Are Republican's claims valid that Trump's indictment is 'political'?

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Yes they are.

Only to morons.

 

[Catsnmeters]

It is NOT falsifying business records to generalize hush money as a broad business or campaign expense.
That is no law you have to be specific as to the intent of the payment, just the amount and general purpose.
There were no records falsified,

The statute of limitations has a number of absolute legal needs that can not legally be ignored.
There is no legal way for legislators to try to write loopholes in the statute of limitations due to someone traveling a lot.
That would be a crime by the legislators.
The only time it would be legal to make a statute of limitations exception is if the person had prevented themselves from being prosecuted by leaving the jurisdiction perpetually, which Trump did not do.
The could have served him any time in those 8 years.
So it is illegal to wait until now.

But I am just catching up.
Odd you noticed.
Just got over covid.

Again, all these things you are parroting from your media outlets have already been covered multiple times 2 or 3 weeks ago.

You are behind the curve and I don't feel like rehashing all these talking points again.

If you want to put your medias' legal theories to the test, might I recommend the search function on this site? It wouldn't take you but 15 minutes or so to read through one of several threads on the topic from weeks ago to see how your legal acumen withstands scrutiny.

Good luck!

 

[tahuyaman]

LLCs can't hide anything.
All they can do is limit who can get sued if something goes wrong.

LLC’s are commonly used in money laundering operations.

 

[Rumpole]

I disagree.
Bush never had any influence on Congress to authorize the war.
That was done entirely by Hillary and Kerry, and they had to know the CIA was lying, because every other country in the world except Britain, said Saddam had no WMD.

No, it was Colin Powell that convinced Congress.

You seemed to totally miss the point about Benghazi, in that it was a totally secret and illegal war she was conducting on her own, against Assad and other Mideast leaders.

History is replete with various administrations and their antics. Need I go into Nixon, cambodia, etc? Noam Chomsky has a video on the crimes of US Presidents, so, no one has a monopoly on this sort of thing.

This has nothing to do with who "got a soldier killed".
It is about illegal secret wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Your claim that "Benghazi is about illegal secret wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians" is not an accurate description of the Benghazi incident or its investigations. The Benghazi attack was a targeted attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11-12, 2012. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

While the attack on the diplomatic mission was a tragic event, it was not related to illegal secret wars or the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. The investigations primarily focused on examining the events surrounding the attack, assessing security failures, evaluating the U.S. government's response, and addressing questions of accountability and decision-making.

And it is bogus to claim Trump did any thing remotely similar.
He did not start a single war.

Hmmmm.
The statement that "Trump did not start a single war" is technically true in the sense that the United States did not engage in new large-scale military interventions or declare war under the Trump administration. However, it is essential to consider several salient points and nuances about foreign policy and the broader context:

1. Continuation of existing conflicts: While the Trump administration did not initiate new wars, it continued military engagements and operations inherited from previous administrations. For example, the United States maintained its involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria during Trump's presidency. Trump paid lip service to ending the war in Afghanistan, kicked the can down to Biden, whose hands were tied, given the troop reductions, Biden had to either rebuild up the troops or pull out immediately. Since rebuilding the troops made no sense, his only option was to withdraw, despite the dangers the Taliban posed, (thanks to Trump).

Speaking of Afghanistan, I digress:

Trump pursued several controversial actions and policies in Afghanistan that had implications for the situation President Joe Biden inherited. Here are a few key points:

Negotiations with the Taliban: The Trump administration engaged in direct negotiations with the Taliban, culminating in the signing of the U.S.-Taliban agreement in February 2020. This agreement set the stage for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. However, it was controversial due to concerns about the Taliban's commitment to peace, the exclusion of the Afghan government from the talks, and the potential impact on the security situation.

Reduction of U.S. troop presence: Under the Trump administration, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan was significantly reduced. By the time President Biden assumed office, the troop level had already been brought down to around 2,500, a fraction of the previous levels. This reduction was controversial, with critics arguing that it could create a security vacuum and undermine the Afghan government's ability to fend off the Taliban.

Absence of a comprehensive peace agreement: While the U.S.-Taliban agreement addressed the withdrawal of U.S. forces, it did not include a comprehensive peace agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government. This omission left several critical issues unresolved, including power-sharing, the status of women's rights, and the future governance of Afghanistan. The lack of a broader peace agreement added complexity to the situation inherited by President Biden.

Delayed troop withdrawal deadline: As part of the U.S.-Taliban agreement, the Trump administration set a deadline for a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces by May 1, 2021. However, the deadline was approaching when President Biden took office, leaving him with limited time to reassess the situation, evaluate the peace process, and make decisions regarding troop presence.

Now then, more on the salient points of Trump's foreign policy moves.

2. Escalation and military actions: While not initiating full-scale wars, the Trump administration did authorize military actions and airstrikes in various countries, such as Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and Iraq. These actions resulted in casualties and further military involvement, albeit on a smaller scale compared to traditional warfare.

3. Shifts in alliances and international relations: The Trump administration pursued significant shifts in foreign policy, including reassessing traditional alliances and engaging in high-stakes negotiations. These moves, such as the U.S.-North Korea summits or changes to trade agreements, have potential implications for global dynamics and security. And I won't mention Trump's nauseating fawning over KJU and Putin.

Nor is there a single crime that can be attributed to Trump.
I do not like Trumps politics, but he is squeaky clean compared to Hillary.

Squeaky clean? Are you kidding?

Obstruction of justice: There were allegations that Trump obstructed justice during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. These allegations stemmed from actions such as the firing of FBI Director James Comey and attempts to influence or impede the investigation.

Abuse of power: Trump faced accusations of abuse of power related to the Ukraine scandal. It was alleged that he withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden. The House of Representatives impeached Trump on charges of abuse of power, although he was later acquitted by the Senate.

Violations of campaign finance laws: Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to charges related to hush money payments made during the 2016 election to women who claimed to have had affairs with Trump. Cohen implicated Trump, alleging that the payments were made at his direction and violated campaign finance laws.

Emoluments clause violations: Trump faced allegations that he violated the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution by profiting from foreign governments and entities through his business empire while serving as president. These allegations were based on concerns about potential conflicts of interest and the potential influence of foreign entities on U.S. policy. Trump earned $160 million from foreign entities while in office. Jared, while negotiating with the Saudi's during his time in office, shortly after leaving scored a $125,000,000 management fee on a $2 billion dollar score from Mohammed Bin Salman, the fellow who murdered and chopped up Jamal Kashoggi, the WaPo journalist.

Tax and financial irregularities: Various controversies and legal battles surrounded Trump's tax returns and financial records. Allegations included claims of tax avoidance, inflated asset valuations, and discrepancies in financial statements. Trump broke with tradition by refusing to release his tax returns, leading to ongoing speculation and investigations. Trump org was indicted and his CFO went to prison.

Involvement in the Stormy Daniels affair: Trump faced allegations of an extramarital affair with adult film actress Stormy Daniels and subsequent efforts to cover up the affair. This led to legal battles and accusations of campaign finance violations related to the hush money payments made to Daniels, this led to 34 felony count indictment in a NY court.

Potential obstruction of Congress: During the impeachment proceedings, Trump was accused of obstructing Congress by refusing to cooperate with subpoenas, withholding documents, and instructing administration officials to defy congressional inquiries.

Racially divisive rhetoric: Trump faced criticism for his controversial statements and actions that were perceived as racially divisive or discriminatory. This included comments about Mexican immigrants, the Muslim travel ban, and his response to racially charged incidents such as the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Alleged sexual misconduct: Multiple women came forward during Trump's presidential campaign with allegations of sexual misconduct, ranging from harassment to assault. These allegations, which Trump denied, resurfaced discussions about the treatment of women and his attitude towards them. Recently, a jury ruled that Trump was liable for sexual assualt and defamation and ordered to pay $5 million.

Conflicts of interest: Trump faced scrutiny over potential conflicts of interest arising from his business empire. Critics argued that his presidency could have influenced his decisions and policies in a way that benefitted his personal business interests.

COVID-19 pandemic response: Trump's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic drew criticism. Critics accused him of downplaying the severity of the virus, promoting unproven treatments, and not taking sufficient federal action to address the crisis and he emasculated the pandemic response team, and his resistenting testing set forth an accelerated trajectory that ultimately lead to more deaths than otherwise might have occured if a more stricter approach to testing was made.

 

[Rumpole]

LLC’s are commonly used in money laundering operations.

Shell companies are not prima facie evidence of illegal activity. There are a number of legit reasons for using them. So, You need corroborative evidence to confirm it.

 

[themirrorthief]

No, it was Colin Powell that convinced Congress.

History is replete with various administrations and their antics. Need I go into Nixon, cambodia, etc? Noam Chomsky has a video on the crimes of US Presidents, so, no one has a monopoly on this sort of thing.

Your claim that "Benghazi is about illegal secret wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians" is not an accurate description of the Benghazi incident or its investigations. The Benghazi attack was a targeted attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11-12, 2012. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

While the attack on the diplomatic mission was a tragic event, it was not related to illegal secret wars or the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. The investigations primarily focused on examining the events surrounding the attack, assessing security failures, evaluating the U.S. government's response, and addressing questions of accountability and decision-making.

Hmmmm.
The statement that "Trump did not start a single war" is technically true in the sense that the United States did not engage in new large-scale military interventions or declare war under the Trump administration. However, it is essential to consider several salient points and nuances about foreign policy and the broader context:

1. Continuation of existing conflicts: While the Trump administration did not initiate new wars, it continued military engagements and operations inherited from previous administrations. For example, the United States maintained its involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria during Trump's presidency. Trump paid lip service to ending the war in Afghanistan, kicked the can down to Biden, whose hands were tied, given the troop reductions, Biden had to either rebuild up the troops or pull out immediately. Since rebuilding the troops made no sense, his only option was to withdraw, despite the dangers the Taliban posed, (thanks to Trump).

Speaking of Afghanistan, I digress:

Trump pursued several controversial actions and policies in Afghanistan that had implications for the situation President Joe Biden inherited. Here are a few key points:

Negotiations with the Taliban: The Trump administration engaged in direct negotiations with the Taliban, culminating in the signing of the U.S.-Taliban agreement in February 2020. This agreement set the stage for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. However, it was controversial due to concerns about the Taliban's commitment to peace, the exclusion of the Afghan government from the talks, and the potential impact on the security situation.

Reduction of U.S. troop presence: Under the Trump administration, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan was significantly reduced. By the time President Biden assumed office, the troop level had already been brought down to around 2,500, a fraction of the previous levels. This reduction was controversial, with critics arguing that it could create a security vacuum and undermine the Afghan government's ability to fend off the Taliban.

Absence of a comprehensive peace agreement: While the U.S.-Taliban agreement addressed the withdrawal of U.S. forces, it did not include a comprehensive peace agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government. This omission left several critical issues unresolved, including power-sharing, the status of women's rights, and the future governance of Afghanistan. The lack of a broader peace agreement added complexity to the situation inherited by President Biden.

Delayed troop withdrawal deadline: As part of the U.S.-Taliban agreement, the Trump administration set a deadline for a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces by May 1, 2021. However, the deadline was approaching when President Biden took office, leaving him with limited time to reassess the situation, evaluate the peace process, and make decisions regarding troop presence.

Now then, more on the salient points of Trump's foreign policy moves.

2. Escalation and military actions: While not initiating full-scale wars, the Trump administration did authorize military actions and airstrikes in various countries, such as Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and Iraq. These actions resulted in casualties and further military involvement, albeit on a smaller scale compared to traditional warfare.

3. Shifts in alliances and international relations: The Trump administration pursued significant shifts in foreign policy, including reassessing traditional alliances and engaging in high-stakes negotiations. These moves, such as the U.S.-North Korea summits or changes to trade agreements, have potential implications for global dynamics and security. And I won't mention Trump's nauseating fawning over KJU and Putin.

Squeaky clean? Are you kidding?

Obstruction of justice: There were allegations that Trump obstructed justice during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. These allegations stemmed from actions such as the firing of FBI Director James Comey and attempts to influence or impede the investigation.

Abuse of power: Trump faced accusations of abuse of power related to the Ukraine scandal. It was alleged that he withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden. The House of Representatives impeached Trump on charges of abuse of power, although he was later acquitted by the Senate.

Violations of campaign finance laws: Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to charges related to hush money payments made during the 2016 election to women who claimed to have had affairs with Trump. Cohen implicated Trump, alleging that the payments were made at his direction and violated campaign finance laws.

Emoluments clause violations: Trump faced allegations that he violated the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution by profiting from foreign governments and entities through his business empire while serving as president. These allegations were based on concerns about potential conflicts of interest and the potential influence of foreign entities on U.S. policy. Trump earned $160 million from foreign entities while in office. Jared, while negotiating with the Saudi's during his time in office, shortly after leaving scored a $125,000,000 management fee on a $2 billion dollar score from Mohammed Bin Salman, the fellow who murdered and chopped up Jamal Kashoggi, the WaPo journalist.

Tax and financial irregularities: Various controversies and legal battles surrounded Trump's tax returns and financial records. Allegations included claims of tax avoidance, inflated asset valuations, and discrepancies in financial statements. Trump broke with tradition by refusing to release his tax returns, leading to ongoing speculation and investigations. Trump org was indicted and his CFO went to prison.

Involvement in the Stormy Daniels affair: Trump faced allegations of an extramarital affair with adult film actress Stormy Daniels and subsequent efforts to cover up the affair. This led to legal battles and accusations of campaign finance violations related to the hush money payments made to Daniels, this led to 34 felony count indictment in a NY court.

Potential obstruction of Congress: During the impeachment proceedings, Trump was accused of obstructing Congress by refusing to cooperate with subpoenas, withholding documents, and instructing administration officials to defy congressional inquiries.

Racially divisive rhetoric: Trump faced criticism for his controversial statements and actions that were perceived as racially divisive or discriminatory. This included comments about Mexican immigrants, the Muslim travel ban, and his response to racially charged incidents such as the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Alleged sexual misconduct: Multiple women came forward during Trump's presidential campaign with allegations of sexual misconduct, ranging from harassment to assault. These allegations, which Trump denied, resurfaced discussions about the treatment of women and his attitude towards them. Recently, a jury ruled that Trump was liable for sexual assualt and defamation and ordered to pay $5 million.

Conflicts of interest: Trump faced scrutiny over potential conflicts of interest arising from his business empire. Critics argued that his presidency could have influenced his decisions and policies in a way that benefitted his personal business interests.the

COVID-19 pandemic response: Trump's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic drew criticism. Critics accused him of downplaying the severity of the virus, promoting unproven treatments, and not taking sufficient federal action to address the crisis and he emasculated the pandemic response team, and his resistenting testing set forth an accelerated trajectory that ultimately lead to more deaths than otherwise might have occured if a more stricter approach to testing was made.

the democrats are so terrified of trump and his pro usa stance.....its really funny how their panties are always in such a big wad cause they know when trump gets back in the white house they will have to climb back in their slimey holes for a long time....cant wait

 

[bripat9643]

No, it was Colin Powell that convinced Congress.

History is replete with various administrations and their antics. Need I go into Nixon, cambodia, etc? Noam Chomsky has a video on the crimes of US Presidents, so, no one has a monopoly on this sort of thing.

Your claim that "Benghazi is about illegal secret wars that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians" is not an accurate description of the Benghazi incident or its investigations. The Benghazi attack was a targeted attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11-12, 2012. The attack resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

While the attack on the diplomatic mission was a tragic event, it was not related to illegal secret wars or the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. The investigations primarily focused on examining the events surrounding the attack, assessing security failures, evaluating the U.S. government's response, and addressing questions of accountability and decision-making.

Hmmmm.
The statement that "Trump did not start a single war" is technically true in the sense that the United States did not engage in new large-scale military interventions or declare war under the Trump administration. However, it is essential to consider several salient points and nuances about foreign policy and the broader context:

1. Continuation of existing conflicts: While the Trump administration did not initiate new wars, it continued military engagements and operations inherited from previous administrations. For example, the United States maintained its involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria during Trump's presidency. Trump paid lip service to ending the war in Afghanistan, kicked the can down to Biden, whose hands were tied, given the troop reductions, Biden had to either rebuild up the troops or pull out immediately. Since rebuilding the troops made no sense, his only option was to withdraw, despite the dangers the Taliban posed, (thanks to Trump).

Speaking of Afghanistan, I digress:

Trump pursued several controversial actions and policies in Afghanistan that had implications for the situation President Joe Biden inherited. Here are a few key points:

Negotiations with the Taliban: The Trump administration engaged in direct negotiations with the Taliban, culminating in the signing of the U.S.-Taliban agreement in February 2020. This agreement set the stage for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. However, it was controversial due to concerns about the Taliban's commitment to peace, the exclusion of the Afghan government from the talks, and the potential impact on the security situation.

Reduction of U.S. troop presence: Under the Trump administration, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan was significantly reduced. By the time President Biden assumed office, the troop level had already been brought down to around 2,500, a fraction of the previous levels. This reduction was controversial, with critics arguing that it could create a security vacuum and undermine the Afghan government's ability to fend off the Taliban.

Absence of a comprehensive peace agreement: While the U.S.-Taliban agreement addressed the withdrawal of U.S. forces, it did not include a comprehensive peace agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government. This omission left several critical issues unresolved, including power-sharing, the status of women's rights, and the future governance of Afghanistan. The lack of a broader peace agreement added complexity to the situation inherited by President Biden.

Delayed troop withdrawal deadline: As part of the U.S.-Taliban agreement, the Trump administration set a deadline for a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces by May 1, 2021. However, the deadline was approaching when President Biden took office, leaving him with limited time to reassess the situation, evaluate the peace process, and make decisions regarding troop presence.

Now then, more on the salient points of Trump's foreign policy moves.

2. Escalation and military actions: While not initiating full-scale wars, the Trump administration did authorize military actions and airstrikes in various countries, such as Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and Iraq. These actions resulted in casualties and further military involvement, albeit on a smaller scale compared to traditional warfare.

3. Shifts in alliances and international relations: The Trump administration pursued significant shifts in foreign policy, including reassessing traditional alliances and engaging in high-stakes negotiations. These moves, such as the U.S.-North Korea summits or changes to trade agreements, have potential implications for global dynamics and security. And I won't mention Trump's nauseating fawning over KJU and Putin.

Squeaky clean? Are you kidding?

Obstruction of justice: There were allegations that Trump obstructed justice during the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. These allegations stemmed from actions such as the firing of FBI Director James Comey and attempts to influence or impede the investigation.

Abuse of power: Trump faced accusations of abuse of power related to the Ukraine scandal. It was alleged that he withheld military aid to Ukraine to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden. The House of Representatives impeached Trump on charges of abuse of power, although he was later acquitted by the Senate.

Violations of campaign finance laws: Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to charges related to hush money payments made during the 2016 election to women who claimed to have had affairs with Trump. Cohen implicated Trump, alleging that the payments were made at his direction and violated campaign finance laws.

Emoluments clause violations: Trump faced allegations that he violated the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution by profiting from foreign governments and entities through his business empire while serving as president. These allegations were based on concerns about potential conflicts of interest and the potential influence of foreign entities on U.S. policy. Trump earned $160 million from foreign entities while in office. Jared, while negotiating with the Saudi's during his time in office, shortly after leaving scored a $125,000,000 management fee on a $2 billion dollar score from Mohammed Bin Salman, the fellow who murdered and chopped up Jamal Kashoggi, the WaPo journalist.

Tax and financial irregularities: Various controversies and legal battles surrounded Trump's tax returns and financial records. Allegations included claims of tax avoidance, inflated asset valuations, and discrepancies in financial statements. Trump broke with tradition by refusing to release his tax returns, leading to ongoing speculation and investigations. Trump org was indicted and his CFO went to prison.

Involvement in the Stormy Daniels affair: Trump faced allegations of an extramarital affair with adult film actress Stormy Daniels and subsequent efforts to cover up the affair. This led to legal battles and accusations of campaign finance violations related to the hush money payments made to Daniels, this led to 34 felony count indictment in a NY court.

Potential obstruction of Congress: During the impeachment proceedings, Trump was accused of obstructing Congress by refusing to cooperate with subpoenas, withholding documents, and instructing administration officials to defy congressional inquiries.

Racially divisive rhetoric: Trump faced criticism for his controversial statements and actions that were perceived as racially divisive or discriminatory. This included comments about Mexican immigrants, the Muslim travel ban, and his response to racially charged incidents such as the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Alleged sexual misconduct: Multiple women came forward during Trump's presidential campaign with allegations of sexual misconduct, ranging from harassment to assault. These allegations, which Trump denied, resurfaced discussions about the treatment of women and his attitude towards them. Recently, a jury ruled that Trump was liable for sexual assualt and defamation and ordered to pay $5 million.

Conflicts of interest: Trump faced scrutiny over potential conflicts of interest arising from his business empire. Critics argued that his presidency could have influenced his decisions and policies in a way that benefitted his personal business interests.

COVID-19 pandemic response: Trump's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic drew criticism. Critics accused him of downplaying the severity of the virus, promoting unproven treatments, and not taking sufficient federal action to address the crisis and he emasculated the pandemic response team, and his resistenting testing set forth an accelerated trajectory that ultimately lead to more deaths than otherwise might have occured if a more stricter approach to testing was made.

What was he convicted of, douchebag?