No, MAGA Did NOT Lose the 11/2023 Election, Yes Dems Are STILL Doomed in '24

There's literally video of the following afternoon on the link where it shows everyone that they STILL hadn't counted the votes due to having halted that early morning.

But we both know you're not an honest broker.

Besides, you think no one remembers? You really think everyone is that fucking stupid? It was only three years ago.

You must have brain fog from all those boosters.

Either that or you must really hate yourself to be this intellectually dishonest.
You are changing your story

You said that you and your wife watched as Democratic cities around the country all stopped counting at 1AM

You do realize that Republican observers are present at every voting location. If they all shut down at 1AM, why didn’t your observers make a record of it?
Why didn’t they file a protest?
 
You are changing your story

You said that you and your wife watched as Democratic cities around the country all stopped counting at 1AM

You do realize that Republican observers are present at every voting location. If they all shut down at 1AM, why didn’t your observers make a record of it?
Why didn’t they file a protest?

Republican observers got shut out of voting locations you low information drone.

And NO, I am not going to go on a fucking treasure hunt to produce yet another link for you to move the goalposts yet again and ask me to jump through yet another concocted hoop.

All to protect your own (incredibly) fragile ego.

You're just fucking wrong.

All the time.

And wasting mine.

But I'm sure you get that a lot. ;)
 
Republican observers got shut out of voting locations you low information drone.

And NO, I am not going to go on a fucking treasure hunt to produce yet another link for you to move the goalposts yet again and ask me to jump through yet another concocted hoop.

All to protect your own (incredibly) fragile ego.

You're just fucking wrong.

All the time.

And wasting mine.

But I'm sure you get that a lot. ;)

No legal party observers were banned from any voting location
MAGA thugs trying to disrupt the process were excluded

You claimed you saw Democratic cities across the country shut down at 1 AM
You can’t prove it can you?
 
Oh look.

An unlikely event just occurred.

You're wrong for a change.


Time for me to go out and get some fresh air.

Enjoy your day.
As usual
Video evidence does not support Gateway Pundit Claims

Show me any formal complaints issued by actual GOP poll watcher
 
Don’t believe experts…

When the “experts” are lying to me, when they are telling me things that I can easily determine by direct observation and experience to be false, what am I supposed to believe?

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” — George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
 
This.
I remember the very moment, around 1am that they decided to "stop counting" in multiple blue cities in swing states.
I looked over at my wife and said "And so it begins...."
Not this time, motherfuckers.

We certainly saw the graphs like these, from a number of the states:

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Now, you just have to know, that when you see patterns like this, there is something very suspicious going on.

Google doesn't seem to be making it easy to find this, lately. First hit I found was to an article showing the Wisconsin graph, and trying to make some bullshit excuse as to how it did not represent fraud.

Bullshit, I say. When you see a pattern like that in cumulative vote-counting results, there is fraud.

Similarly, I've seen bullshit attempts to explain away multiple instances of Benford's Law deviancies, in some of the election results.

And then there's this video that clearly, undeniably shows Ruby Freeman tampering with ballots, and all the rather blatantly bullshit explanations that have been given as to how this does not clearly show her committing election fraud.



The 2020 election was stolen, right in front of our eyes; they didn't even try very hard to hide what they were doing.

But WrongWhiner wants us to all trust the “experts”, that are trying to tell us that we did not see what we all very clearly saw. “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.”
 
^^^ NAILED IT! I would add ALSO these RINO MF'ers blow elections then have the audacity to blame Trump for the losses.

McConnel is solely responsible for losing control of the Senate in the GA runoffs. Trump tried to tell the idiot he was blowing it. So Biden BRIBED GA voters with $2000 checks each Dem vote. McConnel ran to the cameras to tell GA voters no way you will get that $2,000 per person Covid check from him or Republicans. BAM just like that we lost both GA seats and control of the Senate.

Dumb ass McConnel then ran to the cameras and blamed it all on Trump.

Donald Trump has bankrupted Republican state parties by installing "loyalist" state leaders who don't know how to raise funds, but are willing to challenge election results in the courts on no evidence. Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania State Republican are all broke from fighting for Trump.

Republican voters have primaried anyone who refused to say the election was stolen and Trump really won. None of these election deniers won the SoS job in their states, but that hasn''t stopped the Cult from continuing to threaten election workers across the country.

Last but not least, having an incompetent authoritarian idiot as your Presidential candidate discourages "quality candidates" from running under the Republican banner. What you're getting are the corrupt, the crazy, and opportunistic people, and as the vetting of George Santos shows, Republicans had so much trouble finding "loyal" candidates to run they'd take anyone willing to support Trump and run for office, whether qualified or not.
 
When the “experts” are lying to me, when they are telling me things that I can easily determine by direct observation and experience to be false, what am I supposed to believe?

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” — George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

That's what Donald Trump is telling you to do. Don't believe what you see and hear. Believe what he says, even though he's lying to you about nearly everything.
 
That's what Donald Trump is telling you to do. Don't believe what you see and hear. Believe what he says, even though he's lying to you about nearly everything.

You're a subject/slave of Canaduh, a nation founded in shame and cowardice.

Nothing that you have to say about any aspect of American governance has any relevance at all.
 
Donald Trump has bankrupted Republican state parties by installing "loyalist" state leaders who don't know how to raise funds, but are willing to challenge election results in the courts on no evidence. Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania State Republican are all broke from fighting for Trump.

Republican voters have primaried anyone who refused to say the election was stolen and Trump really won. None of these election deniers won the SoS job in their states, but that hasn''t stopped the Cult from continuing to threaten election workers across the country.

Last but not least, having an incompetent authoritarian idiot as your Presidential candidate discourages "quality candidates" from running under the Republican banner. What you're getting are the corrupt, the crazy, and opportunistic people, and as the vetting of George Santos shows, Republicans had so much trouble finding "loyal" candidates to run they'd take anyone willing to support Trump and run for office, whether qualified or not.

Republicans have redefined RINO to mean someone who will not support Trumps lies
 
Yet you willingly accept his lies regardless of how unbelievable and extreme they are
The "lies" you speak of were seen as truth in 3 inquiries, 1 Mueller's Report, two fake impeachments and 3,000 lies a day televised 10 times a day by 300 tv stations nationwide, and who knows how many radio broadcasts claiming this that or the other Trump wrongdoing that had zero evidence when it came to proving it. You were saying, I mean, blathering... ?

 
The "lies" you speak of were seen as truth in 3 inquiries, 1 Mueller's Report, two fake impeachments and 3,000 lies a day televised 10 times a day by 300 tv stations nationwide, and who knows how many radio broadcasts claiming this that or the other Trump wrongdoing that had zero evidence when it came to proving it. You were saying, I mean, blathering... ?


Let me give you an example of Trump lying to his followers and them blindly accepting the lie.

During Hurricane Dorian, Trump mistakenly claimed the hurricane was headed to Alabama. Rather than just admit he was mistaken, Trump pressured forecasters to change their forecast to include Alabama.
Of course hurricane experts refused,

So, Trump pulled out his Sharpie and changed it himself



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And you wonder why Trump followers so readily believe the lie that he won the 2020 election?
 
Let me give you an example of Trump lying to his followers and them blindly accepting the lie.

During Hurricane Dorian, Trump mistakenly claimed the hurricane was headed to Alabama. Rather than just admit he was mistaken, Trump pressured forecasters to change their forecast to include Alabama.
Of course hurricane experts refused,

So, Trump pulled out his Sharpie and changed it himself



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And you wonder why Trump followers so readily believe the lie that he won the 2020 election?
So he communicated his self-correction with a Sharpie instead of words? Where do you get this word "lie" every time you mention President Trump? Democrats should lighten up when viewing weather reports. Indicting someone for misinterpreting a map is low ball. For that matter, the Democrats are ready to indict at the failure to dot an "i" or cross a "t" What a strange world you TDS guys are turning politics into.
 
So he communicated his self-correction with a Sharpie instead of words? Where do you get this word "lie" every time you mention President Trump? Democrats should lighten up when viewing weather reports. Indicting someone for misinterpreting a map is low ball. For that matter, the Democrats are ready to indict at the failure to dot an "i" or cross a "t" What a strange world you TDS guys are turning politics into.
What is the matter with Trump followers?

Trump could not admit even a simple mistake
So he tried to pressure Hurricane forecasters to support his mistake

When they wouldn’t change the map, Trump did it himself.

Can you see why Trump followers are ridiculed?
 
First of all, let me clearly preface this by saying resoundingly: I am not claiming MAGA won on Tuesday night.

Nor am I asserting that the GOP does not have lamentable problems from a ground-game/strategic perspective.

We should dispatch Ronna McDaniel and the GOP Establishment post-haste, and install someone like Scott Pressler who has an actual passion to win - and not just enrich himself from the status quo.

That said, the current Dem narrative regarding 11/7 must be subverted, and can easily be for one simple reason: It is entirely false.

I will summon up as much brevity as I can muster, but sometimes a guy just has to get something out of his system. ;)

So away we go:

First off. Context.

Dems: MAGA hasn't won an election since 2016!!!

Really?

2018: Dems win the House, Republicans retain the Senate in the mid-terms. No real debate from anyone halfway credible that this was pretty ho-hum and to be expected, so let's not dwell.

2020: This, of course, is the big one with both sides being tenaciously entrenched in their camps. But let us play make believe for a moment. Let's concede that none of the irregularities occurred, the Media did not lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, and we didn't have the strangest most communist election since any of us were alive due to a virus with a .2% mortality rate.

IE, for the most part, everything was on the up and up. Laughable, I know, but stick with me here.

Two things:

1) Biden still barely won, with eminently superior approval numbers than the abyss he's currently traversing. We're talking just a few thousand votes in a few swing states scattered in just the right delicate amalgamation. It wasn't some fucking epic victory - at all. And, again, that's pretending there was anything even remotely legit about it with no ballot harvesting/printing or media chicanery whatsoever.

2) And this one truly grinds my gears because even Right Wing doomers forget this: Democrats ALSO had a horrible night in 2020. Despite having been projected to widen gains in the House amidst a Biden "victory", they actually lost seats to the point where Pelosi was commanding the smallest majority since World War fucking 2. (The exact majority the Republicans preside over now. Oh the irony.)

And in the Senate the Dems way under performed their numbers, barely taking the chamber only thanks to the tie breaking vote of the cackling menace who is now helping to drag down their 2024 prospects in no small way, along with a demoralized MAGA base that refused to turn out to vote for the stooges running in the Georgia run offs that year.

So even if you buy the narrative on 2020 (and none of us with any self respect or critical thinking abilities do), it is nothing less than simplistic dreck to brazenly declare "MAGA LOST IN 2020!"

3) 2022: Republicans undeniably had a far weaker performance than anticipated. (Red Trickle).

But:

a) Mitch McConnell and the Establishment in the Senate withheld support and funding from MAGA candidates

and

b) The Republicans actually had significant victories in deep blue territory where they were expected to barely even compete. (We're talkin' NY/CA as the most prominent examples.) And here's the kicker: Whyyyyy were they able to do this?

BALLOT HARVESTING.

In NY/CA the state parties wizened up and defeated the Dems at their own crooked game. And we would not enjoy our current House majority had we neglected to do so.

But this is a massive, gaping hole in the Corporate Media's narrative, so of course they make sure to always neglect to mention this to their Legions of unquestioning zombie leftists.

Which brings us to 2023:

In Kentucky a well liked Democrat good ole' boy defeated a Mitch McConnell backed opponent who Trump endorsed only in the closing weeks. He also happened to be a bad candidate who only mentioned his Trump endorsement without telling the people what he would actually do for them. Meanwhile, every other statewide Republican won.

In short, if you think Kentucky is going blue in '24, you're an abject imbecile.

In Virginia, Republicans won every single district that was Biden +8 or less, and retained every single Trump district.
If you didn't already know this, let that one sink in, because it's another cannon blast to the pirate ship of media propaganda about "STUNNING DEFEAT FOR THE GOP" yadda yadda.

The truth is, as many other astute posters on here have previously alluded to, VA is still a blue state. But Dems only picked up the Legislature due to winning districts Biden had won by double digits in 2020.

IE, it was always going to be a monumental task to wrest the state away from the Democrat machine.

Then, of course, the state that completes the Trifecta of 2023 woe is Ohio, where abortion won big.

And now we come to the part where we explode the biggest component of the Dems' talking point arsenal:

ABORTION.

To put it as succinctly as possible, the abortion predicament for the GOP has just about run its course.

To understand this, we have to recognize one of the largest transformations of the electorate and the way it behaves since Good Time Donnie arrived on the scene.

And that is: The GOP becoming a working class/middle class coalition that participates exponentially more so in Presidential years, and the Dems becoming a cloistered rickety partnership between the wealthy and their poor minority beneficiary class.

The precise opposite used to hold true: Dems turned out more in Presidential years, but their voting attendance waned in "off years".

Now, with the virtual transformation of the voters who comprise the two parties, it's vice versa. The most conventional media hack like Larry Sabato or Nate Silver wouldn't dispute this.

And what does that mean? It means, that not only are Republicans now weaker in "off years", because our coalition doesn't turn up - but it also means abortion won't mean jackshit in 2024. It is way down the list of issues voters care about in every poll under the sun, and the voters who do prioritize it will make up nowhere near the sizeable contingency of the electorate that they enjoy in "off years".

Couple that with the fact that Biden is bleeding his coalition of minority and young voters, and it spells intense foreboding for the Party that currently possesses the White House.

To conclude, if you're a Leftist who thinks Tuesday night augurs well for your Party a year from now, you just aren't taking a deep dive into the way the electorate now functions.

And if you're a Right Wing doomer who thinks we're weaker with Trump on the ticket, or "ABORTION" will now defeat MAGA.

You're just paying attention to the wrong people.

The truth is the GOP are royally screwed without Trump. When conservatives complain he's not really a conservative? They're right! At least, in the conventional sense. Much of his vote comes from people who won't vote for the rest of the GOP unless Orange Man is on the ticket.

It may be a cliche' but right now it is as true as ever:

It is always darkest before the dawn.

And there's another little saying that comes to mind.

What was that now?

Oh yeah:

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. ;)

MAGA got it's ass handed to it in every election since 2016.

That's an 8 year losing streak.

That will continue next year.

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First of all, let me clearly preface this by saying resoundingly: I am not claiming MAGA won on Tuesday night.

Nor am I asserting that the GOP does not have lamentable problems from a ground-game/strategic perspective.

We should dispatch Ronna McDaniel and the GOP Establishment post-haste, and install someone like Scott Pressler who has an actual passion to win - and not just enrich himself from the status quo.

That said, the current Dem narrative regarding 11/7 must be subverted, and can easily be for one simple reason: It is entirely false.

I will summon up as much brevity as I can muster, but sometimes a guy just has to get something out of his system. ;)

So away we go:

First off. Context.

Dems: MAGA hasn't won an election since 2016!!!

Really?

2018: Dems win the House, Republicans retain the Senate in the mid-terms. No real debate from anyone halfway credible that this was pretty ho-hum and to be expected, so let's not dwell.

2020: This, of course, is the big one with both sides being tenaciously entrenched in their camps. But let us play make believe for a moment. Let's concede that none of the irregularities occurred, the Media did not lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, and we didn't have the strangest most communist election since any of us were alive due to a virus with a .2% mortality rate.

IE, for the most part, everything was on the up and up. Laughable, I know, but stick with me here.

Two things:

1) Biden still barely won, with eminently superior approval numbers than the abyss he's currently traversing. We're talking just a few thousand votes in a few swing states scattered in just the right delicate amalgamation. It wasn't some fucking epic victory - at all. And, again, that's pretending there was anything even remotely legit about it with no ballot harvesting/printing or media chicanery whatsoever.

2) And this one truly grinds my gears because even Right Wing doomers forget this: Democrats ALSO had a horrible night in 2020. Despite having been projected to widen gains in the House amidst a Biden "victory", they actually lost seats to the point where Pelosi was commanding the smallest majority since World War fucking 2. (The exact majority the Republicans preside over now. Oh the irony.)

And in the Senate the Dems way under performed their numbers, barely taking the chamber only thanks to the tie breaking vote of the cackling menace who is now helping to drag down their 2024 prospects in no small way, along with a demoralized MAGA base that refused to turn out to vote for the stooges running in the Georgia run offs that year.

So even if you buy the narrative on 2020 (and none of us with any self respect or critical thinking abilities do), it is nothing less than simplistic dreck to brazenly declare "MAGA LOST IN 2020!"

3) 2022: Republicans undeniably had a far weaker performance than anticipated. (Red Trickle).

But:

a) Mitch McConnell and the Establishment in the Senate withheld support and funding from MAGA candidates

and

b) The Republicans actually had significant victories in deep blue territory where they were expected to barely even compete. (We're talkin' NY/CA as the most prominent examples.) And here's the kicker: Whyyyyy were they able to do this?

BALLOT HARVESTING.

In NY/CA the state parties wizened up and defeated the Dems at their own crooked game. And we would not enjoy our current House majority had we neglected to do so.

But this is a massive, gaping hole in the Corporate Media's narrative, so of course they make sure to always neglect to mention this to their Legions of unquestioning zombie leftists.

Which brings us to 2023:

In Kentucky a well liked Democrat good ole' boy defeated a Mitch McConnell backed opponent who Trump endorsed only in the closing weeks. He also happened to be a bad candidate who only mentioned his Trump endorsement without telling the people what he would actually do for them. Meanwhile, every other statewide Republican won.

In short, if you think Kentucky is going blue in '24, you're an abject imbecile.

In Virginia, Republicans won every single district that was Biden +8 or less, and retained every single Trump district.
If you didn't already know this, let that one sink in, because it's another cannon blast to the pirate ship of media propaganda about "STUNNING DEFEAT FOR THE GOP" yadda yadda.

The truth is, as many other astute posters on here have previously alluded to, VA is still a blue state. But Dems only picked up the Legislature due to winning districts Biden had won by double digits in 2020.

IE, it was always going to be a monumental task to wrest the state away from the Democrat machine.

Then, of course, the state that completes the Trifecta of 2023 woe is Ohio, where abortion won big.

And now we come to the part where we explode the biggest component of the Dems' talking point arsenal:

ABORTION.

To put it as succinctly as possible, the abortion predicament for the GOP has just about run its course.

To understand this, we have to recognize one of the largest transformations of the electorate and the way it behaves since Good Time Donnie arrived on the scene.

And that is: The GOP becoming a working class/middle class coalition that participates exponentially more so in Presidential years, and the Dems becoming a cloistered rickety partnership between the wealthy and their poor minority beneficiary class.

The precise opposite used to hold true: Dems turned out more in Presidential years, but their voting attendance waned in "off years".

Now, with the virtual transformation of the voters who comprise the two parties, it's vice versa. The most conventional media hack like Larry Sabato or Nate Silver wouldn't dispute this.

And what does that mean? It means, that not only are Republicans now weaker in "off years", because our coalition doesn't turn up - but it also means abortion won't mean jackshit in 2024. It is way down the list of issues voters care about in every poll under the sun, and the voters who do prioritize it will make up nowhere near the sizeable contingency of the electorate that they enjoy in "off years".

Couple that with the fact that Biden is bleeding his coalition of minority and young voters, and it spells intense foreboding for the Party that currently possesses the White House.

To conclude, if you're a Leftist who thinks Tuesday night augurs well for your Party a year from now, you just aren't taking a deep dive into the way the electorate now functions.

And if you're a Right Wing doomer who thinks we're weaker with Trump on the ticket, or "ABORTION" will now defeat MAGA.

You're just paying attention to the wrong people.

The truth is the GOP are royally screwed without Trump. When conservatives complain he's not really a conservative? They're right! At least, in the conventional sense. Much of his vote comes from people who won't vote for the rest of the GOP unless Orange Man is on the ticket.

It may be a cliche' but right now it is as true as ever:

It is always darkest before the dawn.

And there's another little saying that comes to mind.

What was that now?

Oh yeah:

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. ;)
Outta the park, RhodyPatriot!
 

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