Adam Smith and Karl Marx criticized the failures of Capitalism

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This came up in another thread, only ignorant Republican and Fox News watching morons do not understand the most basic premises these economists wrote about.

What is happening in America today is criminal and it is the 1% "Capitalist" class starving the vast majority of the working class into poverty and disenfranchisement from ownership.

Let's take a look at what Smith wrote in Chapter 11;

[261] The interest of the second order, that of those who live by wages, is as strictly connected with the interest of the society as that of the first. The wages of the labourer, it has already been shown, are never so high as when the demand for labour is continually rising, or when the quantity employed is every year increasing considerably. When this real wealth of the society becomes stationary, his wages are soon reduced to what is barely enough to enable him to bring up a family, or to continue the race of labourers. When the society declines, they fall even below this. The order of proprietors may, perhaps, gain more by the prosperity of the society than that of labourers: but there is no order that suffers so cruelly from its decline. But though the interest of the labourer is strictly connected with that of the society, he is incapable either of comprehending that interest or of understanding its connection with his own. His condition leaves him no time to receive the necessary information, and his education and habits are commonly such as to render him unfit to judge even though he was fully informed. In the public deliberations, therefore, his voice is little heard and less regarded, except upon some particular occasions, when his clamour is animated, set on and supported by his employers, not for his, but their own particular purposes.
Adam Smith Wealth of Nations Book 1 Chapter 11 The Rent of Land

The demand for men necessarily governs the production of men, as of every other commodity. Should supply greatly exceed demand, a section of the workers sinks into beggary or starvation. The worker’s existence is thus brought under the same condition as the existence of every other commodity. The worker has become a commodity, and it is a bit of luck for him if he can find a buyer. And the demand on which the life of the worker depends, depends on the whim of the rich and the capitalists
Marx 1844 Wages of Labour

Uh oh! You mean they agreed about this fundamental premise?
 

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This came up in another thread, only ignorant Republican and Fox News watching morons do not understand the most basic premises these economists wrote about.

What is happening in America today is criminal and it is the 1% "Capitalist" class starving the vast majority of the working class into poverty and disenfranchisement from ownership.

Let's take a look at what Smith wrote in Chapter 11;

[261] The interest of the second order, that of those who live by wages, is as strictly connected with the interest of the society as that of the first. The wages of the labourer, it has already been shown, are never so high as when the demand for labour is continually rising, or when the quantity employed is every year increasing considerably. When this real wealth of the society becomes stationary, his wages are soon reduced to what is barely enough to enable him to bring up a family, or to continue the race of labourers. When the society declines, they fall even below this. The order of proprietors may, perhaps, gain more by the prosperity of the society than that of labourers: but there is no order that suffers so cruelly from its decline. But though the interest of the labourer is strictly connected with that of the society, he is incapable either of comprehending that interest or of understanding its connection with his own. His condition leaves him no time to receive the necessary information, and his education and habits are commonly such as to render him unfit to judge even though he was fully informed. In the public deliberations, therefore, his voice is little heard and less regarded, except upon some particular occasions, when his clamour is animated, set on and supported by his employers, not for his, but their own particular purposes.
Adam Smith Wealth of Nations Book 1 Chapter 11 The Rent of Land

The demand for men necessarily governs the production of men, as of every other commodity. Should supply greatly exceed demand, a section of the workers sinks into beggary or starvation. The worker’s existence is thus brought under the same condition as the existence of every other commodity. The worker has become a commodity, and it is a bit of luck for him if he can find a buyer. And the demand on which the life of the worker depends, depends on the whim of the rich and the capitalists
Marx 1844 Wages of Labour

Uh oh! You mean they agreed about this fundamental premise?
What fundamental premise? That you confuse economics with ideology?
 

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