Are there ANY Trump supporters here who have had enough? ANYONE?

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???


Are you still being this stupid....?

You really think that there is anyone who supports Trump who wouldn't vote for him after everything he accomplished before joe biden's Chinese masters let the Chinese flu out of the lab?

He has been one of the best Presidents in modern history, and with a 2nd Term, he will get the economy back on track, instead of putting us into a Great Depression that China pet joe biden will do if he gets in.

The anti-Trumpers in Washington are vile creatures, who need to be stopped......
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?


How many fake ballots will the democrat party turn in with their mail in ballot fraud?
 
Nice idea, Natural Citizen, but I’m not the person to lead on this. I don’t know nearly enough. In the past (and just now thanks to you) I took a quick look at Rand’s proposals, as I have Elizabeth Warren’s and others. I appreciate Rand’s emphasis on trying to simplify the tax code, but it seems to me his is not at all a “fair” or entirely workable solution. Warren’s certainly adds complexity, which is bad, but at least is aimed at restructuring incentives and redistributing wealth, and takes a shot at international tax havens. It is clear there are simply not now significant institutional forces, popular sentiment, or even professional expertise to design a new (fairer, simpler) tax system. So we would just be talking through our hats, I’m afraid.

My expectation is that the drift toward financial oligarchy will continue. Populist demagoguery may even succeed in ramming through a more oppressive political Ha. system to go along with it. Domestic taxation is in any case today mostly just the “gilding on the (black) lily” of state capitalism, in a world of increasing inter-imperialist conflict and fiat money.

I was just screwin around anyway, besides I probably woulda turned heel on you and hit you with some sweet chin music after we toss the other two over the rope. My ''Exploitativeness'' score tured out to be a 4/5, on the Narcissistic Personality Test, gawdam. Apparently this trait refers to how willing you are to exploit others in order to meet your own needs or goals? Pfft. I scored particularly high in exploitativeness, suggesting I don't mind exploiting others in order to meet my own needs or goals. Hahaha, no I'm just trollin. But, no, yeah, I did get that, though, so, hm.

Seriously, though, dialogue needs improvement. I'd rather see a scenario where say...oh..lets say Bernie Sanders debates Ron Paul for the title. Right? Nobody else at that level of politics will ever talk about the screw job on the American electorate the way those two would. Hey, they voted together quite a bit, maybe for different reasons, but they both voted Nay on a lot of really bad legislation. In a Biden/Trump/Wallace skit, they'd never talk anbout anything Ron or Bernie would talk about. Doesn't matter if they agreed on a solution or not, so long as they're at least agreeing that certain problems exist.
 
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The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???


Are you still being this stupid....?

You really think that there is anyone who supports Trump who wouldn't vote for him after everything he accomplished before joe biden's Chinese masters let the Chinese flu out of the lab?

He has been one of the best Presidents in modern history, and with a 2nd Term, he will get the economy back on track, instead of putting us into a Great Depression that China pet joe biden will do if he gets in.

The anti-Trumpers in Washington are vile creatures, who need to be stopped......
Sure, dittos Rush.
 
Nice idea, Natural Citizen, but I’m not the person to lead on this. I don’t know nearly enough. In the past (and just now thanks to you) I took a quick look at Rand’s proposals, as I have Elizabeth Warren’s and others. I appreciate Rand’s emphasis on trying to simplify the tax code, but it seems to me his is not at all a “fair” or entirely workable solution. Warren’s certainly adds complexity, which is bad, but at least is aimed at restructuring incentives and redistributing wealth, and takes a shot at international tax havens. It is clear there are simply not now significant institutional forces, popular sentiment, or even professional expertise to design a new (fairer, simpler) tax system. So we would just be talking through our hats, I’m afraid.

My expectation is that the drift toward financial oligarchy will continue. Populist demagoguery may even succeed in ramming through a more oppressive political Ha. system to go along with it. Domestic taxation is in any case today mostly just the “gilding on the (black) lily” of state capitalism, in a world of increasing inter-imperialist conflict and fiat money.

I was just screwin around anyway, besides I probably woulda turned heel on you and hit you with some sweet chin music after we toss the other two over the rope. My ''Exploitativeness'' score tured out to be a 4/5, gawdam.

This trait refers to how willing you are to exploit others in order to meet your own needs or goals. I scored particularly high in exploitativeness, suggesting I don't mind exploiting others in order to meet my own needs or goals. Hahaha, no I'm just trollin. But, no, yeah, I did get that, though, so, hm.

Seriously, though, dialogue needs improvement. I'd rather see a scenario where say...oh..lets say Bernie Sanders debates Ron Paul for the title. Right? Nobody else at that level of politics will ever talk about the screw job on the American electorate the way those two would. Hey, they voted together quite a bit, maybe for different reasons, but they both voted Nay on a lot of really bad legislation. In a Biden/Trump/Wallace skit, they'd never talk anbout anything Ron or Bernie would talk about. Doesn't matter if they agreed on a solution or not, so long as they're at least agreeing that certain problems exist..
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Bernie Sanders is the leader of the screw job........
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who have had enough?
Enough? Enough what? Enough record unemployment? Enough record unemployment for minorities? Enough Record stock market highs which increase the value of everyday working people's 401k's and 403b's? Enough record financial support for Black Colleges.Enough prison reform giving freedom to individuals serving unreasonably long prison sentences, the majority of whom are minorities. Enough of not being dragged into endless wars? Enough funding of our military so America can lead from a position of strength? Enough of making foreign nations pay their fair share to NATO relieving regular Americans of the tax burden needed in the past to pay it for them? Enough of controlling our border and keeping out ILLEGAL aliens, making it possible for LEGAL immigration to continue for those entering the LAWFUL way? Enough decisive action, putting in place a travel ban from China and Europe that according to the W.H.O. slowed the spread by 2-3 weeks undoubtedly saving 10's if not 100's of thousands of lives?
I could go on.....but I think you get the point. No. Bring it on. Give me more...much more from this President who has done more to Make America Great Again than ALL the Democrat Presidents COMBINED for the past 50 years.

You can let your TDS cloud what little objective reasoning you have. Sensible, intelligent Americans can see very clearly that President Donald J Trump, ( Yes he is President and you should probably get over it already) he is on Americas side and that's good for them.

My question to you is....Besides your utter disdain for him as an individual, what has he done that is SO horrible for America as President that keeps you from supporting our President instead of tearing him down at Americas expense?
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Okay, another "no", got it!
I think you're seeing what a stupid thread that was started.
You can't even put up a viable debate on the discussion.
I asked a clear and direct question. You guys are doing a great job of answering it for me, in your own way.

The thread doesn't require your approval. If you don't like it, tough shit.

"I asked a clear and direct question. You guys are doing a great job of answering it for me, in your own way."

So why can't YOU be an adult and grow a set of cojones and answer my clear and direct question to YOU?
That question being... Besides your utter disdain for him as an individual, what has he done that is SO horrible for America as President that keeps you from supporting our President instead of tearing him down at Americas expense?
The lack of an answer tells me you have NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING you can sight that would answer that question without making you look like a stark raving TDS afflicted petulant child.
You really need to calm down.

First, I disagree with him on a majority of the issues. That's enough, all on its own.

Does that make any sense to someone like you, at all?

The fact that he is a national embarrassment, a buffoon, a con man, and a clear and present danger only makes it more vivid.

So I guess you're just wrong. Sorry.
"....I disagree with him on a majority of the issues." Really? Name them. "....he is a national embarrassment, a buffoon, a con man, and a clear and present danger .... Personal attacks having NOTHING to do with his results as President.

All lip service and personal attacks. You perpetuate the stereotype of the Left quite well. Not ONE SPECIFIC item about his actions AS PRESIDENT can you seem to sight. I, and many others here, are STILL waiting for you to actually come up with something of substance to validate your position. We will continue to wait, but expect NOTHING because you have NOTHING.
Happy to.

Please click on the link at the end of the second line of my sig. There you will be able to see my positions on the issues, and it will suddenly occur to you that I meant what I said about disagreeing with Trump on a majority of the issues.

And there are many people, including many Republicans, who agree with my opinions on his behavior and temperaments. The fact that we disagree with you doesn't mean that there's something wrong with us.

There. I have addressed your concerns. And I know they won't matter, because I know what you are.

OK...... I clicked on the link....read your positions, and I actually agree with you 100% on the solution to Health Care " Expand the Medicare/Medicare Supplement/Medicare Advantage system to all " I am a Financial Professional myself and have been touting this as the Health Care solution since the being rumblings of Obamacare.

As for "There. I have addressed your concerns. " Uh....NO....You didn't. It was a very concise dissertation on YOUR positions on many things, but it DID NOT address any of the specific action/in-actions of Donald J Trump as President that would make you not support him as our President.
I assumed you'd be able to read my positions, and compare them yourself to his positions.

I assumed that, when you did that, you'd be able to identify clear differences on a majority of issue positions.

Was I wrong? Are are you going to continue to claim that I "have nothing"?

And I haven't even MENTIONED his constant, absurd, childish, embarrassing behaviors.

Are you embarrassed or ashamed of you positions? Why can't you post them here for all interested parties to see when asked rather than squirrel them away in the signature of your profile?

"Are are you going to continue to claim that I "have nothing"?" Yes...Yes I am. Because the question wasn't how do your positions or beliefs differ from President Trump's positions or beliefs on certain key topics that would keep you from supporting him. The question I asked you, and you REFUSE to answer, was ; "Besides your utter disdain for him as an individual, what has he done that is SO horrible for America as President that keeps you from supporting our President instead of tearing him down at Americas expense?" Now...do you care to answer the question as asked or are you going to continue to artfully dodge the question like a seasoned politician?

"And I haven't even MENTIONED his constant, absurd, childish, embarrassing behaviors." And there you go. That statement clearly exposes your, as I claimed, disdain for him as a person, afflicting you with TDS and clouding your ability to see the good that Donald J Trump has done as President for America and the American people. OK, granted, he is not your typical two faced, false facade, stuffed shirt politician. We elected a President to protect and serve America, not a publicist to enhance Americas persona.
I've provided my positions on the issues. Clearly and specifically.

Your approval is not required.

So you have NOTHING then. As expected.

Ignorance ignores, knowledge acknowledges©. You have chosen the path of Ignorance.
 
My expectation is that the drift toward financial oligarchy will continue. Populist demagoguery may even succeed in ramming through a more oppressive political system to go along with it. Domestic taxation is in any case today mostly just the “gilding on the (black) lily” of state capitalism, in a world of increasing inter-imperialist conflict and fiat money.

Oh, sorry, forgot to acknowledge that last bit there.

Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. But where you call em State capitalists, I just call em Keyensians. Same thing, technically. Open Market Operations, as they call it, is how they're boinking us, Tom.
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???
No I want more Trump winning. He was wrong about that because none of us tire of winning and kicking your stupid asses.
 
I agree with you, Natural Citizen , on how Keynesianism has been used (I would say abused). But we should remember Keynes died some 75 years ago, and even then had excellent proposals for international trade and foreign exchange operations/organization that were never adopted. In my opinion we desperately need modern far-sighted economic and political statesmen of his character, instead of our present crop of short-term profit-crazy “political economists.”
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???
Which has what to do with a booming economy even during a plague?
 
I agree with you, Natural Citizen , on how Keynesianism has been used (I would say abused). But we should remember Keynes died some 75 years ago, and even then had excellent proposals for international trade and foreign exchange operations/organization that were never adopted. In my opinion we desperately need modern far-sighted economic and political statesmen of his character, instead of our present crop of short-term profit-crazy “political economists.”

Yeah. It's actually the followers of Keynes who have taken us so far down the dark hole. As you say, Keynes himself wasn't completely disgreeable.
 
Do I think there are Republicans who might've done a better job as President? Yeah, probably.

But Trump is the President and, when compared to his opponent, he's the obvious choice. He's brash, he's rude, he's uncouth and sometimes mean. But he's done what very few Presidents have done: He's kept his word. He said he was going to build a wall, and it's getting built, He said he would bring back manufacturing jobs and manufacturing jobs came back. He said he would lower unemployment and he did, and I also believe he will again.

My opinion of Trump's opponent is not based on his politics, which I both agree and disagree with, but with the man himself. I do not believe he's either physically or mentally fit to be the leader of the free world...
 
Which has what to do with a booming economy even during a plague?
You mistake your own swollen stock portfolio for a “booming economy,” something rich people do all the time.
I'm basing my statement on 3 poor areas in the Town of Hempstead, NY...
Hempstead
Uniondale
Roosevelt

And...my son-in-law does Commercial Real Estate all over the US and poor areas have tons of money being pumped into their business areas.

Now tell me about all the national commercial real estate people you know.
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?
Why didn't you mention his narrow losses in Minny, Nevada and NH? Doesn't fit your narrative?

They are called swing states for a reason. I think he would have been in trouble until the "peaceful protests"...now I think he wins.

Because those 3 states flipped blue to red in 2016 and was the difference in electoral votes.
You do know that you are the dictators. It is quite apparent now. You have no answers. Just more questions using a reducing finite amount of resources available to fix each one with questionable results.

Again, what in holy hell are you talking about?
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?
Why didn't you mention his narrow losses in Minny, Nevada and NH? Doesn't fit your narrative?

They are called swing states for a reason. I think he would have been in trouble until the "peaceful protests"...now I think he wins.

Because those 3 states flipped blue to red in 2016 and was the difference in electoral votes.
But he lost close states too that he may win this time around? Doesn’t fit your narrative it seems

And he won close states he may lose this time.

I was proceeding on the known knowns
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?
Why didn't you mention his narrow losses in Minny, Nevada and NH? Doesn't fit your narrative?

They are called swing states for a reason. I think he would have been in trouble until the "peaceful protests"...now I think he wins.

Because those 3 states flipped blue to red in 2016 and was the difference in electoral votes.
You do know that you are the dictators. It is quite apparent now. You have no answers. Just more questions using a reducing finite amount of resources available to fix each one with questionable results.

Again, what in holy hell are you talking about?
That you dodge questions that you don't have answers to or if they don't fit your narrative.
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?


How many fake ballots will the democrat party turn in with their mail in ballot fraud?

More than the Republicans will hopefully
 
The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Here is what the stats show:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference
Wisconsin. Trump got 1,405,284 votes. Hillary got 1,382,536 22,748 difference

Do you think he gets more or fewer votes in those 3 states?
Why didn't you mention his narrow losses in Minny, Nevada and NH? Doesn't fit your narrative?

They are called swing states for a reason. I think he would have been in trouble until the "peaceful protests"...now I think he wins.

Because those 3 states flipped blue to red in 2016 and was the difference in electoral votes.
You do know that you are the dictators. It is quite apparent now. You have no answers. Just more questions using a reducing finite amount of resources available to fix each one with questionable results.

Again, what in holy hell are you talking about?
That you dodge questions that you don't have answers to or if they don't fit your narrative.

Ok.
 
Who in their right mind could not LOVE a President who has been nominated not once, not twice....BUT THREE TIMES for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Oh, imbeciles who don't want peace. That's who.

(Actually, dems seem to love a President eligible for the Nobel HATE Prize more so)
 

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