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American Students Still In Afghanistan....As Biden Continues To Try to 'Turn The Page'

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When did they go to Afghanistan? There have been level 4 travel warnings on Afghanistan for years.
Why don't you look it up...or ask Blinken who recently acknowledge some ate still there, which is why the State Dept reportedly met with the Taliban, insisted they give our folks are passage out, & we would give them 'humanitarian relief aid'.
 

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Why don't you look it up...or ask Blinken who recently acknowledge some ate still there, which is why the State Dept reportedly met with the Taliban, insisted they give our folks
are passage out, & we would give them 'humanitarian relief aid'.


There are two groups... American University of Afghanistan students and
grade school students with their parents. The US doesn't have jurisdiction over either group.
 
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There are two groups... American University of Afghanistan students and
grade school students with their parents. The US doesn't have jurisdiction over either group.
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2. Not the group being discussed being left behind by Blinken & the State Dept
 

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1. Link

2. Not the group being discussed being left behind by Blinken & the State Dept

Every discussion with you has to start from scratch.. You never bother with the facts or even try to follow events.
 

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From 2014, Sen. John McCain floor speech opposing nomination of Tony Blinken.

"We will see the same movie in Afghanistan that we saw in Iraq if we have a date-driven withdrawal rather than a status-driven, conditions-driven situation."

Full video here: Senator John McCain on Tony Blinken Nomination


 
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Every discussion with you has to start from scratch.. You never bother with the facts or even try to follow events.
Gee, I was thinking the same about you, nut bag, as you have repeatedly posted questions on this board exposing the fact that you have no clue what is going on from time to time and rarely post any supporting link or Information to support your truly troubling opinions.
 
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From 2014, Sen. John McCain floor speech opposing nomination of Tony Blinken.

"We will see the same movie in Afghanistan that we saw in Iraq if we have a date-driven withdrawal rather than a status-driven, conditions-driven situation."

Full video here: Senator John McCain on Tony Blinken Nomination


So McCain predicted Biden's fucked up withdrawal execution is what you're saying.... Nice.
 

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So McCain predicted Biden's fucked up withdrawal execution is what you're saying.... Nice.

No.. he was speaking of Blinken.

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.
Afghanistan Travel Advisory
travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html

 
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No.. he was speaking of Blinken.

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.
Afghanistan Travel Advisory
travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html

You have no idea what article and meeting I was talking about...You falsely claimed there were no Americans in Afghanistan...now you claim to be an expert...and right?

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You have no idea what article and meeting I was talking about...You falsely claimed there were no Americans in Afghanistan...now you claim to be an expert...and right?

:auiqs.jpg:

I never said there were no Americans in Afghanistan.

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.
Afghanistan Travel Advisory


 

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Who is 'they.'

Your post makes no sense in relation to what I wrote.

Presumably those children have parents. Why didn't they leave in the past 20 months or so?

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.

Afghanistan Travel Advisory

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html


 

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Presumably those children have parents. Why didn't they leave in the past 20 months or so?

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.

Afghanistan Travel Advisory

travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html


Again, I don't know. Nor do you or anyone else for that matter. Do you have a point with that question though? WHY they are there does not address our failure to properly secure an exit stratagy for those that were there when we left. There would be an argument to be had that this is all on them had we done an orderly withdrawal and gave all our allies, citizens and Afghani's we were working with time and opportunity to evacuate.

Instead we did none of that. What they were there for does not alleviate us of our basic responsibility to do shit correctly particularly when failing to do so means torture and death. It very well means that for a many people left behind.

That anyone anywhere is trying to justify that colossal fuckup of a withdrawal is nonsensical.
 

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Again, I don't know. Nor do you or anyone else for that matter. Do you have a point with that question though? WHY they are there does not address our failure to properly secure an exit stratagy for those that were there when we left. There would be an argument to be had that this is all on them had we done an orderly withdrawal and gave all our allies, citizens and Afghani's we were working with time and opportunity to evacuate.

Instead we did none of that. What they were there for does not alleviate us of our basic responsibility to do shit correctly particularly when failing to do so means torture and death. It very well means that for a many people left behind.

That anyone anywhere is trying to justify that colossal fuckup of a withdrawal is nonsensical.

They have had 18 months to evacuate.

The US has no authority to force American civilians to leave.
 

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They have had 18 months to evacuate.

The US has no authority to force American civilians to leave.
Who said anything about forcing them to do anything.

What I did say is that your asinine excuse is just that, asinine. It is only valid IF we conducted a withdrawal that gave people time to evacuate. Instead you got a withdrawal so disorganized we were pulling body parts out of the wheel wells of our aircraft.

The nation collapse overnight with our people waking up one day on the wrong side of the line. After being promised that we would not allow that to happen, that they would have time and that there was no indications that the nation would fall so rapidly, a lie of course. And again, the focus on this tiny number of people is utterly irrelevant. The FACT is that we left allies and Afghanis we were working with and promised to get out of there. Afghanis that worked with the US are going to be brutalized and killed.

That is flatly unacceptable.
 

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Wow, you are really defensive about how Biden fucked up the withdrawal, left Americans & allies behind, and have driven off support from long-time allies.

Naw, man, he put an end to a fiasco. Good for him.

The withdrawal was fine, except it didn't happen soon enough.
 

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Who said anything about forcing them to do anything.

What I did say is that your asinine excuse is just that, asinine. It is only valid IF we conducted a withdrawal that gave people time to evacuate. Instead you got a withdrawal so disorganized we were pulling body parts out of the wheel wells of our aircraft.

They were warned back in April that Afghanistan was no longer safe for Americans. They chose to stay anyway. How much time did they really need?

Anyone stupid enough to grab onto the landing gear of a jet while it is taking off deserves to be subject to Natural Selection. You dumb, you die! Pass out the Darwin Awards

The nation collapse overnight with our people waking up one day on the wrong side of the line. After being promised that we would not allow that to happen, that they would have time and that there was no indications that the nation would fall so rapidly, a lie of course. And again, the focus on this tiny number of people is utterly irrelevant. The FACT is that we left allies and Afghanis we were working with and promised to get out of there. Afghanis that worked with the US are going to be brutalized and killed.

So what? Frankly, I can't feel bad for them. They decided to be quislings against what the majority of their neighbors wanted.

The real problem is we decided to insert ourselves into a civil war that had been raging since the 1970's because one side hid some people we didn't like.
 

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Who said anything about forcing them to do anything.

What I did say is that your asinine excuse is just that, asinine. It is only valid IF we conducted a withdrawal that gave people time to evacuate. Instead you got a withdrawal so disorganized we were pulling body parts out of the wheel wells of our aircraft.

The nation collapse overnight with our people waking up one day on the wrong side of the line. After being promised that we would not allow that to happen, that they would have time and that there was no indications that the nation would fall so rapidly, a lie of course. And again, the focus on this tiny number of people is utterly irrelevant. The FACT is that we left allies and Afghanis we were working with and promised to get out of there. Afghanis that worked with the US are going to be brutalized and killed.

That is flatly unacceptable.

The truth is that the withdrawal began in Feb 20202 when Trump drew down from 13,000 troops to 2500.. leaving too few to protect Bagram or the road to Bagram. NOTHING was done on those special visas for Afghani collaborators.

Families leave war zones. They don't send their kids for a vacation when the State department is warning of kidnappings, pitched gunbattles and kidnappings for ransom.
 

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The truth is that the withdrawal began in Feb 20202 when Trump drew down from 13,000 troops to 2500.. leaving too few to protect Bagram or the road to Bagram. NOTHING was done on those special visas for Afghani collaborators.

Families leave war zones. They don't send their kids for a vacation when the State department is warning of kidnappings, pitched gunbattles and kidnappings for ransom.
Still feel the need to invent circumstances you know literally nothing about and now we are trying to blame Trump for Biden's fuckups.

When the but Trump card comes out you have nothing left. Same bullshit when the but Obama excuse was on the lips of every Trump sycophant. Biden royally fucked up the withdrawal. You know it. I know it. The entire fucking world knows it and openly states it.
 

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Still feel the need to invent circumstances you know literally nothing about and now we are trying to blame Trump for Biden's fuckups.

When the but Trump card comes out you have nothing left. Same bullshit when the but Obama excuse was on the lips of every Trump sycophant. Biden royally fucked up the withdrawal. You know it. I know it. The entire fucking world knows it and openly states it.

The only thing Biden did wrong was give the War Profiteers more time to exit the country. He never should have taken responsibility for them. "You are an American in Afghanistan, you are on your own." Period. Full Stop.
 

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