An Apology to African Americans

[Pop23]

You realize I stated what you have in caps, and was acussed of it being racist.

NOW THATS FUNNY!

No.. You were deemed racist by your own definition of misrepresenting facts. Again. If it's a fact, show the evidence of half. NOBODY is arguing that some were. I'm just wondering where you got the information for your claim for half.

You realize people breed. And they rarely breed within there own families. That's spreads DNA over a wide population through time. Over 4000 years ? It spreads bigly.

Run the numbers yourself junior.

I gave you a homework assignment. Now get to it.

 

[Slash]

Dude, I stated a fact to add perspective. You got a hard on and blathered here and there about it.

Answer your own question, what's your point?

I didn't bring up that half of all slaves are descendants of slave traders. I just asked you to back up your assertion. My question was simply what are you asserting with that statement, and what proof do you have of the number you claim. That's it.

 

[Slash]

You realize people breed. And they rarely breed within there own families. That's spreads DNA over a wide population through time. Over 4000 years ? It spreads bigly.

Run the numbers yourself junior.

I gave you a homework assignment. Now get to it.

No, you failed to give your answer. People Breed yes. Did they interbreed with the slaver groups? Were those slaver groups large enough to cause interbreding in half or more of Africans? Were those slaver groups from tribes that died out?

Again this is your theory. Lets see the work.


Also, what's the reasoning for your post about this? If it's just to say "blacks sold slaves" and troll that's a pretty pointless post. What's the meaning of your fact as it pertains to this topic?

 

[Decus]

^^^^^ says the African slave trader apologist

Nuff said

Who's the apologist. I agree. Slavery is bad.

And without the provider, there are no slaves.

Done with this nonsense

It would seem that Africans are taking more responsibility for their role in the slave trade:

"The Civil Rights Congress of Nigeria has written to tribal chiefs saying: "We cannot continue to blame the white men, as Africans, particularly the traditional rulers, are not blameless.""

...........

"The shameful history of some traditional leaders remains an awkward subject on which many politicians prefer to maintain silence. One exception was in 1998 when Yoweri Museveni, the president of Uganda, told an audience including Bill Clinton: "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.""

African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade

Odd the we don't have a better understanding of this in the US.

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You realize I stated what you have in caps, and was acussed of it being racist.

NOW THATS FUNNY!

Only three possibilities as I see it: some people are willfully ignorant, intentionally deceitful or simply stupid. Stupid is increasingly the most likely answer.

 

[Gracie]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

Hope you are speaking for yourself because you damn sure aren't speaking for me.

 

[Pop23]

Dude, I stated a fact to add perspective. You got a hard on and blathered here and there about it.

Answer your own question, what's your point?

I didn't bring up that half of all slaves are descendants of slave traders. I just asked you to back up your assertion. My question was simply what are you asserting with that statement, and what proof do you have of the number you claim. That's it.

Math is the proof. Try doing some. It might blow your mind

 

[Slash]

Math is the proof. Try doing some. It might blow your mind

Did the math. Didn't get close to 50%. You were wrong and lied.

 

[Pop23]

You realize people breed. And they rarely breed within there own families. That's spreads DNA over a wide population through time. Over 4000 years ? It spreads bigly.

Run the numbers yourself junior.

I gave you a homework assignment. Now get to it.

No, you failed to give your answer. People Breed yes. Did they interbreed with the slaver groups? Were those slaver groups large enough to cause interbreding in half or more of Africans? Were those slaver groups from tribes that died out?

Again this is your theory. Lets see the work.


Also, what's the reasoning for your post about this? If it's just to say "blacks sold slaves" and troll that's a pretty pointless post. What's the meaning of your fact as it pertains to this topic?

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

 

[Slash]

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

What tribe are you talking about there? 30% is what I got. Well below your half mark. Sorry honey.

And what was your point on this? Some racist "look in Africa they ran slaves, stop looking at the USA even though the topic is the USA" BS? Yeah thought so.

 

[Pop23]

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

What tribe are you talking about there? 30% is what I got. Well below your half mark. Sorry honey.

And what was your point on this? Some racist "look in Africa they ran slaves, stop looking at the USA even though the topic is the USA" BS? Yeah thought so.

Sure, of course, your an idiot.

So ya got that goin for ya.

Oh, you're stupid as well, then again, you appear to be proud of both facts!

 

[Pop23]

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

What tribe are you talking about there? 30% is what I got. Well below your half mark. Sorry honey.

And what was your point on this? Some racist "look in Africa they ran slaves, stop looking at the USA even though the topic is the USA" BS? Yeah thought so.

You do understand that it was African Blacks that supplied the slaves, right?

Oh, I forgot, you're an idiot.

 

[MaryL]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

So, that almost sounded sincere. Do you apologize for the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, or the sinking of the Lusitania, as well? Please, you apology is as meaningless it is sycophantic pandering. I am sure you are sincere. What difference does it make?

 

[LOIE]

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

What tribe are you talking about there? 30% is what I got. Well below your half mark. Sorry honey.

And what was your point on this? Some racist "look in Africa they ran slaves, stop looking at the USA even though the topic is the USA" BS? Yeah thought so.

You do understand that it was African Blacks that supplied the slaves, right?

Oh, I forgot, you're an idiot.

Great article in HUFF Post - Did we sell each other into slavery:Misconception

God, you are helpless

Do this take a tribe of 200 who fought a battle, took slaves and sold them. They now have dirty blood lines.

Figure each has three children by the time they're 25. And so on and so on.

In 375 years the math works out to nearly a billion people with dirty bloodlines.

Now that's simplistic. There are obvious population statistics that would come in to play radically reducing that number, but we are also covering less than 10% of the time needed but only 1 tribe out of many.

It would be nearly impossible to argue any African had clean bloodlines when it comes to the slave trade.

There ya go, now go outside and get some sun ......


Son.

What tribe are you talking about there? 30% is what I got. Well below your half mark. Sorry honey.

And what was your point on this? Some racist "look in Africa they ran slaves, stop looking at the USA even though the topic is the USA" BS? Yeah thought so.

You do understand that it was African Blacks that supplied the slaves, right?

Oh, I forgot, you're an idiot.

Here's an article by Dwayne Wong that I think is excellent.

There are many misconceptions about African history and nowhere is this more true than the topic of the slave trade. Very often I see comments by people who argue that Africans sold each other into slavery. There is some element of truth to this, but to speak of the slave trade solely as Africans selling each other t is a gross oversimplification of what was a complex historical event. This also seems to be an attempt to shift the burden of the slave trade on the victims of that very trade. In How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Walter Rodney mentions how the white author of a book on the slave trade admitted that he was encouraged by other scholars to blame the slave trade solely on the Africans. This narrative helps to lessen European guilt by making Africans seem just as or even more guilty of being involved in the slave trade. This piece is not an attempt to ignore the African role in the slave trade or to absolve those that were involved, but to to provide a more complete picture of the African involvement in slave trade.

In the first place, the Portuguese initiated what eventually became the Trans-Atlantic slave trade mainly through slave raids along the coasts of Africa. The first of these raids came in 1444 and was led by Lançarote de Freitas. The problem with raiding for slaves was that it was extremely dangerous. For instance, the slave trader Nuno Tristão was killed during an ambush. Slave raiding proved to be an extremely dangerous way to obtain slaves, but buying slaves was much safer and took less effort on the part of the Europeans. Therefore, the first phase of the slave trade began not with a trade, but with a series of raids. This point is especially important because although the slave trade was on some levels based on a partnership between European buyers and African traders, the slave trade did not begin as such.

Moreover, the partnership between the traders and buyers was an uneasy one. The European slave traders often betrayed those who supplied them with slaves. A famous case of this was the African slave trader Daaga who was tricked and captured by slave traders. He was taken to Trinidad where he would eventually lead a mutiny. Another example is given by Anne Bailey in her book African Voices in the Atlantic Slave Trade. She mentions the story of Chief Ndorkutsu who had been providing captives to the European traders. Eventually some of the Ndorkutsu’s own relatives were tricked into boarding a slave ship and then taken as slaves to Cuba. In some cases, such as that of Madam Tinubu in Nigeria and Afonso of the Kongo Kingdom, those Africans that initially gave African captives to the Europeans came to resist the slave trade. Tinubu had a change of heart when she realized how inhumanely the slaves were treated. Afonso was almost assassinated by the Portuguese after he demanded an end to the slave trade in his kingdom.

Typically wars in West Africa were relatively short affairs that left a small number of causalities. The introduction of European weapons made these wars more drawn out and destructive affairs. Moreover, the only way Africans could acquire these firearms was through the trade of slaves. A king of Dahomey once requested that Europeans establish a firearms factory in his nation, but this request went ignored. Firearms became necessary for African nations to defend themselves both from African rivals as well as from European intrusion, but the only way to acquire these weapons was through the slave trade. This situation only benefited the competing European powers that were able to play Africans against each other.

Some Africans did play a role in the slave trade and the trade could not have been as large as it was without cooperation from Africans. With that being said, I think many people who have not properly studied the slave trade have a tendency to overstate how involved Africans were in a misguided attempt to shift the blame of the slave trade on Africans.

 

[LOIE]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

So, that almost sounded sincere. Do you apologize for the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, or the sinking of the Lusitania, as well? Please, you apology is as meaningless it is sycophantic pandering. I am sure you are sincere. What difference does it make?

Years ago "something told me" to go visit an elderly member of my church. I ignored that little voice in my head, did not go, and that night he passed away.

Now when I get that little voice in my head, like I did when I wrote this letter, I listen and act. As far as what good it does - that's not up to me. It's like tossing a rock into the water and waiting for the ripples. You never know. I gave a copy of this letter to a young man on the subway and he said, "Thanks a lot for that." Another lady I gave it to hugged me and said "That was very moving. Thank you."

I believe I am God's instrument in the world. He uses me however He wills.

 

[LOIE]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

Why are you apologizing for something that wasn't your fault? I abhor the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis too, but I certainly am not responsible for their behavior anymore than all blacks are responsible for other blacks behavior.

Correct. This incident was not my fault. But I have come to believe that "White silence is violence," and we have been silent while people have been discriminated against, segregated, demonized, and denied basic rights in this country. As long as it didn't directly affect us, we had nothing to say. I honestly believe it's time for that to change.

 

[LOIE]

The apology itself is a dividing force.
It reinforces the victimization of blacks, and it reinforces the lack of self criticism that the black race so desperately needs. As long as you can blame someone else for your behavior - you are never going to change and the black race will forever be plagued by a self defeating culture.

These backwoods KKK white trash are such a small percentage of whites that it is nothing but stupidity to consider their opinions as representation of anyone but the handful of idiots they are.

I do not see it as a dividing force. I am truly sorry that there are people in this country who hate and are so willing to put that hatred on public display.

 

[LOIE]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

Don't apologize to the n*ggers ever. They were much better off as slaves, race traitor.

Common misconception I just read about in My Life After Hate by Arno Michaels. Your very use of the n word and race traitor, puts you in the category of those he describes as brain washed by the hateful rhetoric of white supremacists.

 

[BulletProof]

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

Are you in the KKK? Why are you apologizing? Has your black husband ever apologized for all the crime and welfare sucking blacks do?

The KKK is a tiny minority of whites, and is hated by most whites. Black parasites are the majority of blacks.

 

[LOIE]

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

Are you in the KKK? Why are you apologizing? Has your black husband ever apologized for all the crime and welfare sucking blacks do?

The KKK is a tiny minority of whites, and is hated by most whites. Black parasites are the majority of blacks.

Easy to see you have entrenched stereotypes about blacks. I totally disagree that the majority of blacks are parasites. I am certainly not in the KKK, and my husband understands the underlying causes of crime and the need for welfare better than most, having lived his entire life in the inner city and seen the changes that have taken place over the years. Changes caused by disinvestment, removal of jobs, educational and recreational facilities and housing discrimination. Things done TO black folks, not BY them.

My apology comes from a place in my heart that cries over the fact that even in 2017 there is so much hatred in America. I read that one young black man said, "Why did they bring us here and then hate us?"

Good question, I think.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

AN APOLOGY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS – LONG OVERDUE

I couldn’t focus at work today. My mind kept taking me back to Charlottesville.

I kept seeing the hate in the eyes of the KKK, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazi protesters.

I kept hearing the voices of those who vowed to “take their country back” and rid it of all diversity and unity.

In my heart, I can find no other response but to apologize – for their hatred, for their violence, for their total ignorance of who you really are.

I am a white woman who has been married to a black man for 37 years.

I KNOW you are wonderful. I KNOW you are spiritual. I KNOW you are warm, loving and forgiving. I KNOW you deserve better. I KNOW you deserve an apology.

An apology from our nation, from our leaders and from every white person who has never spoken up against racism and the way you have been treated in this United States of America.

As one individual, I do apologize. Right here. Right now.

It may not help a lot. It may not change the course of history. It may not even make a crack in the wall that divides us. But still – I APOLOGIZE.

Delores Paulk

So, that almost sounded sincere. Do you apologize for the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, or the sinking of the Lusitania, as well? Please, you apology is as meaningless it is sycophantic pandering. I am sure you are sincere. What difference does it make?

Years ago "something told me" to go visit an elderly member of my church. I ignored that little voice in my head, did not go, and that night he passed away.

Now when I get that little voice in my head, like I did when I wrote this letter, I listen and act. As far as what good it does - that's not up to me. It's like tossing a rock into the water and waiting for the ripples. You never know. I gave a copy of this letter to a young man on the subway and he said, "Thanks a lot for that." Another lady I gave it to hugged me and said "That was very moving. Thank you."

I believe I am God's instrument in the world. He uses me however He wills.

Well you moved me. I suddenly feel the need to apologize to someone for sharing the world will a nincompoop like yourself.

It is not enough to apologize. You must sell your children to the nearest black man. You must undress and walk through the black neighborhoods in the nude. You have to sacrifice or what good is an apology.