Are there ANY Trump supporters here who have had enough? ANYONE?

[healthmyths]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

What is your source??? New York Times! Where did they get the returns? Who completed the returns?

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes'

CNN anchors Brian Stelter and S.E. Cupp discussed the New York Times‘ litany of recent “mistakes” and how the flubs “damage” the reputation of the media. “To put it kindly, The New York Times is having a rough year,” Cupp began, before recounting the list of “controversial, regrettable” flubs on...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Okay, fake news, got it.

You write: "From Maddow to Hannity: How the Division Pimps operate and win"
My question to you is what is your explanation regarding the NYT article, in context with the following?
Supposedly "open-minded" "logical" thinkers on this board HAVE not explained to me after I've put this on countless times
why does the MSM write the MOST negative news about Trump than any recent President?
I've a chart I'll put up that will substantiate that statement.

 

[Mac1958]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

What is your source??? New York Times! Where did they get the returns? Who completed the returns?

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes'

CNN anchors Brian Stelter and S.E. Cupp discussed the New York Times‘ litany of recent “mistakes” and how the flubs “damage” the reputation of the media. “To put it kindly, The New York Times is having a rough year,” Cupp began, before recounting the list of “controversial, regrettable” flubs on...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Okay, fake news, got it.

You write: "From Maddow to Hannity: How the Division Pimps operate and win"
My question to you is what is your explanation regarding the NYT article, in context with the following?
Supposedly "open-minded" "logical" thinkers on this board HAVE not explained to me after I've put this on countless times
why does the MSM write the MOST negative news about Trump than any recent President?
I've a chart I'll put up that will substantiate that statement.
View attachment 394079

Because the media leans Left and does a lousy job of hiding it.

Which has nothing to do with this.

 

[whitehall]

Whatever Trump legally saved on his taxes pales in comparison to Biden's Chinese connection and his son Hunter's extortion job with the Ukraine energy company.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

What is your source??? New York Times! Where did they get the returns? Who completed the returns?

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes'

CNN anchors Brian Stelter and S.E. Cupp discussed the New York Times‘ litany of recent “mistakes” and how the flubs “damage” the reputation of the media. “To put it kindly, The New York Times is having a rough year,” Cupp began, before recounting the list of “controversial, regrettable” flubs on...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Okay, fake news, got it.

You write: "From Maddow to Hannity: How the Division Pimps operate and win"
My question to you is what is your explanation regarding the NYT article, in context with the following?
Supposedly "open-minded" "logical" thinkers on this board HAVE not explained to me after I've put this on countless times
why does the MSM write the MOST negative news about Trump than any recent President?
I've a chart I'll put up that will substantiate that statement.
View attachment 394079

Because the media leans Left and does a lousy job of hiding it.

Which has nothing to do with this.

I agree. The media leans left. The question is......why?

 

[Meister]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

I have had more than enough of the democrats, and their lies, false allegations, riots and moves to socialism.

Another "no", cool!

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

What is your source??? New York Times! Where did they get the returns? Who completed the returns?

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes'

CNN anchors Brian Stelter and S.E. Cupp discussed the New York Times‘ litany of recent “mistakes” and how the flubs “damage” the reputation of the media. “To put it kindly, The New York Times is having a rough year,” Cupp began, before recounting the list of “controversial, regrettable” flubs on...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Okay, fake news, got it.

Seems Mac has to deflect rather than defend his OP

 

[Mac1958]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

I have had more than enough of the democrats, and their lies, false allegations, riots and moves to socialism.

Another "no", cool!

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

What is your source??? New York Times! Where did they get the returns? Who completed the returns?

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes

'New York Times is having a rough year': CNN anchors lament recent 'mistakes'

CNN anchors Brian Stelter and S.E. Cupp discussed the New York Times‘ litany of recent “mistakes” and how the flubs “damage” the reputation of the media. “To put it kindly, The New York Times is having a rough year,” Cupp began, before recounting the list of “controversial, regrettable” flubs on...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Okay, fake news, got it.

Seems Mac has to deflect rather than defend his OP

I just asked a simple question. That's all this thread is about.

That's when you guys when drama queen. Again.

Not my problem.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

3) Everyone’s goal is to pay as little taxes as legally possible, why would the president be any different?

The real problem is that Trump defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

He follows tax policies that increase that gap.

Some Democratic politicians actually propose modest changes. But Trump’s followers already accept this reality. They enjoy watching this rich grifter and demagogue supposedly “beat the system,” and mock those of us who oppose our country drifting toward oligarchy (and civil war).

Any President, but especially this President, is not your average Joe who is just worrying about feeding and sheltering and educating his family.

A President ought to be held to a higher level of responsibility. To lead and provide a good example. Trump is a grifter who is neither responsible, nor thoughtfully and carefully leads. The “example” he provides is that billionaires can hire lawyers to beat the system and get away with not paying taxes.

Someday you will understand that using the tax codes that are in place and put in place by both parties is the prudent thing to do.
I would fire my CPA if he didn't adhere to the laws in place regarding the tax codes in place.
Somehow I bet when you do your taxes, you use everything available to you that is in place....come on be honest.
You don't like Trump. You should just stop your stupidity once you say, "I don't like Trump".
You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.

“You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.”

I don’t appreciate the personal attack. Or treating me as part of some group you despise.

You imply I know nothing about the history of tax codes, or how things work in the real world. I‘ve paid taxes for 50 years, usually doing them myself. You address yourself to nothing whatever that I actually said.

The whole system sucks and is as complicated as hell. That alone, but much else about the system, favors the ultra-rich and corporations who have legions of professional lawyers and tax accountants to dig up every loophole imaginable, even to invent new ones. A working man like myself never had many options to escape paying taxes, and I never sought special loopholes. As a political radical, I was always extremely careful to pay my fair share.

As for your complaint about my not being honest, I’m a bit confused:

I have always said I despise everything about the born rich lowlife grifter Donald Trump. I despised him all those years when he was a Democrat. I despised him when he became a Republican. I despise him now.

Last week when Trump mugged and pandered before his white Minneapolis supporters about their “great genes” ... I despised him even more. Is that clear enough for you?

 

[TheHardTruth]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who have had enough?
Enough? Enough what? Enough record unemployment? Enough record unemployment for minorities? Enough Record stock market highs which increase the value of everyday working people's 401k's and 403b's? Enough record financial support for Black Colleges.Enough prison reform giving freedom to individuals serving unreasonably long prison sentences, the majority of whom are minorities. Enough of not being dragged into endless wars? Enough funding of our military so America can lead from a position of strength? Enough of making foreign nations pay their fair share to NATO relieving regular Americans of the tax burden needed in the past to pay it for them? Enough of controlling our border and keeping out ILLEGAL aliens, making it possible for LEGAL immigration to continue for those entering the LAWFUL way? Enough decisive action, putting in place a travel ban from China and Europe that according to the W.H.O. slowed the spread by 2-3 weeks undoubtedly saving 10's if not 100's of thousands of lives?
I could go on.....but I think you get the point. No. Bring it on. Give me more...much more from this President who has done more to Make America Great Again than ALL the Democrat Presidents COMBINED for the past 50 years.

You can let your TDS cloud what little objective reasoning you have. Sensible, intelligent Americans can see very clearly that President Donald J Trump, ( Yes he is President and you should probably get over it already) he is on Americas side and that's good for them.

My question to you is....Besides your utter disdain for him as an individual, what has he done that is SO horrible for America as President that keeps you from supporting our President instead of tearing him down at Americas expense?
View attachment 394056

Okay, another "no", got it!

I think you're seeing what a stupid thread that was started.
You can't even put up a viable debate on the discussion.

I asked a clear and direct question. You guys are doing a great job of answering it for me, in your own way.

The thread doesn't require your approval. If you don't like it, tough shit.

"I asked a clear and direct question. You guys are doing a great job of answering it for me, in your own way."

So why can't YOU be an adult and grow a set of cojones and answer my clear and direct question to YOU?
That question being... Besides your utter disdain for him as an individual, what has he done that is SO horrible for America as President that keeps you from supporting our President instead of tearing him down at Americas expense?
The lack of an answer tells me you have NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING you can sight that would answer that question without making you look like a stark raving TDS afflicted petulant child.

You really need to calm down.

First, I disagree with him on a majority of the issues. That's enough, all on its own.

Does that make any sense to someone like you, at all?

The fact that he is a national embarrassment, a buffoon, a con man, and a clear and present danger only makes it more vivid.

So I guess you're just wrong. Sorry.

"....I disagree with him on a majority of the issues." Really? Name them. "....he is a national embarrassment, a buffoon, a con man, and a clear and present danger .... Personal attacks having NOTHING to do with his results as President.

All lip service and personal attacks. You perpetuate the stereotype of the Left quite well. Not ONE SPECIFIC item about his actions AS PRESIDENT can you seem to sight. I, and many others here, are STILL waiting for you to actually come up with something of substance to validate your position. We will continue to wait, but expect NOTHING because you have NOTHING.

 

[Meister]

3) Everyone’s goal is to pay as little taxes as legally possible, why would the president be any different?

The real problem is that Trump defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

He follows tax policies that increase that gap.

Some Democratic politicians actually propose modest changes. But Trump’s followers already accept this reality. They enjoy watching this rich grifter and demagogue supposedly “beat the system,” and mock those of us who oppose our country drifting toward oligarchy (and civil war).

Any President, but especially this President, is not your average Joe who is just worrying about feeding and sheltering and educating his family.

A President ought to be held to a higher level of responsibility. To lead and provide a good example. Trump is a grifter who is neither responsible, nor thoughtfully and carefully leads. The “example” he provides is that billionaires can hire lawyers to beat the system and get away with not paying taxes.

Someday you will understand that using the tax codes that are in place and put in place by both parties is the prudent thing to do.
I would fire my CPA if he didn't adhere to the laws in place regarding the tax codes in place.
Somehow I bet when you do your taxes, you use everything available to you that is in place....come on be honest.
You don't like Trump. You should just stop your stupidity once you say, "I don't like Trump".
You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.

Meister says: “You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.”

I don’t appreciate the personal attack. Or treating me as part of some group you despise.

You imply I know nothing about the history of tax codes, or how things work in the real world. I‘ve paid taxes for 54 years, usually doing them myself. You address nothing whatever that I actually said.

The whole system sucks and is as complicated as hell. That alone, but much else about the system, favors the ultra-rich and corporations who have legions of professional lawyers and tax accountants to dig up every loophole imaginable, even to invent new ones. A working man like myself never had many options to escape paying taxes, and I never sought special loopholes. As a political radical, I was always extremely careful to pay my fair share.

As for your complaint about my not being honest, I’m a bit confused:

I have always, always, said I despise everything about the lowlife grifter Donald Trump. I despised him all those years when he was a Democrat. I despised him when he became a Republican. I despise him now. Last week when he mugged and pandered before his white Minneapolis supporters about their “great genes” ... I despised him even more. Is that clear enough for you?

Until you find a crime which Trump has committed, you have nothing, Tom. You DON'T like Trump. You should just leave it
at that. Be honest, you paid exactly what you owed in taxes, and not anymore....just Like Trump. Yet, you despise Trump for it.
Seems you have an issue with someone being 'rich'. That's America for you, don't like it? Move to Cuba, they'll like your money.
Sorry that I offended you....well, not really. I still stand with my prior post to you. And add, I hope you despise Trump for four more
years while he's in office.

 

[Oddball]

Trumpsters don't give one single flying fuck about your moonbat temper tantrums....In fact, they solidify their support. If you had a functioning brain stem, you would have figured that out after four years.

Yet you still lose your shit over my little posts.

So, you're just full of shit.

I'm not losing my shit over anything.

I find great amusement in mockery and derision of ever-sniveling crackpot nose pickers like you.

IOW, I'm laughing at your snobbery and narcissism, peckerhead.

 

[RodISHI]

The cat's now out of the bag on his finances - he squandered the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 that Daddy gave him by the year 2000, and he's been living off Deutsche Bank loans and IRS tax refunds for decades.

He lied to the American people about a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us, mocked those who were just trying to protect themselves and their families with masks, allowed thousands of his fans to gather in a clearly unsafe way, and refused to take responsibility for anything.

A long and growing list of people who worked near, with, and around him in his administration have come out with searing observations on his behaviors and actions behind closed doors, warning us that he is a threat to our country.

And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Since you appear to have his finances all down or believe that you do anyhow please tell us a full accounting of his asset to debt ratio.

 

[Chuz Life]

.And that, of course, is just the beginning.

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

Nope.

Still prefer him over any alternative.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I didn't vote for either candidate in 2016, but the one thing that I am REALLY tired of is TDS and all the machinations of those who are quite willing to ruin this nation of ours just to get rid of him.

 

[asaratis]

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

The only voters who are "wavering" are the democrats, Independents and undecided's. They are wavering toward Trump and not just a "little bit"

e.g. Leo Terrell 2.0

 

[Shelzin]

3) Everyone’s goal is to pay as little taxes as legally possible, why would the president be any different?

The real problem is that Trump defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

No... The real problem is pretty much every presidential hopeful that had a chance defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

He follows tax policies that increase that gap.

Some Democratic politicians actually propose modest changes. But Trump’s followers already accept this reality.

Well... It's not like Democrats didn't have same ability and opportunity to change it. I'm kind of surprised everyone doesn't accept this as reality. Ron Paul was against it, didn't get the votes, media air time... Although like Trump he would fill stadiums when he came to town. That's reality.

They enjoy watching this rich grifter and demagogue supposedly “beat the system,” and mock those of us who oppose our country drifting toward oligarchy (and civil war).

Understand.. If there is a civil war... My side will win it, only to have to fight another one after. This is not in question. Nobody will win in a civil war, because the same people that I will happily fight along side with, will turn into the exact thing that I'll have to fight after they get the same kind of taste of power the BLM movement has at the moment.

Make sure your children/grandchildren don't fight in it.

I absolutely agree that the oligarchy, I like to call it the establishment, has to be brought to bear. I just don't understand how anyone thinks that Biden would be the one to do it. Considering how our government works, Trump isn't either. That would take an act of Congress. Blaming whoever is president at the time isn't going to do anything, past has shown that.

A President ought to be held to a higher level of responsibility. To lead and provide a good example. Trump is a grifter who is neither responsible, nor thoughtfully and carefully leads. The “example” he provides is that billionaires can hire lawyers to beat the system and get away with not paying taxes.

I agree. But then... That was something that was happening long before Trump. How about solve the problems we can solve in the time we have... Like shutting down riots and police reform... And make sure that is part of the platform for the next election?

Of course that means we have to take control of the RNC and DNC... Not sure how we can do that considering they are both private entities, and not government ones. That's reality.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

Are there ANY Trump supporters here who are even WAVERING? Just a LITTLE bit???

The only voters who are "wavering" are the democrats, Independents and undecided's. They are wavering toward Trump and not just a "little bit"

e.g. Leo Terrell 2.0

I used to not be able to watch Leo when he was an unconvincing, angry democrat but he's one of my favorite FNC's now. His enthusiasm and excitement for Trump is palpable.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Trump takes full advantage of the tax code. His opponant takes full advantage of his ability to enrich himself and family by selling political influence.

Only the worst sorts of rigid political hacks would think the former was the real problem in terms of corruption instead of the latter.

 

[buttercup]

I am not a Trump supporter, never have been and never will be, but I had to chime in here.

a deadly (he admitted) global pandemic that was bearing down on us.

Based on these condescending threads you always start, you think Trump supporters are brainwashed or stupid, but apparently you have no room to talk.

I understand what you're trying to do here, but I hope you get over your obsession with Trump and with how other people think or act, and focus more on yourself. You have a lot to learn.

 

[Natural Citizen]

3) Everyone’s goal is to pay as little taxes as legally possible, why would the president be any different?

The real problem is that Trump defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

He follows tax policies that increase that gap.

Some Democratic politicians actually propose modest changes. But Trump’s followers already accept this reality. They enjoy watching this rich grifter and demagogue supposedly “beat the system,” and mock those of us who oppose our country drifting toward oligarchy (and civil war).

Any President, but especially this President, is not your average Joe who is just worrying about feeding and sheltering and educating his family.

A President ought to be held to a higher level of responsibility. To lead and provide a good example. Trump is a grifter who is neither responsible, nor thoughtfully and carefully leads. The “example” he provides is that billionaires can hire lawyers to beat the system and get away with not paying taxes.

Someday you will understand that using the tax codes that are in place and put in place by both parties is the prudent thing to do.
I would fire my CPA if he didn't adhere to the laws in place regarding the tax codes in place.
Somehow I bet when you do your taxes, you use everything available to you that is in place....come on be honest.
You don't like Trump. You should just stop your stupidity once you say, "I don't like Trump".
You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.

Meister says: “You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.”

I don’t appreciate the personal attack. Or treating me as part of some group you despise.

You imply I know nothing about the history of tax codes, or how things work in the real world. I‘ve paid taxes for 54 years, usually doing them myself. You address nothing whatever that I actually said.

The whole system sucks and is as complicated as hell. That alone, but much else about the system, favors the ultra-rich and corporations who have legions of professional lawyers and tax accountants to dig up every loophole imaginable, even to invent new ones. A working man like myself never had many options to escape paying taxes, and I never sought special loopholes. As a political radical, I was always extremely careful to pay my fair share.

As for your complaint about my not being honest, I’m a bit confused:

I have always, always, said I despise everything about the lowlife grifter Donald Trump. I despised him all those years when he was a Democrat. I despised him when he became a Republican. I despise him now. Last week when he mugged and pandered before his white Minneapolis supporters about their “great genes” ... I despised him even more. Is that clear enough for you?

Until you find a crime which Trump has committed, you have nothing, Tom. You DON'T like Trump. You should just leave it
at that. Be honest, you paid exactly what you owed in taxes, and not anymore....just Like Trump. Yet, you despise Trump for it.
Seems you have an issue with someone being 'rich'. That's America for you, don't like it? Move to Cuba, they'll like your money.
Sorry that I offended you....well, not really. I still stand with my prior post to you. And add, I hope you despise Trump for four more
years while he's in office.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

3) Everyone’s goal is to pay as little taxes as legally possible, why would the president be any different?

The real problem is that Trump defends the very system that allows billionaires to pay nothing in taxes, further enriching corporations and Wall Street at the expense of working Americans.

He follows tax policies that increase that gap.

Some Democratic politicians actually propose modest changes. But Trump’s followers already accept this reality. They enjoy watching this rich grifter and demagogue supposedly “beat the system,” and mock those of us who oppose our country drifting toward oligarchy (and civil war).

Any President, but especially this President, is not your average Joe who is just worrying about feeding and sheltering and educating his family.

A President ought to be held to a higher level of responsibility. To lead and provide a good example. Trump is a grifter who is neither responsible, nor thoughtfully and carefully leads. The “example” he provides is that billionaires can hire lawyers to beat the system and get away with not paying taxes.

Someday you will understand that using the tax codes that are in place and put in place by both parties is the prudent thing to do.
I would fire my CPA if he didn't adhere to the laws in place regarding the tax codes in place.
Somehow I bet when you do your taxes, you use everything available to you that is in place....come on be honest.
You don't like Trump. You should just stop your stupidity once you say, "I don't like Trump".
You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.

Meister says: “You and your ilk are pathetic bed wetter's.”

I don’t appreciate the personal attack. Or treating me as part of some group you despise.

You imply I know nothing about the history of tax codes, or how things work in the real world. I‘ve paid taxes for 54 years, usually doing them myself. You address nothing whatever that I actually said.

The whole system sucks and is as complicated as hell. That alone, but much else about the system, favors the ultra-rich and corporations who have legions of professional lawyers and tax accountants to dig up every loophole imaginable, even to invent new ones. A working man like myself never had many options to escape paying taxes, and I never sought special loopholes. As a political radical, I was always extremely careful to pay my fair share.

As for your complaint about my not being honest, I’m a bit confused:

I have always, always, said I despise everything about the lowlife grifter Donald Trump. I despised him all those years when he was a Democrat. I despised him when he became a Republican. I despise him now. Last week when he mugged and pandered before his white Minneapolis supporters about their “great genes” ... I despised him even more. Is that clear enough for you?

Until you find a crime which Trump has committed, you have nothing, Tom. You DON'T like Trump. You should just leave it
at that. Be honest, you paid exactly what you owed in taxes, and not anymore....just Like Trump. Yet, you despise Trump for it.
Seems you have an issue with someone being 'rich'. That's America for you, don't like it? Move to Cuba, they'll like your money.
Sorry that I offended you....well, not really. I still stand with my prior post to you. And add, I hope you despise Trump for four more
years while he's in office.

You are trying to be cute. Fine. Be flippant. Quite likely you will get your way in November. My hating Trump has nothing to do with his being rich (or not so rich.) There are many wealthy people I respect.

I am not in position to know if Trump cheated on his taxes, or simply had his accountants “creatively” use the loopholes provided by our meant to be corruptible tax system. I do know he has a sordid history, throughout his career, of shafting small contractors, using the courts to bludgeon all who demand contract justice, hurting investors and workers while bailing himself out via unfair bankruptcy laws.

This OP isn’t about rich vs. poor, capitalist vs. worker or tax unfairness. My comment was solely in answer to somebody who raised (flippantly as you do) the tax question. My comment had content, and addressed the need for changes. Yours assumes the system is hunky dory, that only communists could complain, and is basically ad hominem and partisan. You think if a President has not been convicted of a tax crime, that means he is fine? No matter. I don’t expect more from you.

By the way, I would never tell anybody to vote for Biden. Just see Trump for the lowlife opportunist conman he has always been...