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Andy Griffith on The Patriot Act

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Down-home old-fashioned conservative American values, right here:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CvoC551i2E[/ame] :clap2:
 

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What that has to do with the patriot act is anyones guess.
 

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It may be legal but, at its core, it fundamentally undermines the Constitution in many ways.
 

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It may be legal but, at its core, it fundamentally undermines the Constitution in many ways.

Then what do you call all these terrorist and their agenda to our nation and around the world? In our nation our constitution is being under minded by thugs who violated it on 9/11. So where does that leave us? This is an honest question here and we as a nation can't have our cake and eat it too. It has to be one way or the other and not we it's convenient to use.
 

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It may be legal but, at its core, it fundamentally undermines the Constitution in many ways.

If it undermines the Constitution, then it is, by very definition, illegal. You can't have it both ways.
 

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It may be legal but, at its core, it fundamentally undermines the Constitution in many ways.

Bully, if it did that it wouldnt be legal.
 

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It may be legal but, at its core, it fundamentally undermines the Constitution in many ways.

If it doesn't specifically violate the Constitution how can it fundamentally "undermine" it? You could just as easily say it fundamentally protects the Constitutional rights of Americans, especially the right to not be murdered by savages. But then again, people like you don't believe anyone has a "right to life".
 
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If it doesn't specifically violate the Constitution how can it fundamentally "undermine" it? You could just as easily say it fundamentally protects the Constitutional rights of Americans, especially the right to not be murdered by savages. But then again, people like you don't believe anyone has a "right to life".

It does specifically violate the Constitution.
It goes against the 1st amendment, ensuring freedom of speech (ask the American Library Association's office for intellectual freedom); the 4th amendment, protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures; and it goes against the 6th amendment, ensuring fair and speedy trials, legal counsel, and the right to liberty (ask the Tipton Three).
 

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It does specifically violate the Constitution.
It goes against the 1st amendment, ensuring freedom of speech (ask the American Library Association's office for intellectual freedom); the 4th amendment, protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures; and it goes against the 6th amendment, ensuring fair and speedy trials, legal counsel, and the right to liberty (ask the Tipton Three).

Wiggles, when our enemies use OUR Constitution againts us, then what we do to defend ourselves DOESN'T endanger the Constitution, it PRESERVES the Constitution, for without US, there is NO CONSTITUTION.

Get it?
 

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