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The image below makes one think about Trump's lack of moral values, although he is squarely in the nativists' wheel house.
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The image below makes one think about Trump's lack of moral values, although he is squarely in the nativists' wheel house.
I didn't realize that American Indians had set up federal laws and specific borders on their land.
Like virtually every civilized country today. Borders and laws to protect those borders.
Learn something new every day around here.
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The platform, adopted by the Republican National Committee’s Platform Committee Tuesday, also calls for rescinding President Obama’s executive action protecting around a million young people from deportation, calling it a “direct violation of federal law.” The tough immigration stance is one of the few ways the Republican platform has changed to match the views of its nominee, Donald Trump, who is running on an “America First” platform that at one point included excluding Muslims from immigrating to the country. Kris Kobach, a Platform Committee delegate and the secretary of state of Kansas, said he believes that the immigration portion of the platform reflects Trump’s views. Kobach, an anti-illegal-immigration activist, advised Mitt Romney on immigration in 2012 and is an informal adviser to Trump.
The Republican platform calls for a wall to “cover the entirety of the southern border” with Mexico to stop unauthorized crossings, a cornerstone of Trump’s campaign. But Kobach stopped short of inserting language asking Mexico to pay for the wall — which Trump has vowed to do — saying that was too specific to include. Kobach also successfully added an amendment to ask for “special scrutiny” of immigrants entering the United States from “terror-sponsoring countries or from regions associated with Islamic terrorism.” The platform also says that current unemployment and underemployment in the country make it “indefensible” to “continue offering lawful permanent residence to more than one million foreign nationals every year.” That means, in effect, the Republican Party is asking for fewer green cards to be given to legal immigrants. “The interests of American workers must be protected over the claims of foreign nationals seeking the same jobs,” the platform reads.
Meanwhile, Democrats are drafting one of the most pro-immigration platforms the party has seen, calling for a path to citizenship and access to health exchanges for people who immigrated to the U.S. illegally. Meanwhile, the Republican platform explicitly urges politicians to bar those immigrants from participating in government programs. The Democratic platform also calls for an expansion of Obama’s executive action to protect millions more immigrants from deportation. “I think the parties are probably farther part now than they ever have been on immigration,” Kobach said. “The two parties are going in opposite directions,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigration-reform group America’s Voice. “I think the gulf between the two parties has become a canyon.”
Republicans and Democrats weren’t always so far apart. In 1996, the Democratic platform urged a policy of cracking down on “criminal immigrants” and complained that the border was under-patrolled. “We cannot tolerate illegal immigration and we must stop it,” the platform read. In 2000, the Republican Party asked for “a total overhaul of the immigration system” to “meet the manpower needs of our expanding economy.” In 2004, its platform supported a guest worker program proposed by then-nominee George W. Bush but stopped short of endorsing comprehensive immigration reform. It’s unclear what the political ramifications will be. Party platforms are largely symbolic documents, but in the case of immigration, they reflect the nominees fairly closely this time. In its autopsy of the 2012 election, the RNC wrote that it must embrace immigration reform or risk dying off. “If we do not, our Party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only,” it concluded. “We also believe that comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with Republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all.”
Parties’ platforms open up wide gulf on immigration
The image below makes one think about Trump's lack of moral values, although he is squarely in the nativists' wheel house.
I had a Uncle that said if he could travel through time he would go back to the day of the first European Settlers and hand the Native American population a bunch of AK-47's and tell them to start firing...
Funny how the first European Settlers were fleeing Europe for a better life in the New World, and today their ancestors are no better than those they were fleeing from...
The image below makes one think about Trump's lack of moral values, although he is squarely in the nativists' wheel house.
This reminds me that if I played Phil Mickelson in golf I;m only a stroke or 2 behind when Phil being the professional should be kicking my ###Read it and weep, Vigilante.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton McClatchy/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein McClatchy/Marist Clinton 40, Trump 35, Johnson 10, Stein 5 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 37, Johnson 5, Stein 2 Clinton +3
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 42, Clinton 39 Trump +3
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 45, Trump 36 Clinton +9
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 43 Trump +2
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 39, Trump 39 Tie
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 41 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton Gravis Clinton 42, Trump 40 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton Marquette Clinton 45, Trump 41 Clinton +4
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 34 Clinton +10
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 37 Clinton +7
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 41, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Trump +5
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 43, Trump 35, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 34, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Trump +6
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 38, Trump 35, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +3
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 36, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 6 Trump +1
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 37, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Gravis Clinton 39, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Marquette Clinton 43, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +6
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 37, Trump 28, Johnson 13, Stein 6 Clinton +9
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Monmouth Clinton 48, Trump 35, Johnson 5, Stein 3 Clinton +13
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 39, Trump 34, Johnson 10, Stein 4 Clinton +5
Nothing of the sort. Trump is not in HRC's league, and the stats above clearly show that.This reminds me that if I played Phil Mickelson in golf I;m only a stroke or 2 behind when Phil being the professional should be kicking my ###Read it and weep, Vigilante.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton McClatchy/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein McClatchy/Marist Clinton 40, Trump 35, Johnson 10, Stein 5 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 37, Johnson 5, Stein 2 Clinton +3
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 42, Clinton 39 Trump +3
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 45, Trump 36 Clinton +9
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 43 Trump +2
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 39, Trump 39 Tie
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 41 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton Gravis Clinton 42, Trump 40 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton Marquette Clinton 45, Trump 41 Clinton +4
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 34 Clinton +10
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 37 Clinton +7
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 41, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Trump +5
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 43, Trump 35, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 34, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Trump +6
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 38, Trump 35, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +3
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 36, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 6 Trump +1
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 37, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Gravis Clinton 39, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Marquette Clinton 43, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +6
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 37, Trump 28, Johnson 13, Stein 6 Clinton +9
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Monmouth Clinton 48, Trump 35, Johnson 5, Stein 3 Clinton +13
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 39, Trump 34, Johnson 10, Stein 4 Clinton +5
Wasn't that the point I was trying to make? Yet he hangs around, and in athletics the more a team hangs around the more likely you're going to lose.Nothing of the sort. Trump is not in HRC's league, and the stats above clearly show that.This reminds me that if I played Phil Mickelson in golf I;m only a stroke or 2 behind when Phil being the professional should be kicking my ###Read it and weep, Vigilante.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton McClatchy/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein McClatchy/Marist Clinton 40, Trump 35, Johnson 10, Stein 5 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 37, Johnson 5, Stein 2 Clinton +3
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 42, Clinton 39 Trump +3
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 45, Trump 36 Clinton +9
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 43 Trump +2
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 39, Trump 39 Tie
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 41 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton Gravis Clinton 42, Trump 40 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton Marquette Clinton 45, Trump 41 Clinton +4
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 34 Clinton +10
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 37 Clinton +7
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 41, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Trump +5
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 43, Trump 35, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 34, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Trump +6
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 38, Trump 35, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +3
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 36, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 6 Trump +1
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 37, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Gravis Clinton 39, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Marquette Clinton 43, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +6
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 37, Trump 28, Johnson 13, Stein 6 Clinton +9
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Monmouth Clinton 48, Trump 35, Johnson 5, Stein 3 Clinton +13
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 39, Trump 34, Johnson 10, Stein 4 Clinton +5
Read it and weep, Vigilante.
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton McClatchy/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein McClatchy/Marist Clinton 40, Trump 35, Johnson 10, Stein 5 Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 40, Trump 37, Johnson 5, Stein 2 Clinton +3
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 42, Clinton 39 Trump +3
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 45, Trump 36 Clinton +9
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 43 Trump +2
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 39, Trump 39 Tie
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Clinton 41, Trump 41 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton Gravis Clinton 42, Trump 40 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton Marquette Clinton 45, Trump 41 Clinton +4
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 34 Clinton +10
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 37 Clinton +7
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Trump 41, Clinton 36, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Trump +5
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 43, Trump 35, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 34, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Trump +6
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 38, Trump 35, Johnson 9, Stein 3 Clinton +3
Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Quinnipiac Clinton 36, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 6 Trump +1
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 37, Trump 37, Johnson 7, Stein 4 Tie
Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Gravis Clinton 39, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Marquette Clinton 43, Trump 37, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Clinton +6
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 37, Trump 28, Johnson 13, Stein 6 Clinton +9
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Monmouth Clinton 48, Trump 35, Johnson 5, Stein 3 Clinton +13
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein FOX News Clinton 39, Trump 34, Johnson 10, Stein 4 Clinton +5
I am glad to see Henry attempting to post and instead of emoting like Vigilante.
The polls are very clear that HRC is leading, and based on them, she wins the blue states and almost all of the battle ground states.
The only wall here is the conservative one that common sense, reason, and logic are demolishing.
It is a common term understood by common people, so I suggest you define it. The wall being built is the one by Trump that hedges out those voters he needs to win.I am glad to see Henry attempting to post and instead of emoting like Vigilante.
The polls are very clear that HRC is leading, and based on them, she wins the blue states and almost all of the battle ground states.
The only wall here is the conservative one that common sense, reason, and logic are demolishing.
Please define Conservative.