A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Your personal comment was deceptive and in no way did the article substantiate your allegations. There was nothing in the article about the Pentagon punishing warship commanders, hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military, or being negligent in looking out for the lives of military crews.

Of course, the story you linked was from the Communist Chinese-sympathetic Bloomberg News, so I'm sure they'd like to thank you for spreading Chinese propaganda.

......Freakin YES!! now Denizen, all your posts will be seen as crap since you LIED and bullshitted....there's NOTHING about punishing in there....you are just as bad as the MSM

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Your personal comment was deceptive and in no way did the article substantiate your allegations. There was nothing in the article about the Pentagon punishing warship commanders, hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military, or being negligent in looking out for the lives of military crews.

Of course, the story you linked was from the Communist Chinese-sympathetic Bloomberg News, so I'm sure they'd like to thank you for spreading Chinese propaganda.

......Freakin YES!! now Denizen, all your posts will be seen as crap since you LIED and bullshitted....there's NOTHING about punishing in there....you are just as bad as the MSM

He was fired. You dolt. Get a child to explain the news to you.

 

[tyroneweaver]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

 

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Your personal comment was deceptive and in no way did the article substantiate your allegations. There was nothing in the article about the Pentagon punishing warship commanders, hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military, or being negligent in looking out for the lives of military crews.

Of course, the story you linked was from the Communist Chinese-sympathetic Bloomberg News, so I'm sure they'd like to thank you for spreading Chinese propaganda.

......Freakin YES!! now Denizen, all your posts will be seen as crap since you LIED and bullshitted....there's NOTHING about punishing in there....you are just as bad as the MSM

He was fired. You dolt. Get a child to explain the news to you.

hahahhahahah
that's not in your link hahahhahahahahah IDIOT
....you must be an idiot if you don't know if you don't follow orders, you get punished
....again, you people LOVE criminals.....always defending CRIMINALS/etc

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

 

[eagle1462010]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Your personal comment was deceptive and in no way did the article substantiate your allegations. There was nothing in the article about the Pentagon punishing warship commanders, hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military, or being negligent in looking out for the lives of military crews.

Of course, the story you linked was from the Communist Chinese-sympathetic Bloomberg News, so I'm sure they'd like to thank you for spreading Chinese propaganda.

......Freakin YES!! now Denizen, all your posts will be seen as crap since you LIED and bullshitted....there's NOTHING about punishing in there....you are just as bad as the MSM

He was fired. You dolt. Get a child to explain the news to you.

1. They are always relieved of command pending investigation in issues like this.
2. My CO was relieved of command twice.....Once on the Tripoli because it hit a mine in the Gulf.
2nd time was when a Junior officer hit a reef off Somalia.........The Captain wasn't even awake
when the OOD drove the ship into the reef.
3. The Military is NOT A DEMOCRACY.........You follow the Chain of Command or else.
4. The Ship is in Guam. As of yesterday the infected are in quarantine in Guam and NONE have
needed any hospitalization yet. Aka..........Mild cases.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

 

[tyroneweaver]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

Their organization, their rules.

 

[22lcidw]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The captain of somebody under his command sent the captain's letter ( written/ signed 30 Mar) directly to SF Chronicle, appearing there and on this board on March 31. Tha t carrier is a strategic asset that had been on patrol. Operational readiness information was leaked to the public and all foreign intell / military. On a strategic asset that is not done, ever. Emergency S.O.S. If you are literally sinking beneath the waves, OK. But, signed letter on letter head deliberately leaked to the paper disclosing that kind of intelligence relating to readiness? Never. He has secure communication capability to communicate with higher command and virtually any command level above next higher command. Very serious breach. He's toast and should be. It is the way it has always been. It is the way it has to be. Get it?

Perhaps Rear Admiral Jared Kushner, COVID-19 expert, will take over.

It's amazing how far one can get merely by sleeping with the "president's" daughter, who, herself, is such a genius. Jared must be GIB.

How many of the powerful are married or related or good friends in those circles? It seems more like a club for the well connected or gets you in the door. Media/politics-both elected and non elected/ lobbyists/entertainers/lawyers/conglomerates/etc. That narrows the real power down a bit. Hillary married into it, didn't she? Her whole career was based on tugging on Bill's coattails.

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

 

[wamose]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

What purpose would it serve for the Pentagon to come out and say half our military has COVED 19? Sometime people just have to STFU in the interest of the bigger picture. I have no idea how this asshole Captain ever received his rank. I wouldn't trust him to swab the deck.

 

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

yours is a very silly post.....' concealing'' hahahahahhahahahahah
...and besides, like wamose said, they would have very GOOD reasons to keep information from enemies/etc

 

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

the Pentagon ''conceals'' all kinds of stuff all the time!!! DUH

 

[eagle1462010]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

the Pentagon ''conceals'' all kinds of stuff all the time!!! DUH

LOL

If they only knew.......LMAO

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

You're an idiot

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

yours is a very silly post.....' concealing'' hahahahahhahahahahah
...and besides, like wamose said, they would have very GOOD reasons to keep information from enemies/etc

Weekend at Bernie's is compulsory watching for Generals?

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

the Pentagon ''conceals'' all kinds of stuff all the time!!! DUH

Truth is the first casualty of the military.

 

[Denizen]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

You're an idiot

Thanks, but I have to decline. I would hate to see you lose that job and start weeping and blubbering.

 

[harmonica]

The Pentagon is punishing warship commanders for acting in the best interest of protecting human life by aborting military missions when coronavirus infects the crew.

The Pentagon has been hiding the effect of coronavirus on the military and it is likely that infections are accelerating because of Pentagon's inaction and valuing military missions ahead of the lives of their crews.

Could we see warships returning with large numbers of dead sailors?

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus

A Navy Captain’s Brave Fight Against Coronavirus
There’s no social distancing on an aircraft carrier, so an emergency stop was the right call.

By James Stavridis
April 1, 2020, 11:24 PM GMT+7

I have been a ship captain, a commodore in charge of a group of destroyers, and an admiral in command of a carrier strike group with a nuclear aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise. In the course of my career, I made many hard choices at sea in both peace and combat — but I never faced the kind of hard choice that the captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, Brett Crozier, just had to make.

Faced with the coronavirus sweeping through his 5,000-sailor crew, he reached out to his chain of command and requested permission to abort his assigned mission patrolling the Pacific and South China Sea, and come to all stop at Guam to disinfect his ship and save his crew from unnecessary medical risks. How should we evaluate his actions in the face of an invisible but deadly foe?

Let’s start by understanding what life on a Navy warship is like. Think of the kitchen in a suburban home — a fairly nice sized one with an island and granite counters. That’s about the size of most Navy “berthing compartments,” the bunk room where the sailors sleep. In that space, a dozen sailors each have a tight single bunk bed and a small locker to store their clothes. They will share a shower, a couple of sinks and a commode or two.

When the sailors queue up for meals, it is a long human line, snaking down a tight corridor, with everyone packed together on one side to allow people to pass to and from their assigned stations. Even the watch stations on the bridge and in the combat information center have everyone seated shoulder to shoulder.

It is the exact opposite of the social distancing civilians have rightly been asked to practice. The 18th century wit Samuel Johnson said of Britain’s Royal Navy that serving in a warship is like “is being in jail, with the chance of being drowned.” Life on a Navy ship isn’t as bad as jail, of course, but you get the idea.

So those berthing compartments, unfortunately, have become “birthing compartments,” as in birthing the coronavirus. When Crozier first heard he had a few cases, he must have felt his heart skip a beat, as the odds were high that many, many more cases were already circulating through the crew. Very shortly, he had 20 cases, then 50, then 100. His physicians, consulting with the Navy medical establishment ashore, would no doubt have recommended doing all the things that were tried on cruise ships — isolating the sick, treating them as best they could (even a carrier has only a handful of medical personnel onboard), spreading out everyone else, and testing as many as possible.

The problem, of course, is that unlike a cruise liner — where passengers can hunker down in their own stateroom — those berthing compartments, chow lines and watch stations were designed for close-quarter contact. And to make it worse, everybody is sitting on a nuclear reactor that is loaded with jet fuel, high-grade explosives, bombs and missiles.

Crozier certainly knows that the mission comes first. And in his heartfelt letter, he acknowledged that if we were in a war, he would simply do the best he could, hope most of the infected had only mild symptoms, and go to the fight weakened but hopefully operational. But the USS Theodore Roosevelt was not headed to war, a circumstance in which the health of the force has to come first. In this case, the extraordinary choice was to evacuate the crew (all but the 10% needed to run the reactor and disinfect the ship) and keep the ship parked in Guam for at least two weeks. ...

Even Navy captains have to go through their chain of command. The Navy Secretary and the CNO had plans in the works to take care of the problem. Instead the captain jumped the gun ruined his career.

Sending letter on letterhead to SF chronicle is worst breach of OPSEC by commander of a strategic asset I have ever heard of.

Allowing people under the Captain's command to die needlessly is worse.

The mission comes first....pacifist

Cruising in circles until commanded to shoot?

..I was in the USMC for 8 years.....the military is a lot more disciplined than the civilians--and they are younger/in great shape/etc.....your article is bullshit---I've been on 4 ships.....the Navy/Marines can issue policies to curb chances of spreading the virus....yes, it's super close quarters/etc....but they can send squads/etc to chow at certain times to keep distance/etc....
....in BootCamp we were specifically TRAINED not to touch our faces/cough/etc
...the military cleans their areas EVERYDAY--spotless--and inspected

Why is the Pentagon concealing Covid-19 cases? Is the problem out of control in the military?

the Pentagon ''conceals'' all kinds of stuff all the time!!! DUH

Truth is the first casualty of the military.

you don't know the meaning of the word
you don't know shit about the military