Americans who fought in Fallujah watch Al Qaeda make Comeback

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The crack of gunfire shattered the quiet following afternoon prayers in Fallujah on Thursday, an Iraqi city that U.S. forces once wrested from al Qaeda-linked forces in fierce and bloody fighting and is now a fresh battleground for the terror group.

Inside the ancient city, just 43 miles from Baghdad, Iraqis are once again braced for a siege and say security has declined precipitously over the past year. On Thursday, Iraqi interior ministry officials declared that half of the city was occupied by a brutal wing of al Qaeda called the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

What little peace this city has seen in the past decade came at the expense of dozens of American Marines who fought al Qaeda-backed insurgents in two battles in 2004. They finally eliminated the al Qaeda forces in a house by house, alleyway by alleyway battle in which Marines had to contend with booby traps, roadside bombs and insurgents who fought with near suicidal determination.

"No one expected the level of ferocity we encountered in Fallujah," said Maj. Charleston Malkemus, a member of the Marines' First Batallion, the first division deployed to the city. "Insurgents and al Qaeda fighters flocked to the city and inserted themselves to take control, similar to what's going on now."

The second battle of Fallujah fought in the final months of 2004 was the greatest urban military operation involving U.S. troops since the battle for Hue City, Vietnam, in 1968.

By one estimate 36,000 of the city's 50,000 homes in Fallujah were laid to waste. More than 2,000 insurgents are believed to have been killed in the fighting, as were nearly 100 American troops.

Al Qaeda was routed from the city, but they have returned in force according to officials, leaving some Americans to wonder whether too many died in vain.

"It was all for naught," said Ross Ducati, a former Marine who fought in the second battle for the city and has since become an outspoken critic of U.S. intervention in Iraq. "Americans fought and died there -- my friends died there -- for the purposes of regime change and furthering business interests friendly to the Bush administration… [Now] Iraqis will die there to further the interests of [Prime Minister Nouri] al-Maliki's government."

But other Marines don't share that view, seeing the latest confrontation with al Qaeda as part of an ongoing struggle for freedom in Iraq and across the region.

"We can't sustain fighting from 3,000 miles away forever," said Malkemus. "At some point we had to turn things over to the Iraqis. Unfortunately, the Iraqi Army is struggling and needs to engage with the terrorists again in Fallujah.

"American men and women who fought and died can never be forsaken, and we don't forsake them by keeping up the fight," he said.

The security situation in Iraq has deteriorated in the past year. According to the U.N., 7,818 people were killed in 2013, the highest number in years.

Much of the recent sectarian violence has taken place in Anbar province, where Fallujah is located. Prime Minister Maliki's Shiite-controlled government has tried to contain the violence in the province, a majority Sunni region.

Against the backdrop of al Qaeda backed militias launching attacks on police statements and military bases, the government has also cracked down on peaceful Sunni protests and sit-ins and dismantled Sunni militias, including those unaffiliated with al Qaeda.

Americans Who Fought in Fallujah Watch al Qaeda Make Comeback - ABC News
 

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The capture of Fallujah by Al Quada is unsustainable. Over 90% of Iraq's population is against Al Quada regardless of ethnicity or religion. This will only provide terrorist and anti-Bush liberals something they like to cheer about temporarily.
 

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we should have NEVER gone to Iraq in the first place huh
 

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The capture of Fallujah by Al Quada is unsustainable. Over 90% of Iraq's population is against Al Quada regardless of ethnicity or religion. This will only provide terrorist and anti-Bush liberals something they like to cheer about temporarily.
An armed, violent, stop at nothing terrorist group like Al Qaeda is most certainly capable of sustaining itself in Iraq.
90% of Iraq's population might be against Al Qaeda, but what are they actually prepared to do about it?
Arm themselves to the teeth and fight to the death to drive AQ out?
Or just meekly allow AQ to takeover like it did before and does everywhere else in the Muslim world?

IMO many Americans and C.O.W troops died for absolutely nothing in Iraq...and in Afghanistan.
 
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"Mission Accomplished"
While Iraq and Libya have seen regime change, we're still waiting on Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, and Iran.

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years..."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe on Hillary's watch?
 

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"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency."

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba
 

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The capture of Fallujah by Al Quada is unsustainable. Over 90% of Iraq's population is against Al Quada regardless of ethnicity or religion. This will only provide terrorist and anti-Bush liberals something they like to cheer about temporarily.
An armed, violent, stop at nothing terrorist group like Al Qaeda is most certainly capable of sustaining itself in Iraq.
90% of Iraq's population might be against Al Qaeda, but what are they actually prepared to do about it?
Arm themselves to the teeth and fight to the death to drive AQ out?
Or just meekly allow AQ to takeover like it did before and does everywhere else in the Muslim world?

IMO many Americans and C.O.W troops died for absolutely nothing in Iraq...and in Afghanistan.
In the 1970s, the IRA took over large parts of Belfast Northern Ireland temporarily. Does that mean that the British Army and Government were weak and about to crumble. Look at Belfast today! Fallugah will be no different.

The Iraqi military and police have been in the trenches trying to rebuild and restore their country after the removal of Saddam. They are holding their own now, even without the support of the American military.

Many Americans sacrificed in Iraq and Afghanistan in ways most will never know. The country and the world are safer and more prosperous because of it. They helped rebuild Iraq from the ashes of Saddam and safeguard the vital oil supplies of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia that is so vital to the United States Economy as well as the global economy.
 

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"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency."

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba
Will see how tough your beloved Al Quada is in the weeks and months ahead. Maliki crushed Iranian backed Al Sadr's forces in southern Iraq, Al Quada in Fallujah will fair no better.
 

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we should have NEVER gone to Iraq in the first place huh
Its good for the world and the United States that Saddam's regime was removed. The oil from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is more safe and secure than it has ever been and that oil is vital to the United States and global economy. Plus, now Iraq is producing more oil for the world market now that it is free of Saddam and free of international sanctions! That additional oil helps meet global demand which keeps prices from rising out of control, which impacts the price of food you put in your mouth every day!
 

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"Al-Qaeda-linked militants took control of the central areas of the city of Fallujah in Iraq, an Al Arabiya correspondent reported on Saturday.

"The reports came as a senior security official in the western Anbar province said the Iraqi government had lost control of the city to the militants.

"'Fallujah is under the control of ISIL,' the official said, referring to al-Qaeda-linked group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

The al-Qaeda fighters have seized military equipment provided by the U.S. Marines to Fallujah police, whose headquarters have been taken over, Uthman Mohamed, a local reporter in the city in Iraq’s western Anbar province, told Bloomberg news agency."

Iraq government loses control of Fallujah | Al Bawaba
Will see how tough your beloved Al Quada is in the weeks and months ahead. Maliki crushed Iranian backed Al Sadr's forces in southern Iraq, Al Quada in Fallujah will fair no better.
Maliki is just another corrupt US puppet in the same mold as Karzai or Saddam. His principle goal is to steal as much money as possible before "retirement" in Switzerland

"Iraq has spent $37 billion on electricity since 2003 ' the sum is more than the annual budgets of both Jordan and Lebanon put together' still the current state of power supplies as most parts of the country still suffer from protracted power outages.[52]

"Iraq ranked the 8th position as one of the most corrupted countries in the world in 2012.[53]

"Male children out of primary school from 2003 to 2007 increased 3 folds [54]

"Human rights conditions in Iraq remain poor, particularly for detainees, journalists, activists, and women and girls. Security forces continued to arbitrarily detain and torture detainees, holding some in secret jails. Iraq security forces respond to peaceful protest with intimidation, threats, violence, and arrests.[55]

"Outstanding failure to stop Al-Qaeda and Shiite militias violence specially in 2012 and 2013 which witnessed a daily car bombings, assassinations, kidnapping and even prisons breaks.[56]

"6 million Iraqis are still living below the poverty line according to UN Assistance Mission for Iraq, “ UNAMI "

Nouri al-Maliki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mission Accomplished?
 

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Crayz $$$grubbing neo-cons, but they dinn't care, you know, they got theirs.
 
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Who didn't see this coming?? .... :cool:
Why Sunni ... I'm shocked! For one who claims to be a "patriotic American Muslim" you sure sound like you're gloating.
Nope.

History will view the U.S. invasion of Iraq and the subsequent occupation as a fools errand instigated by Israel.

I am just ahead of the curve. ..... :cool:
 
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Who didn't see this coming?? .... :cool:
Ex president Bush when he started the war that allowed that allowed extremist elements into Iraq where they were none before?
Much as Saddam was a total bastard, the invasion was as stupid as it was illegal because this was always on the cards but Bush and his moronic lot were far too stupid to see it.
 
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Indofred

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Who didn't see this coming?? .... :cool:
Why Sunni ... I'm shocked! For one who claims to be a "patriotic American Muslim" you sure sound like you're gloating.
Why is pointing out the stupidity of a war, unpatriotic?
Thousands of Americans have been killed , many places are unsafe for Americans to visit and America is a potential target from extremists, all because of stupid American foreign policy.
Bush and the hawks are the unpatriotic ones as they've put Americans in danger with their stupidity.
 

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