Abortion should be banned in the United States

[JoeB131]

Then, of course, you would have to explain this....and you never do, no matter how often you see it...

In 6 years, after doing what you wanted in the 1920s, regulating, banning and confiscating guns, the governments of Europe went on to murder 15 million innocent men, women and children, over 1 million children. These were not war dead, these were people rounded up by the socialists, marched into forests and camps, and murdered.

the governments of Europe? Really?
You mean one country that had become highly militarized.

War sucks. Every war has attrocities and if anything, guns make them worse.

 

[2aguy]

the governments of Europe? Really?
You mean one country that had become highly militarized.

War sucks. Every war has attrocities and if anything, guns make them worse.

Doesn't matter....that one country murdered 15 million people across all of Europe...except for Switzerland because they didn't give up their guns and had 435,000 civilians ready to fight against any invasion.

The Germans could never have occupied the countries they occupied if they met resistance like the Swiss......but the governments of Europe did what you want us to do....they gave up their guns, and the Germans occupied them without consequence....and murdered 15 million civilians.......

 

[JoeB131]

Doesn't matter....that one country murdered 15 million people across all of Europe...except for Switzerland because they didn't give up their guns and had 435,000 civilians ready to fight against any invasion.

Switzerland didn't get invaded because the fuckers gleefully cashed in the gold extracted from the teeth of the victims... there was nothing noble there.

Hitler didn't invade Switzerland for the same reason he didn't invade Sweden, Monaco, Spain, Portugal, or Turkey.

He didn't need to or he didn't see a good reason to.

 

[Esdraelon]

So pro-lifer, you oppose the death penalty?

Lame. If you're serious this means your moral compass equates the MOST innocent among us with those who are the most heinous among us. No difference there for you, huh?

 

[2aguy]

Switzerland didn't get invaded because the fuckers gleefully cashed in the gold extracted from the teeth of the victims... there was nothing noble there.

Hitler didn't invade Switzerland for the same reason he didn't invade Sweden, Monaco, Spain, Portugal, or Turkey.

He didn't need to or he didn't see a good reason to.

Switzerland didnt get invaded because the cost was too high....435,000 armed civilians

 

[Coyote]

Lame. If you're serious this means your moral compass equates the MOST innocent among us with those who are the most heinous among us. No difference there for you, huh?

Innocent people have been exonerated on death row. Innocent people have been executed. Innocent is innocent. In fact, the death penalty is worse. An innocent person knows exactly what is happening. Knows he is going to die, knows he is innocent, every single day. And when killed, he dies knowing he was innocent, and he anticipates it and feels it. An embryo doesn't.

 

[Coyote]

Switzerland didnt get invaded because the cost was too high....435,000 armed civilians

Bull crap. It was never invaded because of its mountainous topography.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Innocent people have been exonerated on death row. Innocent people have been executed. Innocent is innocent. In fact, the death penalty is worse. An innocent person knows exactly what is happening. Knows he is going to die, knows he is innocent, every single day. And when killed, he dies knowing he was innocent, and he anticipates it and feels it. An embryo doesn't.

You’ve stated a flaw that means that the death penalty should only be used when there is absolute certainty of the perpetrator’s guilt. This doesn’t mean that those guilty of heinous crimes shouldn’t die as justice for their innocent victims.

Then you try to justify killing those innocent victims. It’s frankly horrific bullshit.

And if all you care about is current awareness, then any serial killer should just be allowed to sedate and anesthetize his targets, then it would be fine to kill them. They don’t anticipate or feel the death, so I guess no harm, right?

 

[2aguy]

Bull crap. It was never invaded because of its mountainous topography.

Wrong.....that only played a part....the rest of it was the fact they had 435,000 people with rifles and a determination to fight....

That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million.

Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms.


Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.



Every Allied country and every neutral country had deplorable policies that turned away refugees. The Swiss government, like the U.S. government, accepted some Jews fleeing the Holocaust and, unfortunately, expelled others.

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[Coyote]

You’ve stated a flaw that means that the death penalty should only be used when there is absolute certainty of the perpetrator’s guilt. This doesn’t mean that those guilty of heinous crimes shouldn’t die as justice for their innocent victims.

Every case a jury is absolutly certain. If you support the death penalty, you support tve killing of innocent life.

Then you try to justify killing those innocent victims. It’s frankly horrific bullshit.

d if all you care about is current awareness, then any serial killer should just be allowed to sedate and anesthetize his targets, then it would be fine to kill them. They don’t anticipate or feel the death, so I guess no harm, right?

No. Just pointing out your rampant hypocrisy on tip of your misogyny

Your last statement makes no sense since I'm talking about the execution of an innocent person.

 

[JoeB131]

Switzerland didnt get invaded because the cost was too high....435,000 armed civilians

Nope. Switzerland didn't get invaded because they were fucking collaborators. Their leaders should have been in the dock at Nuremburg right next to the Nazis.

Swiss found culpable of 'helping Nazis'

A report by an independent inquiry into Switzerland's second world war history concludes that Swiss officials "helped the Nazi regime achieve its goals" by closing the country's borders to thousands of Jewish refugees, effectively sending them back to near certain death.

www.theguardian.com

A report by an independent inquiry into Switzerland's second world war history concludes that Swiss officials "helped the Nazi regime achieve its goals" by closing the country's borders to thousands of Jewish refugees, effectively sending them back to near certain death.

The findings of the multinational Independent Commission of Experts, led by a Swiss historian, Jean-François Bergier, and established by the Swiss parliament three years ago, have shaken Switzerland's prim view of itself as an unsullied, neutral, safe-haven that resisted Nazi oppression.


It's second report - the first, in 1998, covered Nazi gold transfers to Switzerland - was published yesterday, sparking a bitter political row and internal debate that could affect next week's reappointment of the cabinet, the federal council.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Every case a jury is absolutly certain. If you support the death penalty, you support tve killing of innocent life.

And yet there ARE cases where there is zero doubt whatsoever of the guilt of the heinous criminal.

No. Just pointing out your rampant hypocrisy on tip of your misogyny

Do you ever cease or even get fatigued with yourself, with your constant lies, misinformation, and the general retardation you spew?

There is no inherent hypocrisy in punishing the guilty for murder, and... checks notes... Ah yes - opposing murder.

You literally promote murder of the innocent.

Your last statement makes no sense since I'm talking about the execution of an innocent person.

Sure. Let's call you an "innocent person," for sake of example, despite the fact you're pro-abort scum.

If someone were to abduct you, sedate you, anesthetize you, then slit your throat, you'd have no awareness whatsoever of your death, so I guess you're cool with that.

We wouldn't want any hypocrisy round here, after all.

 

[Coyote]

Check your notes again and stop trying to weasel out of your support for the death penalty by pretending it is something something else.

Be honest enough to admit you are a hypocrite who's concern for rights and (innocent) life is very limited. Hell, you don't even feel a woman has the right to save her own life or health.

 

[MarathonMike]

"Abortion Rights" means the right for a woman to have unprotected sex. That being said, forcing the woman to have a baby she doesn't want leads to other problems. If I were King, I would decree a 10 week abortion limit for the whole country.

 

[JoeB131]

"Abortion Rights" means the right for a woman to have unprotected sex. That being said, forcing the woman to have a baby she doesn't want leads to other problems. If I were King, I would decree a 10 week abortion limit for the whole country.

It's a good thing you aren't king, then.

Some women don't realize they are pregnant at 10 weeks. They are barely showing, and maybe they didn't pay attention to the periods they missed.

But here's the real problem with attempt to ban abortion, you forgot what the world was like before Roe v. Wade.

The laws didn't work then, they certainly won't work after 50 years of people being used to having easy access.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Freak Farm Ass Clowns "

* Blathering Idiocy By Puritanical Prudes *

"Abortion Rights" means the right for a woman to have unprotected sex. That being said, forcing the woman to have a baby she doesn't want leads to other problems. If I were King, I would decree a 10 week abortion limit for the whole country.

The mental midgets already ignore " with cause " abortion and are upset that 90% of down syndrome fetus are aborted as they demand people produce and surrogate a fleet of deformities .

Lethal Developmental Defects: An Overview

About 3% of all conceptions are associated with major congenital malformations, many of them are lethal developmental defect and genetic in origin or teratogenic (adverse effects of the environment during gametogenesis or early embryogenesis). Genetics with or without adverse environment has...

www.scirp.org

About 3% of all conceptions are associated with major congenital malformations, many of them are lethal developmental defect and genetic in origin or teratogenic (adverse effects of the envi- ronment during gametogenesis or early embryogenesis).

Ultrasound detection of fetal developmental defects/malformation is common now and often decision on pregnancy solely based on ultrasonic morphological description.

Obstetric ultrasonography - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The International Society of Ultrasound in Obstetrics and Gynecology (ISUOG) recommends that pregnant women have routine obstetric ultrasounds between 18 weeks' and 22 weeks' gestational age (the anatomy scan) in order to confirm pregnancy dating, to measure the fetus so that growth abnormalities can be recognized quickly later in pregnancy, and to assess for congenital malformations and multiple pregnancies (twins, etc).[1] Additionally, the ISUOG recommends that pregnant patients who desire genetic testing have obstetric ultrasounds between 11 weeks' and 13 weeks 6 days' gestational age in countries with resources to perform them (the nuchal scan).

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Blood Lust Of Psychopaths "

* Whimsical Standards *

And yet there ARE cases where there is zero doubt whatsoever of the guilt of the heinous criminal.

You have previously stated that women who have an abortion should be executed as heinous criminals .

* Consternation Of Uniform Fetish Melodrama *

There is no inherent hypocrisy in punishing the guilty for murder, and... checks notes... Ah yes - opposing murder .
You literally promote murder of the innocent.
Sure. Let's call you an "innocent person," for sake of example, despite the fact you're pro-abort scum.

Elective abortion is not murder or unethical , and women do not naturally seek " without cause " abortion when " with cause " abortion are valid .

* Dullard Red Herring Misinformation *

If someone were to abduct you, sedate you, anesthetize you, then slit your throat, you'd have no awareness whatsoever of your death, so I guess you're cool with that.

Are you really that stupid so as to not understand that individuals have met a live birth requirement and are entitled to due process of law , whether they are conscious or not ?

* Veracity Of The Incarnate *

We wouldn't want any hypocrisy round here, after all.

Your claims of absolution and innocence sound like excuses of a psychopath wanting to put the laughter in slaughter .

 

[Penelope]

"Abortion Rights" means the right for a woman to have unprotected sex. That being said, forcing the woman to have a baby she doesn't want leads to other problems. If I were King, I would decree a 10 week abortion limit for the whole country.

You would be wrong.

 

[Penelope]

" Blood Lust Of Psychopaths "

* Whimsical Standards *

You have previously stated that women who have an abortion should be executed as heinous criminals .

* Consternation Of Uniform Fetish Melodrama *

Elective abortion is not murder or unethical , and women do not naturally seek " without cause " abortion when " with cause " abortion are valid .

* Dullard Red Herring Misinformation *

Are you really that stupid so as to not understand that individuals have met a live birth requirement and are entitled to due process of law , whether they are conscious or not ?

* Veracity Of The Incarnate *

Your claims of absolution and innocence sound like excuses of a psychopath wanting to put the laughter in slaughter .

You keep having the bible to defend anti-abortion. You don't realize what you are talking about.

In Numbers 5:11-31, Moses lays out an elaborate ritual for uncovering the secret sin of adultery. Nothing about the man.

It's still a men's world and the Republicans know it. Why do you think it's all men.

 

[Penelope]

I am pro-life, my view is that unless human rights mean something divergent to "human rights," the unborn should have them. As a consequence, I believe nearly all abortion should be banned (the typical 99% or more or cases). There are potential exceptions which I remain agnostic on but these do not make up the paradigm of incidents. Otherwise, I have never heard a good argument for legal abortion and I will openly argue that it ought to be banned.

You like the one woman in Wyoming that set fire to an abortion clinic because she was against abortion.