Should we be worried?

[ding]

My overall position is that homes should be better able to withstand all adverse weather conditions, including floods.

Ok, how do propose making structures be made more durable without much extra cost?

 

[ReinyDays]

He never said anything about walls, he stated wind records

A photograph? ...

That is a fact. 120 mph roofs come off. 130 mph walls start to fail.

Hey jc456 ... you're wrong ... he is talking about walls ... Bubba didn't finish Middle School ...

 

[Woodznutz]

Ok, how do propose making structures be made more durable without much extra cost?

We have to determine how much more some buyers would pay for a stronger house, and determine what features other buyers would give up to mitigate the higher costs of a stronger house. Initially it has to be a market-based effort. If such structures prove out, then building codes would lilely follow.

 

[jc456]

A photograph? ...



Hey jc456 ... you're wrong ... he is talking about walls ... Bubba didn't finish Middle School ...

When you act stupid you must be!

Doppler on wheels. Hmmmm you skim over? Or stupid?

...highest wind speeds ever measured globally were recorded at 301 ± 20 miles per hour (484 ± 32 km/h) by a Doppler on Wheels (DOW) radar.

 

[ding]

We have to determine how much more some buyers would pay for a stronger house, and determine what features other buyers would give up to mitigate the higher costs of a stronger house. Initially it has to be a market-based effort. If such structures prove out, then building codes would lilely follow.

You're describing the free market and that has already been done.

 

[ReinyDays]

When you act stupid you must be!

Doppler on wheels. Hmmmm you skim over? Or stupid?

That's what I was acknowledging with the NWS diagram of that tornado ... see the purple zone ... winds were 301 mph there ... not anywhere else ...

Do you have any pictures of this EF-5 damage? ... the most the photo in ding's post is EF-4 ... "houses destroyed and crumpled upon their respective foundations" ... do you see any houses swept clear of their respective foundations? ...

Yes or no ...

 

[Woodznutz]

You're describing the free market and that has already been done.

True. Stronger, and better designed, structures are being built here and there but generally buyers go with conventional construction.

 

[jc456]

That's what I was acknowledging with the NWS diagram of that tornado ... see the purple zone ... winds were 301 mph there ... not anywhere else ...

Do you have any pictures of this EF-5 damage? ... the most the photo in ding's post is EF-4 ... "houses destroyed and crumpled upon their respective foundations" ... do you see any houses swept clear of their respective foundations? ...

Yes or no ...

That’s not his point. Again, highest winds recorded! Never about damage as a result. That’s where you went incorrectly

 

[ReinyDays]

That’s not his point. Again, highest winds recorded! Never about damage as a result. That’s where you went incorrectly

Yes or no ... or are you the stupid one here? ...

 

[ding]

True. Stronger, and better designed, structures are being built here and there but generally buyers go with conventional construction.

All of which will be subject to damage from extreme weather events.

 

[ding]

That's what I was acknowledging with the NWS diagram of that tornado ... see the purple zone ... winds were 301 mph there ... not anywhere else ...

Do you have any pictures of this EF-5 damage? ... the most the photo in ding's post is EF-4 ... "houses destroyed and crumpled upon their respective foundations" ... do you see any houses swept clear of their respective foundations? ...

Yes or no ...

F5 Tornado Damage (Online Tornado FAQ)

May 3, 1999 — The Bridge Creek–Moore Tornado

“If you haven’t gone to the cellar, you really need to go now. This is a huge circulation. There are vortices everywhere. This is extremely dangerous, so you folks in the path of this tornado…

stormstalker.wordpress.com

 

[Woodznutz]

All of which will be subject to damage from extreme weather events.

The point is to reduce such damage as much as is practical.

 

[Sunsettommy]

The point is to reduce such damage as much as is practical.

Then stop building in flood zones, Hurricane landfalling zones, stop building cities are sea level, stop building cities inside of forested areas.... etc......

 

[Woodznutz]

Then stop building in flood zones, Hurricane landfalling zones, stop building cities are sea level, stop building cities inside of forested areas.... etc......

New 'flood zones' are appearing all the time.
Most destructive house fires start inside of the house.

 

[ding]

The point is to reduce such damage as much as is practical.

Your points were that structures should be made to withstand extreme weather events and that can be done without much extra cost. I'm disputing both points.

 

[Woodznutz]

Your points were that structures should be made to withstand extreme weather events and that can be done without much extra cost. I'm disputing both points.

Some can afford it, others would have to sacrifice some bells and whistles, but it certainly can be done. It's like adding extra insulation. The upfront cost might be daunting but the savings in energy costs down the road makes up for it and then some. And as noted, insurance costs would be reduced as well. Another point in my favor is that such homes don't need to be made so large. So called smaller "starter homes" developments used to be common. Let's do that.

 

[ding]

Some can afford it, others would have to sacrifice some bells and whistles, but it certainly can be done. It's like adding extra insulation. The upfront cost might be daunting but the savings in energy costs down the road makes up for it and then some. And as noted, insurance costs would be reduced as well. Another point in my favor is that such homes don't need to be made so large. So called smaller "starter homes" developments used to be common. Let's do that.

How exactly would they be made to be more durable? What needs to be done differently?

 

[Woodznutz]

All of which will be subject to damage from extreme weather events.

How exactly would they be made to be more durable? What needs to be done differently?

Build houses out of solid wood. We do that now. They're called log homes or log cabins. They're stronger against flood, wind, and fire damage.

 

[ding]

Build houses out of solid wood. We do that now. They're called log homes or log cabins. They're stronger against flood, wind, and fire damage.

Do you a link that supports your assertion?

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you a link that supports your assertion?

Of course.

The 5 Ways Log Homes Stand Up To Hurricanes, Tornadoes, And The Tests Of Time

Just hearing the words “log home” might take you back to pioneer days – picturing wood stoves, root cellars, housewives cooking while their husbands are out hunting dinner – but today’s log homes are a far cry from the more primitive, old-fashioned log cabins of yesteryear. In fact, evidence is...

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