1 shot - two injuries. Another 3y.o toddler fired his parents

[timslash]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

 

[Brain357]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

Do lots of people just not watch the news? After the 2 year old shot and killed his mom you'd think people would be more careful.

 

[Roadrunner]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

Time to start jailing these parents, and publicizing the Hell out of it.

 

[deltex1]

I hope the kid gets 20 years.

 

[Moonglow]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

He shoots better than the cops....

 

[Moonglow]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

Do lots of people just not watch the news? After the 2 year old shot and killed his mom you'd think people would be more careful.

It was the kids fault.....He knew better...

 

[August West]

1.4 million toddlers a year use a gun to defend themselves. This story is so typical of the libral media.

 

[hjmick]

Toddler Wounds Both Parents With 1 Shot From Handgun

Well, dear gun-owners. This thread is about stupidity of people who think that guns will save their lives.
Another toddler shoted his parents, lol.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities say a 3-year-old boy got ahold of a handgun from his mother's purse and fired just one shot that wounded both his parents.
I'm still waiting for real arguments, not for "do you know how many people die in car accidents", etc.

No, this thread is about your desire to deny all people a constitutional right because of the stupidity of a few.

Do us all a favor and at least be honest...

 

[2aguy]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

 

[2aguy]

and of course....it is those who understand the 2nd Amendment who push for gun safety training......and the anti gunners who fight gun safety training.....if there were even fewer gun accidents than there are now, they wouldn't have little bodies to drag in front of their allies in the democrat controlled news media...as they splash thru the puddles of blood in their haste to get media attention.....

 

[Brain357]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

1.6 million isn't a real number. You made it up Bill. And Kleck says based on his numbers most of them are criminals defending against criminals:
Kleck:
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."

 

[2aguy]

I didn't make it up Brain...that is a lie....I took the average of these gun studies...conducted over a 40 year period, by both private and public researchers...including the anti gun clinton Justice Dept. and the anti gun obama CDC....add them...average them and you get roughly 1.6 million times that guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives....vs....6-700 accidental gun deaths a year....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717
DMIa 1978...2,141,512
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68
Kleck...2.5 million
Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544
DMIb...1978...1,098,409
Hart...1981...1.797,461
Mauser...1990...1,487,342
Gallup...1993...1,621,377
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
-------------------------------------------
Ohio...1982...771,043
Gallup...1991...777,152
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..



NCVS (National Crime Victimization Survey)....108,000


Notice, the 3 different groupings of stats from the research listed so far.....not one of them approaches the NCVS number of 100,000....

 

[2aguy]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

1.6 million isn't a real number. You made it up Bill. And Kleck says based on his numbers most of them are criminals defending against criminals:
Kleck:
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."

And again...a normal, law abiding citizen carrying a gun in the 1990s for protection from violent criminals are the people in Kleck's study....but again......his isn't the only study......it is the most accurate and detailed....but only one of many......that prove you wrong....

 

[2aguy]

And here is a great video by Bill Whittle....pointing out our #1 status with guns....and our much lower murder rate compared to gun controlled countries around the world....

Bearing ArmsNumber One With A Bullet - Bearing Arms

Points out America is #111 for murder rate

--countries 1-110 many socialist left wing paradises

--names 13 cities in U.S. that distort our murder rate up...all democrat cities..

 

[Brain357]

I didn't make it up Brain...that is a lie....I took the average of these gun studies...conducted over a 40 year period, by both private and public researchers...including the anti gun clinton Justice Dept. and the anti gun obama CDC....add them...average them and you get roughly 1.6 million times that guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives....vs....6-700 accidental gun deaths a year....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717
DMIa 1978...2,141,512
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68
Kleck...2.5 million
Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544
DMIb...1978...1,098,409
Hart...1981...1.797,461
Mauser...1990...1,487,342
Gallup...1993...1,621,377
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
-------------------------------------------
Ohio...1982...771,043
Gallup...1991...777,152
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..



NCVS (National Crime Victimization Survey)....108,000


Notice, the 3 different groupings of stats from the research listed so far.....not one of them approaches the NCVS number of 100,000....

And if the NCVS is most accurate you are off by 1.5 million. Notice the vastly different numbers each one has? If they were accurate they would all arrive at about the same number. They are however not accurate.

 

[Brain357]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

1.6 million isn't a real number. You made it up Bill. And Kleck says based on his numbers most of them are criminals defending against criminals:
Kleck:
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."

And again...a normal, law abiding citizen carrying a gun in the 1990s for protection from violent criminals are the people in Kleck's study....but again......his isn't the only study......it is the most accurate and detailed....but only one of many......that prove you wrong....

Most defenses happen at home Bill, not carrying.

 

[2aguy]

I didn't make it up Brain...that is a lie....I took the average of these gun studies...conducted over a 40 year period, by both private and public researchers...including the anti gun clinton Justice Dept. and the anti gun obama CDC....add them...average them and you get roughly 1.6 million times that guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives....vs....6-700 accidental gun deaths a year....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717
DMIa 1978...2,141,512
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68
Kleck...2.5 million
Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544
DMIb...1978...1,098,409
Hart...1981...1.797,461
Mauser...1990...1,487,342
Gallup...1993...1,621,377
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
-------------------------------------------
Ohio...1982...771,043
Gallup...1991...777,152
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..



NCVS (National Crime Victimization Survey)....108,000


Notice, the 3 different groupings of stats from the research listed so far.....not one of them approaches the NCVS number of 100,000....

And if the NCVS is most accurate you are off by 1.5 million. Notice the vastly different numbers each one has? If they were accurate they would all arrive at about the same number. They are however not accurate.

And the NCVS is so far off it isn't even close......

Here. THis is a great video....

 

[Brain357]

And here is a great video by Bill Whittle....pointing out our #1 status with guns....and our much lower murder rate compared to gun controlled countries around the world....

Bearing ArmsNumber One With A Bullet - Bearing Arms

Points out America is #111 for murder rate

--countries 1-110 many socialist left wing paradises

--names 13 cities in U.S. that distort our murder rate up...all democrat cities..

Cities are where most crime happens Bill. It's a lot of people packed into a small area.

 

[2aguy]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

1.6 million isn't a real number. You made it up Bill. And Kleck says based on his numbers most of them are criminals defending against criminals:
Kleck:
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."

And again...a normal, law abiding citizen carrying a gun in the 1990s for protection from violent criminals are the people in Kleck's study....but again......his isn't the only study......it is the most accurate and detailed....but only one of many......that prove you wrong....

Most defenses happen at home Bill, not carrying.

And a great number happen out in the world....so you can be raped, stabbed, beaten, tortured, and murdered....as long as you aren't at home....?

 

[Brain357]

so?.real numbers.....6-700 accidental gun deaths each year. Vs. 1.6 million times a year on average guns are used to stop violent criminal attack and save lives......

Can you do the math on those numbers....which is bigger?


and all by itself....6-700 accidental gun deaths in a country of about 320 million people....with at least 11.1 million carrying guns for protection.....

Again...do the math and tell me 6-700 accidental deaths by any means, in a country of at least 320 million people is a cause for concern......considering drowning kills 3,500 people a year.....I thre that in since you don't like the truthful comparison to car accidents......how about poisoning, or falls.....

1.6 million isn't a real number. You made it up Bill. And Kleck says based on his numbers most of them are criminals defending against criminals:
Kleck:
"This is true because DGUs typically involve criminal behavior, such as unlawful gun possession, by the gun-using victim, who therefore is often unwilling to report the incident."

And again...a normal, law abiding citizen carrying a gun in the 1990s for protection from violent criminals are the people in Kleck's study....but again......his isn't the only study......it is the most accurate and detailed....but only one of many......that prove you wrong....

Most defenses happen at home Bill, not carrying.

And a great number happen out in the world....so you can be raped, stabbed, beaten, tortured, and murdered....as long as you aren't at home....?

Sorry Bill but most defenses are done by criminals. Kleck says so.