80 % of Georgians want to join the European Union. Thats why Moscow imperialists hate them I Georgia is Europe ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ Muscovy is Asia

do you support Georgians?

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Litwin

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do you support Georgians?
The European future of the Georgian people cannot be taken away....
Georgia is Europe ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ Muscovy is Asia
"Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."โ€”gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.โ€” thomas gomart, 20062 "
 
They want to concede their autonomy to an unelected bureaucracy? How dumb is that?
The thread is based on this article;

Why Georgiaโ€™s government thinks it can scorn the EU and keep its grip on power​

Some 80 percent of Georgians want to join the EU, which begs the question of why the ruling party feels so secure.
"TBILISI โ€” Eighty percent of Georgians want to join the European Union, so how can the government be so confident it will hold onto power by spurning Brussels and seemingly deliberately torpedoing the nationโ€™s EU prospects?

Thatโ€™s the political paradox at the heart of the crisis gripping the country.

In a sharp slap in the face to the EU, the ruling Georgian Dream party has passed Russian-style legislation that Brussels fears could be used to label media, think-tanks and NGOs with even a drop of Western funding as โ€œforeign agents,โ€ crimping freedom of speech.. . . "


How do we KNOW that eighty percent of Georgians want to join the EU? No link to any sort of polling. . . what, just because this author said so? Where are the receipts? And yeah, this behavior from an elected government seems suspect if the number that don't support it, is truly that high. . .

You'd have to be a sucker or dupe to bleev the rest of this propaganda, really. . .

More from article. . .

Uneven playing field​

". . Georgian Dream also oversees a powerful network of supportive media outlets that have cast its crusade against LGBTQ+ rights and civil society as an effort to stand up for Georgian values. A 2021 U.N. report found a highly polarized television and print environment, with outlets showing deference either to the government or to select opposition parties.
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Georgian Dream also oversees a powerful network of supportive media outlets that have cast its crusade against LGBTQ+ rights. | Vano Shlamov/AFP via Getty Images

At the same time, elections in Georgia, according to the OSCE, have been marred by allegations of intimidation, vote-buying and even the arrest of prominent political opponents such as former President Saakashvili, who stands accused of abusing his office. Meanwhile, Georgian Dreamโ€™s โ€œmisuse of administrative resourcesโ€ is said to have given it a substantial advantage in turning out its vote, the OSCE says.

But even despite their frustrations, many Georgians say they donโ€™t see a clear alternative to the ruling party. The countryโ€™s largest opposition bloc, the United National Movement founded by Saakashvili, has struggled to distance itself from criticism of his time in office, marked by allegations of cronyism and a cult of personality.

While pro-government and anti-government demonstrations have now become a regular feature outside Georgiaโ€™s grand, Soviet-built parliament building, journalists say they have been shut out of its hallways for weeks as the political row grows to prevent them confronting lawmakers.

At a meeting in her office in the assembly building, Tinatin Bokuchava, the leader of the United National Movement (UNM) โ€” Georgiaโ€™s largest opposition faction โ€” told POLITICO that her party faces an uphill struggle to convince people to vote out Georgian Dream in order to fulfil their European ambitions. . . . "


This is nothing but propaganda, trying to sway folks to bleev that a majority of Georgians want to be closer to the West than Russia. . why else would the west be sending in agitators, spies and community organizers that get arrested for doing that shit?

Because, YEAH! Everyone lerves them some LGTQIAOHGMIORN subvervion in their nation??!?

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America? Acts always in the interest of all citizens and only in "humanitarian" interests and for "democracy," never for just its national interest. :rolleyes:


When Russia does? It is always, ALWAYS evil.

Americaโ€™s Staggering Hypocrisy​

March 4, 2014

The WPostโ€™s Double Standards

"A stunning example of the U.S. mediaโ€™s double standards is the Washington Postโ€™s editorial-page editor Fred Hiatt, who pushed for the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 by treating the existence of Iraqโ€™s non-existent WMD as โ€œflat fact,โ€ not an allegation in dispute. After the U.S. invasion and months of fruitless searching for the promised WMD caches, Hiatt finally acknowledged that the Post should have been more circumspect in its claims about the WMD.

โ€œIf you look at the editorials we write running up [to the war], we state as flat fact that he [Saddam Hussein] has weapons of mass destruction,โ€ Hiatt said in an interview with the Columbia Journalism Review. โ€œIf thatโ€™s not true, it would have been better not to say it.โ€ [CJR, March/April 2004]

Yes, that is a principle of journalism, if something isnโ€™t true, weโ€™re not supposed to say that it is. Yet, despite the enormous cost in blood and treasure from the Iraq War and despite the undeniable fact that the U.S. invasion of Iraq was a clear violation of international law nothing happened to Hiatt. He remains in the same job today, more than a decade later. . . "

<snip>


Pushing for a New Cold War

"And, what do Hiatt and other neocons at the Washington Post say about confronting the Russians over the Ukraine crisis, which was stoked by neocon holdovers in the U.S. State Department, such as Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, and the U.S.-funded National Endowment for Democracy, which was founded in 1983 to replace the CIA in the business of destabilizing targeted governments? [See Consortiumnews.comโ€™s โ€œWhat Neocons Want from Ukraine Crisis.โ€]

The Post is demanding a new Cold War with Russia in retaliation for its relatively non-violent interventions to protect pro-Russian provinces of two countries that were carved out of the old Soviet Union: Georgia where Russian troops have protected South Ossetia and Abkhazia since 2008 and in Ukraine where Russian soldiers have taken control of Crimea. In both cases, the pro-Russian areas felt threatened from their central governments and sought Moscowโ€™s assistance.

In the case of Ukraine, a neo-Nazi-led putsch representing the interests of the western part of the country overthrew the democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, who came from the eastern region. Then, under the watchful eye of the neo-Nazi storm troopers in Kiev, a rump parliament voted unanimously or near unanimously to enact a series of draconian laws offensive to the ethnic Russian areas in the east and south.

Having fled Kiev for his life, Yanukovych asked Russia for help, which led to Putinโ€™s request to the Russian parliament for the authority to deploy troops inside Ukraine, essentially taking control of Crimea in the south, an area that has been part of Russia for centuries.

Though the Russian case for intervention in both Georgia and Ukraine is much stronger than the excuses often used by the United States to intervene in other countries, the Washington Post was apoplectic about Russiaโ€™s โ€œviolationโ€ of suddenly sacred international law. . . ."
 
Yup, another lie that โ€œ80%โ€ of them want to join the EU.

What happened to democracy? Shouldnโ€™t their elected government reflect this?

Why donโ€™t they just vote them out of office?

Or could it be this is just more anti-Russian/pro-EU propaganda?

Let me guess, Western countries will support a coup and overthrow of the elected government in Georgia just like they did in Ukraine in 2014. Because you know, we respect โ€œdemocracyโ€ so much? It will of course lead to destabilization and civil war in Georgia so the US State Department can plant a puppet regime there, just like they did in Ukraine.
 
All African countries dream to join EU too
better them than you ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ”

any comment on this ?
 
Yup, another lie that โ€œ80%โ€ of them want to join the EU.

What happened to democracy?
this is what happened to Gerogian Democracy

the ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆhorde 's "quiet invasion" in Georgia | 60 Minutes​




any comment on this ?
 
Georgia's ruling party is strategically smart by charting a middle course between Russia and the EU, depicting itself as neither pro-Russian nor anti-EU. The ruling Georgian Dream party is so popular and around 31 percent of the public supports the ruling party. Ukraine should have emulated the former Soviet republic to avoid conflicts with Russia.

When it comes to the Kremlin, it accuses the opposition of being the danger-men and risking conflict with Russia โ€” citing the jailed opposition firebrand, former President Mikheil Saakashvili, who lost a war to Russia in 2008, as a classic example.

It also claims that it supports EU membership โ€” but wants it on its own terms, without the emphasis on LGBTQ+ rights and without meddling foreign media and rights groups.

 
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this is what happened to Gerogian Democracy

the ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆhorde 's "quiet invasion" in Georgia | 60 Minutes​




any comment on this ?

I see you still canโ€™t make any coherent response. Just more pasting some lame ass anti-Russian propaganda.
 
I see you still canโ€™t make any coherent response. Just more pasting some lame ass anti-Russian propaganda.
It is. It has nothing to do with this;

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That is, indeed, propaganda.

They are just doing a live, nationwide reading of some famous dissident Soviet era literature. . with a spooky theme.

Star-studded line-up for nationwide Master and Margarita read-a-thon​

Politicians, actors, athletes and entrepreneurs are participating in the reading of Mikhail Bulgakovโ€™s novel "Master and Margarita. I was there."

The Master and Margarita

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Lol they have nothing to offer the EU. What a stupid thread.
 
It is. It has nothing to do with this;

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That is, indeed, propaganda.

They are just doing a live, nationwide reading of some famous dissident Soviet era literature. . with a spooky theme.

Star-studded line-up for nationwide Master and Margarita read-a-thon​

Politicians, actors, athletes and entrepreneurs are participating in the reading of Mikhail Bulgakovโ€™s novel "Master and Margarita. I was there."

The Master and Margarita

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yes, 'Breaking up Moscow empire is the only way to end its imperialism', And I donโ€™t say just Putinยดs imperialism, but Moscow ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆimperialism in general , from Solzhenitsyn, Dostoyevsky and Brodsky to Yeltsin and Dugin.

Timothy Snyder: " Dostoyevsky is an ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ imperial writer "​



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I see you still canโ€™t make any coherent response. Just more pasting some lame ass anti-Russian propaganda.
you are a Muscovite appeaser, so typical for ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿคก MAGA GANG




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Most easrern european countries would like the benefits of being in the EU. Whether they should or not is another matter.
They do not share basic liberal values in many cases.The exmples of Poland and especially Hungary are damning.
I have my doubts over Ukraine as well.
 
To understand how the USA works in Georgia:

The Georgian parliament, which recently passed a law โ€œon foreign agents,โ€ explained that there are 25,000 foreign NPOs operating in the country, 90% of which receive money from abroad.

This is one NPO per 150 residents of Georgia, including officials, law enforcers, military, elderly, women and children.

The U.S. is actually pouring money into Georgians to make the country โ€œanti-Russiaโ€, paying for any manifestation of Russophobia and actions aimed at war with Russia.

The U.S. is ready to print dollars for war with Russia indefinitely, just to fight Russia with foreign hands, using every traitor of its people to the maximum.

The fact that Georgia is still holding on is a source of respect, there are real patriots of their country in power there now, who are blocking any attempts of the US to drag Georgia into a war with Russia and sanctions fornication.
 
To understand how the USA works in Georgia:

The Georgian parliament, which recently passed a law โ€œon foreign agents,โ€ explained that there are 25,000 foreign NPOs operating in the country, 90% of which receive money from abroad.

This is one NPO per 150 residents of Georgia, including officials, law enforcers, military, elderly, women and children.

The U.S. is actually pouring money into Georgians to make the country โ€œanti-Russiaโ€, paying for any manifestation of Russophobia and actions aimed at war with Russia.

The U.S. is ready to print dollars for war with Russia indefinitely, just to fight Russia with foreign hands, using every traitor of its people to the maximum.

The fact that Georgia is still holding on is a source of respect, there are real patriots of their country in power there now, who are blocking any attempts of the US to drag Georgia into a war with Russia and sanctions fornication.

death to the ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿท๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บhorde !
 

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