4 Years Ago This Weekend: Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

[Weatherman2020]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

 

[MaryL]

History is full of all sorts of little surprises. And our modern newfangled "pollsters" are full of shit. They mostly are just glorified Biden cheerleaders. Give me a break already.

 

[Manonthestreet]

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[BertramN]

Yes, Mrs. Clinton did remain ahead in the popular vote, winning by nearly 3 million votes.

Unfortunately, the knuckle-draggers in the little swing states saddled the nation with their orange-tinted hero.

It will be unknown for decades if the United States can recover from his incompetence.

.

 

[pyetro]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

That was 16 days before that election (November 8).
We are10 days away from the elections (November 3).
And the Washington Post ultimately predicted a 3% popular vote lead for Hillary, not 12.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yes, Mrs. Clinton did remain ahead in the popular vote, winning by nearly 3 million votes.

Unfortunately, the knuckle-draggers in the little swing states saddled the nation with their orange-tinted hero.

It will be unknown for decades if the United States can recover from his incompetence.

.

Nobody gives a shit who the street crapping freaks in 5 California counties voted for.

 

[Weatherman2020]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

That was 16 days before that election (November 8).
We are10 days away from the elections (November 3).
And the Washington Post ultimately predicted a 3% popular vote lead for Hillary, not 12.

All the polls do wild swings towards reality the last 2 days.

 

[Bush92]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

Exactly.

 

[Bush92]

Yes, Mrs. Clinton did remain ahead in the popular vote, winning by nearly 3 million votes.

Unfortunately, the knuckle-draggers in the little swing states saddled the nation with their orange-tinted hero.

It will be unknown for decades if the United States can recover from his incompetence.

.

Constitution and Electoral College worked.

 

[2aguy]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

And that is how President Hilary defeated Donald Trump in 2016...............er.........um........right?

And that was when Donald Trump was an unknown quantity, seen by many republicans as a New York democrat, liberal, who wouldn't do anything he promised to do.....

Meanwhile, today.....he has the most support of any Republican President within his own party, the highest approval among blacks and hispanics of any republican candidate, and those who didn't vote for him on the republican side because of those issues just mentioned, are now supporting him to the point of crawling over broken glass to vote for him...

so.....just look at President Hilary when you see the polls today....

 

[2aguy]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

That was 16 days before that election (November 8).
We are10 days away from the elections (November 3).
And the Washington Post ultimately predicted a 3% popular vote lead for Hillary, not 12.

All the polls do wild swings towards reality the last 2 days.
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Rush always points out......the polls before the election are meant to depress republican voters and right before the election they start putting out accurate polling data so they don't look like complete fools, cause they need to be hired for the next election....

 

[SavannahMann]

Why would anyone buy a Ford? The Pinto was a terrible car and a death trap. Yeah sure they fixed it and haven’t made that mistake again. But really can anyone ever trust a Ford?

That is the argument you are making regarding the polls. They were wrong before so we can never use them again. Yet they called the midterms pretty well. And why? Because they made mistakes and learned.

Anyone can make a mistake. Anyone can get it wrong on an assumption. The trick Is to learn from those mistakes. And move on. Just as Ford fixed their cars the pollsters fixed their models. They have to otherwise they don’t get hired and they go out of business.

So thread after thread about how they were wrong in 2016 does not mean they are wrong now. Which is what I have been saying for how long? We do not know how the election is going to turn out. But dismissing the polls because they were wrong last time is foolish.

But let me ask you this question. What if the polls are right and Trump loses? Will you learn and move forward or deny the accuracy of the polls moving forward?

 

[Dogbiscuit]

I just wish we could go back and investigate how many millions of fraudulent votes were documented for Hillary, and Obama as well.
Ive said it on this forum several times, Trump = Landslide = Breaking All-Time Records = Truth !

 

[alang1216]

History is important.
“All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.”

Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL)

Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the 2016 election.

abcnews.go.com

Trump made a dramatic comeback and only lost by 2%.

The EC was designed to protect the rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Instead it is failing to protect the majority from the tyranny of the minority. Probably an untenable situation in the long run.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Trafalgar has been consistently accurate, IMO, through this whole election. Variations in his results are in the single digits, while the rest of the polling bullshit swings in double digits because their methodology is erroneous. They fuck up everything from missing shy voters to over sampling Democrats, and it is at least in part deliberate because they dont bother to correct themselves.

And after Trump wins, God Willing, they will have a million excuses why they were so inept at their primary function, but Traffalgar's example of getting it right will prove them liars.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why would anyone buy a Ford? The Pinto was a terrible car and a death trap. Yeah sure they fixed it and haven’t made that mistake again. But really can anyone ever trust a Ford?

That is the argument you are making regarding the polls. They were wrong before so we can never use them again. Yet they called the midterms pretty well. And why? Because they made mistakes and learned.

Anyone can make a mistake. Anyone can get it wrong on an assumption. The trick Is to learn from those mistakes. And move on. Just as Ford fixed their cars the pollsters fixed their models. They have to otherwise they don’t get hired and they go out of business.

So thread after thread about how they were wrong in 2016 does not mean they are wrong now. Which is what I have been saying for how long? We do not know how the election is going to turn out. But dismissing the polls because they were wrong last time is foolish.

But let me ask you this question. What if the polls are right and Trump loses? Will you learn and move forward or deny the accuracy of the polls moving forward?

Of course you refuse to learn from history. You’re a leftist who’ll get socialism right this time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trafalgar has been consistently accurate, IMO, through this whole election. Variations in his results are in the single digits, while the rest of the polling bullshit swings in double digits because their methodology is erroneous. They fuck up everything from missing shy voters to over sampling Democrats, and it is at least in part deliberate because they dont bother to correct themselves.

And after Trump wins, God Willing, they will have a million excuses why they were so inept at their primary function, but Traffalgar's example of getting it right will prove them liars.

Who answers unknown numbers these days?
And if you do answer, how many are willing to say they’re voting Trump to a stranger who has your number and likely your address?
Polls are obsolete.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Normal, thinking people understand that 2020 is not 2016. Biden is not Clinton. Trump the unknown quantity is now Trump the known liar and failure.

The desire for Trombies to look back to that 2016 race is understandable. It was their greatest moment. An unexpected win by a slim margin in three states. The ability to survey the landscape with clear eyes is not within their reach.

Turnout is massive. The end of Trump’s political career is 9 days away. You'll have to love him as he becomes the only ex-president who is never welcome at gatherings of ex-presidents.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why would anyone buy a Ford? The Pinto was a terrible car and a death trap. Yeah sure they fixed it and haven’t made that mistake again. But really can anyone ever trust a Ford?

That is the argument you are making regarding the polls. They were wrong before so we can never use them again. Yet they called the midterms pretty well. And why? Because they made mistakes and learned.

Anyone can make a mistake. Anyone can get it wrong on an assumption. The trick Is to learn from those mistakes. And move on. Just as Ford fixed their cars the pollsters fixed their models. They have to otherwise they don’t get hired and they go out of business.

So thread after thread about how they were wrong in 2016 does not mean they are wrong now. Which is what I have been saying for how long? We do not know how the election is going to turn out. But dismissing the polls because they were wrong last time is foolish.

But let me ask you this question. What if the polls are right and Trump loses? Will you learn and move forward or deny the accuracy of the polls moving forward?

Please explain to the class why Trump gets 30,000 to show up at every stop and Biden gets 12 to show up.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Normal, thinking people understand that 2020 is not 2016. Biden is not Clinton. Trump the unknown quantity is now Trump the known liar and failure.

The desire for Trombies to look back to that 2016 race is understandable. It was their greatest moment. An unexpected win by a slim margin in three states. The ability to survey the landscape with clear eyes is not within their reach.

Turnout is massive. The end of Trump’s political career is 9 days away. You'll have to love him as he becomes the only ex-president who is never welcome at gatherings of ex-presidents.

Yeah, the guy who spent 5 decades in the swamp doing nothing but getting wealthy will solve everything!