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The agape being taught in Church with its meaning of 'unconditional' love, is pretty 'wrong'.
There was a Church sermon of 'agape' and Peter and Christ and how Christ asked Peter, 'do you 'agape' me'? Peter replies, 'Lord, you know I 'phileo' you'....
In other words, Christ asks Peter, according to Church teaching, 'Do you unconditionally love me'? Peter responds, 'You know I'm [down] with you, I'm hip with you'.
However... take a look yourself.
(J)ohn 21:16
Cognate: 25 agapáō – properly, to prefer, to love; for the believer, preferring to "live through Christ" (1 Jn 4:9,10), i.e. embracing God's will (choosing His choices) and obeying them through His power. 25 (agapáō) preeminently refers to what God prefers as He "is love" (1 Jn 4:8,16). See 26 (agapē).
So basically, Christ was asking Peter, 'Peter, do you prefer me; do you choose me more than you do to these others'?
Peter responded, 'Lord, You know that I have deep affection and regard towards You'.
Do you 'agapao'? Do you 'love'? Do you 'love' enough to 'do' rather than just 'hear'?
(J)ames 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."
Mother Teresa once said, 'How can you say that you love God Whom you do not see when you do not love your neighbor whom you do see'?
In other words, 'do you love, (agapao), your mom and dad more than just being 'hearers' of what 'love' IS'?
Ephesians 6:2 "Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise; )"
Ephesians 6:3 "That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."
There was a Church sermon of 'agape' and Peter and Christ and how Christ asked Peter, 'do you 'agape' me'? Peter replies, 'Lord, you know I 'phileo' you'....
In other words, Christ asks Peter, according to Church teaching, 'Do you unconditionally love me'? Peter responds, 'You know I'm [down] with you, I'm hip with you'.
However... take a look yourself.
(J)ohn 21:16
25. agapaó |
Strong's Concordance agapaó: to love Original Word: ἀγαπάωPart of Speech: Verb Transliteration: agapaó Phonetic Spelling: (ag-ap-ah'-o) Definition: to love Usage: I love, wish well to, take pleasure in, long for; denotes the love of reason, esteem. |
Cognate: 25 agapáō – properly, to prefer, to love; for the believer, preferring to "live through Christ" (1 Jn 4:9,10), i.e. embracing God's will (choosing His choices) and obeying them through His power. 25 (agapáō) preeminently refers to what God prefers as He "is love" (1 Jn 4:8,16). See 26 (agapē).
5368. phileó |
Strong's Concordance phileó: to love Original Word: φιλέωPart of Speech: Verb Transliteration: phileó Phonetic Spelling: (fil-eh'-o) Definition: to love Usage: I love (of friendship), regard with affection, cherish; I kiss. |
So basically, Christ was asking Peter, 'Peter, do you prefer me; do you choose me more than you do to these others'?
Peter responded, 'Lord, You know that I have deep affection and regard towards You'.
Do you 'agapao'? Do you 'love'? Do you 'love' enough to 'do' rather than just 'hear'?
(J)ames 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."
Mother Teresa once said, 'How can you say that you love God Whom you do not see when you do not love your neighbor whom you do see'?
In other words, 'do you love, (agapao), your mom and dad more than just being 'hearers' of what 'love' IS'?
Ephesians 6:2 "Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise; )"
Ephesians 6:3 "That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth."
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