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  1. Not2BSubjugated

    Reasons why progressives desire "universal healthcare"?

    I think there's a lot of politicians who want control. There's already been a few trans fats laws and a lot of cigarette taxes predicated upon the idea that a lot of the people harming themselves with these things won't be able to pay for their own hospital care when those habits catch up with...
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    Gabbard to sue clinton for defamation unless clinton

    Lol! There is a cynical part of me that wants to frame the Russia collusion narrative like: The left claims to want to bring down Trump because they believe our dangerous enemy, the Russians, helped him get elected. In reality, they want to bring down the Russians because they believe the...
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    Gabbard to sue clinton for defamation unless clinton

    Going after someone for defaming you without evidence during a presidential campaign is the action of a snowflake? What's all this snowflakery about Ukraine, then?
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    Should Trump Have Withheld Military Aid to Ukraine ?

    Lol, you sure hopped back off that disproven shit in a hurry. Nice thinkin. Nothing yet has come out that you don't have to read into to come to the conclusions that you knuckleheads are coming to. "What he REALLY meant was. . ." or "the ACTUAL reason he told Biden not to go to the...
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    Should Trump Have Withheld Military Aid to Ukraine ?

    Wowzers. Define disproven. State department cronies with axes to grind saying so doesn't prove shit.
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    Thoughts When Ambassador Yovanovitch Testified

    Well shit, that wasn't the snide sorta response I was expecting. I think I had you pegged wrong. I'll have to lay off the sarcasm next time.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    The social ownership thing definitely offers up its own fog, but that's not the crux of the misunderstanding in English speaking politics. The primary confusion seems to hinge on the misconception that welfare = socialism, and completely overlooks the social ownership concept. I definitely...
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    Thoughts When Ambassador Yovanovitch Testified

    Nah, I'm pretty sure the reason he asked it that way is because the constitutional definition by which the Democrats are hoping to make this a quick and easy impeachment, describes bribery in the context of the president TAKING a bribe, not OFFERING a bribe. Essentially, the negative answer to...
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    If Witness Intimidation Occurred -

    Great. That testimony doesn't make your personal interpretation of what he said accurate. Keep trying. Also, that quote, "she's gonna go through some things", is something Trump said in a private conversation with the Ukrainian president back in July, a full month before any inquiry was...
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    If Witness Intimidation Occurred -

    Edward, please try to keep up with the conversation, buddy. We're talking about witness intimidation in the context of the impeachment inquiry hearings. Those began on September 24. Yovanovitch was fired back in May. Pretty difficult to make the argument that an action taken 3 months before...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    I'll give you that, the blind fear tactics don't seem to have done the trick with socialism OR racism. Personally, I'm a hardcore proponent of using words, particularly political and legal terms, properly, and upholding their distinction from other similar terms. Language is arguably our most...
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    Yep...they are going to ban hand guns too....joe biden just said so...

    Which part is the rightwing lie? Are you asserting that Biden didn't say that? Or is Biden a right-winger running a false flag campaign?
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. When I pointed out that I never said any such thing, I thought it was pretty obvious that I was ridiculing you for applying that idea to me. No, I don't think they're using Venezuela as their model. Even if they thought that Chavez's exact moves were all good...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    I never said any such thing. What the democrats want doesn't define socialism. It's a word with its own meaning that predates the political career of anyone in said party.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    The right wing didn't name Bernie a democratic socialist. He named himself that. Also, I'm right of center and I've got the dictionary definition on hand. Define "no one".
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Ah, so when the right misuses the term, it's confusion and refusal to understand, and it causes the term to become diluted. When the left does it, it's for brevity, and I'm guessing it does no harm to the overall understanding of the word? Lol. You "my team good, your team bad" types never...
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    If Witness Intimidation Occurred -

    Who did it harm and how? Also, how directly do you have to be able to tie the harm back to the statement itself before you can legally justify prosecuting someone for publicly trash-talking someone who happens to be a witness in a trial? Defamation? Libel AND slander?! On top of witness...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Oh? What industry did Canada nationalize? I had no idea they were implementing centralized economic control.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Countries that attempt socialism seem to do that anyway. If an ideal scenario is too unlikely to fight for, why fight at all?
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    How Whitey screwed up Africa

    If the reason for the continuing bloodshed in Africa is the fact that they were occupied and robbed, then why do people keep bringing up the fact that the national lines were drawn without taking into account the different tribes and their different cultures? Wouldn't that part of it ultimately...
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    How Whitey screwed up Africa

    I'm aware of the Schengen bit, and yeah Tony Blair's government took it upon themselves to do away with their internal Visa checks. That's where I said that you're right in that the UK could take greater control of their own system if they chose to. You're right, though, bad argument in terms...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    So, since an economic system of which you approve isn't likely, you're going to fight for ecomomic apocalypse B over economic apocalypse A? Why even bother? And I don't see how other countries are doing it much better than we are, honestly.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Seems like a silly fight. Why not fight to get the people in power to stop trying to plan the f'in economy? Sounds more like tribalism than principle.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    I don't ignore that fact. I simply acknowledge that said fact doesn't make their ideas good ones. There's a lot of daylight between Mao and correct.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    You're probably correct, there. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what your point is.
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    I generally support our economic system. I detest the fed. There's a lot of other free market types of detest the fed. Ever heard of ancaps? The anarcho capitalists, some would say the most extreme capitalist purists out there, don't believe in ANY restrictions on the economy, which means...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    HAHAHA! Here, from Merriam-Websters: : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies Apparently, Merriam and Webster are among the morons, as well. If only the people who wrote the dictionary...
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    If you read the whole post, you might not have to ask. Also, if you classify Canada and Australia as socialist, HOW THE FUCK is Venezuela not!?
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    If socialism is so great, why has almost every country that tried it abandoned it?

    Thanks for the help, bud, but I wasn't looking for an entry point into the discussion. I'm pretty well versed in this particular semantic argument, and you and I are clearly on opposite sides of it. Again, thank you, though.

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