American agencies have 6 weeks to get into the public conscious the dangers of particular politicians. Once Jan 20th hits, China is in Pole Position

shockedcanadian

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For me, day in and day out. Hold news conferences if they must to ensure that there is media coverage and eyes on the issue so it can't be swept under the rug. China is going to go very hard, this is the Russia of the 1980s but exponentially more entrenched and bold with full access to global markets.

A coup in intelligence work is to always let your enemies believe what is wrong and to do your work for them. Such as, say, pushing a Russian Dossier from an apparent "allied nation" source like a UK citizen (anyone ever do a full sweep of this sources background?), or some other source that convinces someone to work an angle, when the real threat is over there, and succeeding, as you chase rabbits.

It's the greatest of coups to have their foreign enemies do damage to themselves while they apply effort from a source far removed or, right under their eyes but for which they trust. Whether Russia, Russia, or focusing on an impeachment as a virus lands on your shores. All of these decisions and pursuits, trumpeted by MSM have helped China, and I have to wonder if that was the objective. I knew it was going to be the outcome, only now do I consider how deliberate it might have been.

Many times politicians don't understand they are being used. Worse, many times intelligence agencies and agents don't understand. Other times politicians might suspect, but use culpable deniability or undermine the danger, even arrogantly overestimate their own ability to control a situation, because they have a sole desire for power. The more power, the higher up the chain they can go, the greater the position, the less they care about consequences for others, even their own nation.

It seems to me that California has to be a hot spot for efforts from China, along with NY I imagine. It's easy to support what seems a well meaning policy, group or ideal, "hey, who doesn't like peace and equality!"? It's not always so simple when one untangles the yarn back to a foreign government source that is benefiting. Sometimes even a cop, or someone related to a cop, can be the worst enemy to a nation.

I always refer back to the Cambridge Five in England. With America listening to and becoming closer to England over the years, don't think for a moment America is immune from such high level infiltration from foreign spies. If they are going to apply full effort, it will be over the next few years after the last few years of massive success on a scale never seen, so, U.S intelligence better be louder and ensure independence. They better understand what they are up against.
 
For me, day in and day out. Hold news conferences if they must to ensure that there is media coverage and eyes on the issue so it can't be swept under the rug. China is going to go very hard, this is the Russia of the 1980s but exponentially more entrenched and bold with full access to global markets.

A coup in intelligence work is to always let your enemies believe what is wrong and to do your work for them. Such as, say, pushing a Russian Dossier from an apparent "allied nation" source like a UK citizen (anyone ever do a full sweep of this sources background?), or some other source that convinces someone to work an angle, when the real threat is over there, and succeeding, as you chase rabbits.

It's the greatest of coups to have their foreign enemies do damage to themselves while they apply effort from a source far removed or, right under their eyes but for which they trust. Whether Russia, Russia, or focusing on an impeachment as a virus lands on your shores. All of these decisions and pursuits, trumpeted by MSM have helped China, and I have to wonder if that was the objective. I knew it was going to be the outcome, only now do I consider how deliberate it might have been.

Many times politicians don't understand they are being used. Worse, many times intelligence agencies and agents don't understand. Other times politicians might suspect, but use culpable deniability or undermine the danger, even arrogantly overestimate their own ability to control a situation, because they have a sole desire for power. The more power, the higher up the chain they can go, the greater the position, the less they care about consequences for others, even their own nation.

It seems to me that California has to be a hot spot for efforts from China, along with NY I imagine. It's easy to support what seems a well meaning policy, group or ideal, "hey, who doesn't like peace and equality!"? It's not always so simple when one untangles the yarn back to a foreign government source that is benefiting. Sometimes even a cop, or someone related to a cop, can be the worst enemy to a nation.

I always refer back to the Cambridge Five in England. With America listening to and becoming closer to England over the years, don't think for a moment America is immune from such high level infiltration from foreign spies. If they are going to apply full effort, it will be over the next few years after the last few years of massive success on a scale never seen, so, U.S intelligence better be louder and ensure independence. They better understand what they are up against.
This belongs in Conspiracy theories; it's baseless speculation devoid of merit.
 
The threat that China poses to the US and the world dwarfs all other global threats combined. They kidnap and kill their own people if they are deemed a problem for the State.

They have two of our citizens (probably many more, but two getting media coverage), they've warned the world "we can't ensure the safety of your citizens if they are in Hong Kong".

All of this direct, loud and boisterous postering projects to me one extreme or the other, either they are really confident in their global position and influence, or, they feel threatened and weaker then they present themselves.

Considering how quickly they went into Hong Kong and how brazen they are to publicly blame the U.S military for the virus. How easily they shut down the W.H.O allowing Taiwan in, and denied inspectors access to Wuhan.

Yes, the nation some of us have been warning other about, is THAT nation. Even to my surprise, they are far worse and entrenched than expected.
 
Did you people miss this story five years ago and for some reason are acting like it is a current event?
 
Did you people miss this story five years ago and for some reason are acting like it is a current event?

This is one story....of MANY.

Why in the hell don't people care more? Will it take someone working in a nuclear facility for people to realize what is going on?
 
Dang!

I hope that the American government will not eventually put all Chinese Americans in "relocation camps," as it did to Japanese Americans who were living in California during World War II.
 
For me, day in and day out. Hold news conferences if they must to ensure that there is media coverage and eyes on the issue so it can't be swept under the rug. China is going to go very hard, this is the Russia of the 1980s but exponentially more entrenched and bold with full access to global markets.

A coup in intelligence work is to always let your enemies believe what is wrong and to do your work for them. Such as, say, pushing a Russian Dossier from an apparent "allied nation" source like a UK citizen (anyone ever do a full sweep of this sources background?), or some other source that convinces someone to work an angle, when the real threat is over there, and succeeding, as you chase rabbits.

It's the greatest of coups to have their foreign enemies do damage to themselves while they apply effort from a source far removed or, right under their eyes but for which they trust. Whether Russia, Russia, or focusing on an impeachment as a virus lands on your shores. All of these decisions and pursuits, trumpeted by MSM have helped China, and I have to wonder if that was the objective. I knew it was going to be the outcome, only now do I consider how deliberate it might have been.

Many times politicians don't understand they are being used. Worse, many times intelligence agencies and agents don't understand. Other times politicians might suspect, but use culpable deniability or undermine the danger, even arrogantly overestimate their own ability to control a situation, because they have a sole desire for power. The more power, the higher up the chain they can go, the greater the position, the less they care about consequences for others, even their own nation.

It seems to me that California has to be a hot spot for efforts from China, along with NY I imagine. It's easy to support what seems a well meaning policy, group or ideal, "hey, who doesn't like peace and equality!"? It's not always so simple when one untangles the yarn back to a foreign government source that is benefiting. Sometimes even a cop, or someone related to a cop, can be the worst enemy to a nation.

I always refer back to the Cambridge Five in England. With America listening to and becoming closer to England over the years, don't think for a moment America is immune from such high level infiltration from foreign spies. If they are going to apply full effort, it will be over the next few years after the last few years of massive success on a scale never seen, so, U.S intelligence better be louder and ensure independence. They better understand what they are up against.
Let's harass the Right Wing to come up with fine and wonderful, free market Capitalism solutions like they allege they can in Socialism threads!
 
Dang!

I hope that the American government will not eventually put all Chinese Americans in "relocation camps," as it did to Japanese Americans who were living in California during World War II.

Let's not be foolish with this. Agencies too often think it's wiser to do things in the shadow, because somehow they are all knowing and everywhere. Only a real fool would believe this would be effecitve at this point.

This requires a national, and really an international understanding of what is at stake. Shine a light on what China is doing in their own country to their citizens and what they are doing around the globe. Expose to the world that their governments are being compromised, influenced and in many cases, enticed to betray their own citizens.

Consumers can do their part, but it requires a greater understanding by citizens. This isn't the time to monopolize information.
 
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