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April 9, 1865 Lee Surrenders to Grant

Zincwarrior

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Dumbest potus speech EVER. He's killing and destroying half the nation, yet speaks of liberty, freedom, and government of by for the people. Lmfao!
Secess would say that I guess.

To everyone else it rings of the sacrifice of good men for those ideals.
 

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Secess would say that I guess.

To everyone else it rings of the sacrifice of good men for those ideals.
Lol. That’s dumb. The Union soldier was fighting to prevent freedom, not save it.
 

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Lol. That’s dumb. The Union soldier was fighting to prevent freedom, not save it.
They were fighting to keep the Union together. The South was fighting so that the top 1% (wealthy plantation owners) could keep their labor prices down by using slaves, whipping, raping, and killing them as they felt like.
 

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They were fighting to keep the Union together. The South was fighting so that the top 1% (wealthy plantation owners) could keep their labor prices down by using slaves, whipping, raping, and killing them as they felt like.
And by fighting to keep the Union together they were destroying the liberty and freedom of southerns.

The southern soldier was fighting for freedom and self determination, and to protect their homeland from invaders.

The vast majority of southerns didn’t own slaves.
 

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And by fighting to keep the Union together they were destroying the liberty and freedom of southerns.

The southern soldier was fighting for freedom and self determination, and to protect their homeland from invaders.

The vast majority of southerns didn’t own slaves.
Southerns? Are you a US citizen?

What liberty and freedom were the "Southerns" losing? (well excluding the 5mm slaves of course which you appear to be wearing blinders to.
 

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Southerns? Are you a US citizen?

What liberty and freedom were the "Southerns" losing? (well excluding the 5mm slaves of course which you appear to be wearing blinders to.
You are a bit slow. When Lincoln attacked the South, what do you think happened to southerns?

When you lose your life or livelihood caused by an invading army, is that a loss of freedom?
 

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Native English speakers of good education where the crafters and signers of the papers that formed America. Perpetual Union is most definitely and clearly stated. Suggesting they did not know what that meant is to reject all they did.
 

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You are a bit slow. When Lincoln attacked the South, what do you think happened to southerns?
Lincoln didn't attack the south. Terrorist militias attacked Fort Sumter. The United States then responded to eliminate the terrorist groups and their shadow governments.

Interesting that you did not answer. Are you a US citizen?
 

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Native English speakers of good education where the crafters and signers of the papers that formed America. Perpetual Union is most definitely and clearly stated. Suggesting they did not know what that meant is to reject all they did.
Link it.
 

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Lincoln didn't attack the south. Terrorist militias attacked Fort Sumter. The United States then responded to eliminate the terrorist groups and their shadow governments.

Interesting that you did not answer. Are you a US citizen?
Lol. That’s absurd. Get informed.
 

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Lol. That’s absurd. Get informed.
Sigh.

1. Are you now arguing the CSA didn't fire on Fort Sumter?
2. Are you a US citizen? If so, what state did you live where you skipped US history?
 

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