Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Lilith would disagree with Adam being perfect...

Lilith is a feminazi creation. Eve was the second human created.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Sexual Attraction between consenting adults harm no one? Really? That's not what the facts conclude. Scientific studies conclude that a homosexual lifestyle is more dangerous than smoking in relation to a shorter life span. Smoking takes an average of 7 years from the average lifespan........homosexuals average a 24 year shorter lifespan than heterosexuals.

Strange is it not that Liberals can pretend to care about the health risk to smokers and stick their noses up a person's keyster and demand that smoking be taxed to hell and back and regulated by the government because its dangerous, to hell with a persons right to privacy.........but something proven to be at least 3x more dangerous to the human body is ok and it would be against the constitution to attempt to regulate it because its a personal choice that hurts no one.....except the STDs spread to others etc.,

Dangers of homosexual lifestyle - Part 1

The homosexual lifestyle has been gaining legitimacy in the Western world over the past 20-30 years. The previous Liberal government contrib...

bold-truth.blogspot.com

Sexually Transmitted Diseases Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC

Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) have been increasing among gay and bisexual men.

www.cdc.gov

Just a few points

1. Both of the articles, especially the first one (2007) are out dated and from a time when gay relationships were not widely accepted. Both are before gay people were able to marry nation wide

2. When gay couple are allowed to fully participate in society and enjoy their relationships in the open, they are less likely to be promiscuous which is the leading cause of STDs

3, There is a good deal of promiscuity among heterosexuals as well and there is little doubt that the STD rates among them are similar but there is no mention of that .

4. In any case, I have to ask...what is your solution? Do we condemn homosexuality, strip gays of their rights and drive it back underground and into the bath houses and darkened XXX porn theaters where the have anonymous sex ? What effect on the STD problem will that have.?

5. On the other hand, we can continue the trend towards legitimizing and validating gay relationships so that they can fully participate in society by the light of day fostering stable monogamous relationships which will tamp down the STD rates.

6. The fact is that no matter what is done, you are not going to stamp out homosexuality. The choice to either criminalize it and condemn it and drive it inro the shadows where physical disease and emotional distress will fester, OR accept the fact that gay people have become part of the fabric of society and that gay relationships have been for the most part normalized? And given the latter option, we can see that gay people are very much like, and behave very much like, everyone else. When accepted as human beings as -opposed to freaks who are defined only by how they have sex -we see that are very much part of their communities. They have families, homes and jobs. THINK ABOUT IT

7 A final note. All of the physical and emotional problems of gay people can be attributed-not to their gayness in and of itself- but to the bigotry and abuse that they have historically suffered

 

[Clyde 154]

Just a few points

1. Both of the articles, especially the first one (2007) are out dated and from a time when gay relationships were not widely accepted. Both are before gay people were able to marry nation wide

2. When gay couple are allowed to fully participate in society and enjoy their relationships in the open, they are less likely to be promiscuous which is the leading cause of STDs

3, There is a good deal of promiscuity among heterosexuals as well and there is little doubt that the STD rates among them are similar but there is no mention of that .

4. In any case, I have to ask...what is your solution? Do we condemn homosexuality, strip gays of their rights and drive it back underground and into the bath houses and darkened XXX porn theaters where the have anonymous sex ? What effect on the STD problem will that have.?

5. On the other hand, we can continue the trend towards legitimizing and validating gay relationships so that they can fully participate in society by the light of day fostering stable monogamous relationships which will tamp down the STD rates.

6. The fact is that no matter what is done, you are not going to stamp out homosexuality. The choice to either criminalize it and condemn it and drive it inro the shadows where physical disease and emotional distress will fester, OR accept the fact that gay people have become part of the fabric of society and that gay relationships have been for the most part normalized? And given the latter option, we can see that gay people are very much like, and behave very much like, everyone else. When accepted as human beings as -opposed to freaks who are defined only by how they have sex -we see that are very much part of their communities. They have families, homes and jobs. THINK ABOUT IT

7 A final note. All of the physical and emotional problems of gay people can be attributed-not to their gayness in and of itself- but to the bigotry and abuse that they have historically suffered

Yeah........outdated. LMAO Its growing worse with more blind acceptance of this perverted

Just a few points

1. Both of the articles, especially the first one (2007) are out dated and from a time when gay relationships were not widely accepted. Both are before gay people were able to marry nation wide

2. When gay couple are allowed to fully participate in society and enjoy their relationships in the open, they are less likely to be promiscuous which is the leading cause of STDs

3, There is a good deal of promiscuity among heterosexuals as well and there is little doubt that the STD rates among them are similar but there is no mention of that .

4. In any case, I have to ask...what is your solution? Do we condemn homosexuality, strip gays of their rights and drive it back underground and into the bath houses and darkened XXX porn theaters where the have anonymous sex ? What effect on the STD problem will that have.?

5. On the other hand, we can continue the trend towards legitimizing and validating gay relationships so that they can fully participate in society by the light of day fostering stable monogamous relationships which will tamp down the STD rates.

6. The fact is that no matter what is done, you are not going to stamp out homosexuality. The choice to either criminalize it and condemn it and drive it inro the shadows where physical disease and emotional distress will fester, OR accept the fact that gay people have become part of the fabric of society and that gay relationships have been for the most part normalized? And given the latter option, we can see that gay people are very much like, and behave very much like, everyone else. When accepted as human beings as -opposed to freaks who are defined only by how they have sex -we see that are very much part of their communities. They have families, homes and jobs. THINK ABOUT IT

7 A final note. All of the physical and emotional problems of gay people can be attributed-not to their gayness in and of itself- but to the bigotry and abuse that they have historically suffered

Oooo! Can't comprehend English? The 2014 study from the CDC stated that the problem was growing within the homosexual community. As if a few years automatically is a reduction in the stats. Yes there is very much doubt in your false premise that Heterosexual rates of STD are close to the Homosexual spread when the entire demography stats are calculated.

As Mark Twain stated, Figures do not lie but LIARS SURE DO FIGURE. For example, you can't compare the use of condoms between the 2 groups and state they are the same. Why would a straight couple committed to a monogamous relationship even think of using Condoms, unless it is for birth control........which is not even considered in a homosexual relationship?

There is a 2021 study that confirms the reason why there is a vast difference between the 2 groups. Homosexuals are at least 4 times more enticed to stray from a monogamous relationship than a married heterosexual couple and why use a condom......no fear of reproduction? When you engage in sex outside a monogamous relationship you are engaging in sex with every one this other partner has ever slept with. The only safe sex is monogamous sex.

Heterosexual and Homosexual Marriages – Are Straight and Gay Marriages Identical?

Kerby Anderson examines both kinds of marriages, exploring evidence the relationships are intrinsically very different and unequal.

probe.org

With the number of homosexuals even considering a monogamous relationship far below those committed to a heterosexual relationship. Homosexual marriages that last at least 10 years in a monogamous fashion stand at 16% of that demography with Heterosexual couples stats standing between 70-80%.

Before you attempt to kill the messenger instead of attempting to refute the evidence presented because this article is presented by an Evangelical group.......note the documented reference list. Much of this information comes from government vetted sources, even the dept. of Labor is referenced....etc. Simply because the Liberal narrative has changed does not indicate that truth ever changes, regardless of the dates. Truth never evolves........opinions vary, and societies can evolve but Facts never evolve or they were never facts.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What are you talking about? Why are you asking me that . You seem to be confused. I am questioning the idea that children with gay parents have low self esteem.

Ok we are on the same page.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Lilith is a feminazi creation. Eve was the second human created.

Lilith - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not if you go old school.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

But, there is one major difference between us and Jesus. He was 100% perfect.

Well, then, since Jesus is 100% perfect and Jesus never said anything one way or another about homosexuality, if it really mattered all that much, don't you think He would have preached about it as much as you do?


Unless you think you know better than Jesus, that is.

 

[Blues Man]

It can be because the Bible says it is.

Yeah OK

Millions of years of human evolution disagree

 

[Blues Man]

It matters blame wise.

If you cannot see that then ----

Regards
DL

Blame for what?

Homosexuals have been the victims of hate and violence from the religious so who is to "blame" for that?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yeah OK

Millions of years of human evolution disagree

Sorry, no.

 

[Blues Man]

Neither did I, that was my point.

Judging someone, in the Biblical sense, would be referencing whether or not they are going to Heaven or Hell.

Right and wrong is clearly defined throughout the Bible, including the 10 Commandments.

That's not how I take the meaning of the words.

There are more ways to judge than just one.

And the 10 commandments say nothing about homosexuality.

 

[Blues Man]

Sorry, no.

There have been homosexuals as long as there has been people on this planet

 

[Clyde 154]

Well, then, since Jesus is 100% perfect and Jesus never said anything one way or another about homosexuality, if it really mattered all that much, don't you think He would have preached about it as much as you do?


Unless you think you know better than Jesus, that is.

One must "rightly divide the word of truth"....aka the Holy Scriptures. (2 Tim. 2:15) in order to establish TRUTH.


Jesus "never said anything one way or another about homosexuality"? Really? ".............Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, and said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall be one flesh?" -- Matthew 19:4-5.

What do you assume, "and they shall be one flesh".......indicates if not sexual and emotional connection?

And if that is to "ambiguous" for liberal mental giants..........the scriptures point out that everything the Apostles taught came directly from Jesus Christ while sitting on the throne in heaven at the right hand of God through the power of the Holy Spirit of God.

Before His death the Christ made a promise to His Apostles after the cross and death, that He would gift them with power in order to instruct them in all things righteous, truth from heaven.

"I (Jesus) still have many things to say to you (the apostles), but you cannot bear them now. However when He, the Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit), has come....He will guide you (the apostles) into all truth; FOR HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY, BUT WHATEVER HE HEARS (from Jesus) HE WILL SPEAK AND GUIDE YOU THINGS TO COME............." -- John 16:12-15

Some of those things Jesus instructed to His Apostles? Note: Homosexuality is a sin.

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, NOR HOMOSEXUALS, NOR SODOMITES.........will inherit the Kingdom of God." -- 1 Cor. 6:9-10

 

[DukeU]

well, it looks like not all urges are equal then, eh?

Obviously so, else I would have curb stomped you long ago.

 

[Clyde 154]

There have been homosexuals as long as there has been people on this planet

And.......its been a sin against God for as long as it has existed. Your point? The control of lust is what separates man from animals. Man has the capacity to judge right from wrong, good from evil..........

Homosexuality is "animalistic" and is a mental condition based upon some psychological disconnect much like that which is demonstrated in all Psychopaths and Sociopaths, its simply a personality disorder.

All sex is based upon free will choices........if not you have just been raped. The "mind" controls all aspects of sex and choice. If you cannot control your lust and desires you are SICK.

 

[Blues Man]

And.......its been a sin against God for as long as it has existed. Your point? The control of lust is what separates man from animals. Man has the capacity to judge right from wrong, good from evil..........

Homosexuality is "animalistic" and is a mental condition based upon some psychological disconnect much like that which is demonstrated in all Psychopaths and Sociopaths, its simply a personality disorder.

All sex is based upon free will choices........if not you have just been raped.

You're incorrect of course.

If a god made all people then he she or it also made homosexuals.

All human behavior exists on a continuum and has nothing to do with any gods.

 

[DukeU]

Lilith would disagree with Adam being perfect...

Matters not who disagrees, Adam was perfect up until he disobeyed God.

Who's Lilith anyway? SMH

 

[Blues Man]

Matters not who disagrees, Adam was perfect up until he disobeyed God.

Who's Lilith anyway? SMH

You do know that whole garden of eden thing is a myth right?

 

[DukeU]

Well, then, since Jesus is 100% perfect and Jesus never said anything one way or another about homosexuality, if it really mattered all that much, don't you think He would have preached about it as much as you do?


Unless you think you know better than Jesus, that is.

Jesus may not have mentioned it specifically, but he did reference sexuality.

(Matthew 19:4–6).

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


But whether he mentioned it or not doesn't really matter because God did specifically mention it.

Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Do you think you know better than God?

 

[DukeU]

And the 10 commandments say nothing about homosexuality.

The 10 Commandments say nothing of bestiality either. Do you think that's ok? How about Cannibalism?

 

[DukeU]

You do know that whole garden of eden thing is a myth right?

You do know that's your opinion right?