of PUA seduction Game literature. At first my logic was it pays to learn all tools of rhetoric, persuasion and oratory even if I intended to put it to different uses than PUA.

Anyway to put it at its simplest. In cavemen times women were just plaything rape slaves for the strongest ape. And that is what evolutionary psychology in chimpanzee and gorilla behavior proves. Now there might have been some brave women who defended their freedom to the death, but their selfish genes were lost to history. And the genes that all modern women have inherited is those who submit to the cruelest caveman with biggest club.

I don't know for me it is pretty hellish to live in a world where all men are sadists and all women are masochists.

According to PUA science male physical attractiveness barely matters at all, the only thing women find attractive is brute domination and sadism.

For the last year I've completely cut myself off from humanity. Who wants to live in a world of pure evil? Only evil is rewarded! Cruelty is the only virtue. What good is morality and ethics?

So I'd like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

Does the dating world going back to the new paleolithic age make life worthless?
Murdoch's theoretical journal which is the official ideology of America and thus the entire world has endorsed the evopsych worldview: The New Dating Game | The Weekly Standard

Now I'm sure no one will believe me, but this is NOT about me being a single virgin loser guy who can't get a date. More its about what kind of world we live in where evil is always rewarded. I can't live in a universe like that. Why bother to get a job and support oneself and live in brutal ruthless dog eat dog world of evil? My parents are going to throw me out in August since I wont get a job or school.

Its true I've always been kind of an anti-sexual puritan but evopsych just makes it more vicious.

I feel nothing for disgust for humanity. But thats what the Darwinian struggle for existence. Brutality is the only virtue. I'm what the Nazis would call life unworthy of life. Even if your content to be a lifelong virgin girls rewarding "bad boy" traits still affects the world you live in. I could not be more repulsed by humanity which is why I have cut myself off in complete isolation for nearly a year now.

I don't understand how the rest of humanity can endure such a world and assume its because they must ALL be blood-thirsty vampires themselves.

Although why glorify women as the victims? According to evopsych even when given freedom they will reward cruelty.

So there are no victims in this monstrous world just wolves eating wolves.

How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?

The Darwinian-Nietzschean struggle for existence means eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, harm or be harmed. I wish simply to neither dominate nor be dominated. But that is far too much to ask in this world on both counts.

Well in essence this IS about relationships. That is where evolutionary psychology is most obvious in daily life. While it is true I have no human relations, I'm still affected by the sexual stock market, the same way someone who owns no stock can be ruined by a crash.

Psychologists are humans like the rest of us, driven by the reptilian urges for sex and power and domination. There career choice is just there way of gaining domination in the Darwinian game. So I don't see therapists as some elite priestly caste free from evopsych. I don't want to be "fixed" into better being able to play the evolutionary game.

Since everyone here accepts the basic premises of evopsych, I ask how do YOU folks deal with it? Or do you all just accept the game, and try to be the winner? IF thats the case, then maybe your right and there can not be any dialogue between me and humanity.

I have not harmed anyone, except maybe my parents. My dad says I should be "altrusitic" and recover for my mom's sake.

First off my parents committed a massive injustice on me by bringing me into this cruel world just to satisfy that monster gene- Moloch.

Second them keeping me alive, is just their genes following their selfish interest to reproduce. I represent a major investment in their genes survival. My fall means a major decrease in their genese reproducing. So that is all there is to their so-called generosity to me. The longer they keep me fed, the longer the opportunity there is for me to pass their genes on. Granted thats a pretty miniscule chance for grandkids hiding and crying in the basement, but its higher than the chances if I starved on the street.

So what gratitude should I have to the selfish gene? The "altruism" in feeding and housing me is just the flip side of the selfishness of birthing me into an incredibly hellish universe.

Humanity wants to drive itself off a cliff. I listed my objections. Much wiser men than me have listed them in thick textbooks. Humanity wont listen to the wise men and certainly not to me. So fine. I have said my peace. Let humanity drive off the cliff, but I want no part in the adventure.

What good would having a girlfriend do me? Is the chimpanzee in me supposed to rejoice that as low as I may be in the hierarchy, I still have someone below me who I can hurt, torment, dominate and abuse?


I have no problem being driven out of the sexual marketplace. The problem is what "service" are we competing for? And it seems in the sexual market it is who can be the most brutal and cruel. Evopsych says getting a girlfriend comes down to demonstrating cruelty, domination, brutality, and sadism.


That is all I see in male-female relations and PUa science backs up my personal observations.

 

[strollingbones]

so ya wanna be a male sub?

i read all that bullmal....

 

[California Girl]

so ya wanna be a male sub?

i read all that bullmal....

I know how you feel. I read about half of it before I realized that I was in danger of actually being bored to death. Dangerous!! Fortunately, I stopped reading immediately and thus, I saved my life!

 

[strollingbones]

i hate neglected subs..this is what happens to them...they become 'thinkers' lol

a neglected sub is a confused sub

 

[Lumpy 1]

Well .. I read the first paragraph ... felt sickly and scrolled down to check the commitment, I remain non committal but my stomach is feeling better..

( I recommend to the OP, shorten it up, people like to rip flesh from the bone in short order. If they have to wait to long they would rather just squish your head..)

 

[editec]

Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

No.

Of course any complaints that girls go for bad boys and jerks instantly labels one a nice guy beta males.

Nonsense

To the extent that it is possible, I actually consider myself somewhat of an impartial outside observer.

That is probably obviously untrue to everybody but yourself.

I was an omega jerk in JR and high school, and to an extent my whole psycho personality, worked and I had girls literally chasing me. A lot of it might have been self-delusion but some measures were objective.

Sure you did.

After that I was in nearly complete isolation in college.

Playing armchiar psychiatrist, I'd venture that that's aboyut when your depression (the depression you are probably still dealing with) started manifesting.

So I've never played the role of the bitter nice guy. I have NEVER done anything nice for a girl or anyone my entire life! So I think I have some claim to impartiality, and my position that my deep depression and heart anguish is purely on a metaphysical level.

Solopsism is lonely work, but somebody's got to do it, I guess.

I read a lot of PUA seduction Game literature. At first my logic was it pays to learn all tools of rhetoric, persuasion and oratory even if I intended to put it to different uses than PUA.

Yea....well you see the thing is that the games people play might lead to a winning round for the pricks, but in the long run the pricks end up alone.

Anyway to put it at its simplest. In cavemen times women were just plaything rape slaves for the strongest ape.

Total nonsense, of course.

And that is what evolutionary psychology in chimpanzee and gorilla behavior proves.

You obviously have never read anything about great ape or monkey behavior.

You imagine that simian breeding is all about the strongest getting all the sex, but that is simply untrue.

Now there might have been some brave women who defended their freedom to the death, but their selfish genes were lost to history. And the genes that all modern women have inherited is those who submit to the cruelest caveman with biggest club.

What an amazing reationization for your obvious mysogeny. You have my deepest sympathy.

I don't know for me it is pretty hellish to live in a world where all men are sadists and all women are masochists.

Gets lonely in that sexual identity closet you're hiding from yourself in, I'll wager.

According to PUA science male physical attractiveness barely matters at all, the only thing women find attractive is brute domination and sadism.

PUS scientists obviously never get laid.

For the last year I've completely cut myself off from humanity. Who wants to live in a world of pure evil? Only evil is rewarded! Cruelty is the only virtue. What good is morality and ethics?

Seek help, amigo.

So I'd like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

No.

Does the dating world going back to the new paleolithic age make life worthless?

No

Murdoch's theoretical journal which is the official ideology of America and thus the entire world has endorsed the evopsych worldview: The New Dating Game | The Weekly Standard

Oh, thank GOD! I thought you were describing your own private Idaho, enamdar. I thought you were the author of this childish woman hating bullshit.

Now I'm sure no one will believe me, but this is NOT about me being a single virgin loser guy who can't get a date.

It never occured to me you were a virgin.

More its about what kind of world we live in where evil is always rewarded. I can't live in a universe like that. Why bother to get a job and support oneself and live in brutal ruthless dog eat dog world of evil? My parents are going to throw me out in August since I wont get a job or school.

Your parents ought to get you some psychiatirc help, amigo. You are obviously suffering from a serious case of clinical depression (or something)

Its true I've always been kind of an anti-sexual puritan but evopsych just makes it more vicious.

Not everybody is driven by sex. That's not unnormal.

What is pathological, is trying to fault the rest of the world for not being like that...which IS what you appear to be doing.

I feel nothing for disgust for humanity. But thats what the Darwinian struggle for existence. Brutality is the only virtue. I'm what the Nazis would call life unworthy of life. Even if your content to be a lifelong virgin girls rewarding "bad boy" traits still affects the world you live in. I could not be more repulsed by humanity which is why I have cut myself off in complete isolation for nearly a year now.

WEll, you're not cutting yourself off from this communication so you obviously sense that something is wrong.

SEriously, seek help. There IS help for you, you know?

I don't understand how the rest of humanity can endure such a world and assume its because they must ALL be blood-thirsty vampires themselves.

Your delusional world POV is preventing you from even framing a question that isn't telegraphing to the rest of us, how very ill you are, my friend.

Although why glorify women as the victims? According to evopsych even when given freedom they will reward cruelty.

I have no idea what thios evopsych is, but it obviously a fools science.

So there are no victims in this monstrous world just wolves eating wolves.

Poppycock.

How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?

Seek serious professional psychiatric help.

The Darwinian-Nietzschean struggle for existence means eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, harm or be harmed. I wish simply to neither dominate nor be dominated. But that is far too much to ask in this world on both counts.

Nietzsche was also terribly sick man. A brilliant man, to be sure, but one whose enormous intelligence was mostly employed to rationalize his own distorted POV.

Having been moestly brilliant, and ALSO modestly sick, about the issue of how intelligence can become a tool one uses to defend one's sickness, is something I understand ALL TOO well.

Seriously, lad, seek help.

I say this to you with sincere EMPATHY.

I have through something similar. Mine was a differently distorted POV of course, but one equally steeped in bullshit as yours obviously is.

Well in essence this IS about relationships. That is where evolutionary psychology is most obvious in daily life. While it is true I have no human relations, I'm still affected by the sexual stock market, the same way someone who owns no stock can be ruined by a crash.

It can get better. I promise it can.

Psychologists are humans like the rest of us, driven by the reptilian urges for sex and power and domination. There career choice is just there way of gaining domination in the Darwinian game. So I don't see therapists as some elite priestly caste free from evopsych. I don't want to be "fixed" into better being able to play the evolutionary game.

Then why are you here rationaizing your illness to us?

YOu obviously sense that you are in trouble, but you cannot bring yourself to admit it.

This is the NATURE of the mental illness you have.

Since everyone here accepts the basic premises of evopsych, I ask how do YOU folks deal with it? Or do you all just accept the game, and try to be the winner? IF thats the case, then maybe your right and there can not be any dialogue between me and humanity.

EVolutionary psychology sounds like purse bullshit to me.

I have not harmed anyone, except maybe my parents. My dad says I should be "altrusitic" and recover for my mom's sake.

And his...and YOURS, too. Your parents love you and your distress must be a horror for them.

First off my parents committed a massive injustice on me by bringing me into this cruel world just to satisfy that monster gene- Moloch.

You poor thing. Your poor parents, too.

Seek help, lad, if you can.

You need it, really badly if what you've written truly reprents your POV.

 

[strollingbones]

damn ed really read it all...good call ed....