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Old 01-17-2013, 06:52 AM
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Has anybody read this book? A great deal of how they came to be has to do with Wikileaks, due to their cyber attack on Paypal regarding their nonsupportive stance toward Assange.

Oh shoot. I tried to link the book, as well as the wiki on "Operation Payback, but I haven't posted enough.

It was very interesting, IMO.
Anonymous predates wikileaks by a number of years.
Yes, I know. But how they came to be hacktivists rather than whatever they were before is part of how things unfold in the book.
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Has anybody read this book? A great deal of how they came to be has to do with Wikileaks, due to their cyber attack on Paypal regarding their nonsupportive stance toward Assange.

Oh shoot. I tried to link the book, as well as the wiki on "Operation Payback, but I haven't posted enough.

It was very interesting, IMO.
Anonymous was around well before the Julian Assange case. Maybe not as publicly. They're just 4-channers, some of whom are very talented with computers, while most are just filler to beef up the numbers.

Anonymous vs Scientology is my favorite cause of theirs.
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No good came of Wikileaks sharing names and addresses of America's Afghanistan's collaborators. They killed them and their extended families in many cases, and a number of same-name people who had no pony in the race. That's why we had to stay longer than planned and can't leave now until that is dealt with.
Wikileaks extended the Afghanistan war. It's evil to betray a nation providing protection for women who used to get murdered under the umbrella of Sharia law. It's been used too many times to murder innocent women whose only crime was not being as pretty as the next wife who wished her ill.
Any links to your absurd pro war mongering claims?
Here are some articles related to those claims: Wikileaks Afghanistan: Taliban 'hunting down informants' - Telegraph
| details worth the risk -The Australian

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Has anybody read this book? A great deal of how they came to be has to do with Wikileaks, due to their cyber attack on Paypal regarding their nonsupportive stance toward Assange.

Oh shoot. I tried to link the book, as well as the wiki on "Operation Payback, but I haven't posted enough.

It was very interesting, IMO.
Anonymous was around well before the Julian Assange case. Maybe not as publicly. They're just 4-channers, some of whom are very talented with computers, while most are just filler to beef up the numbers.

Anonymous vs Scientology is my favorite cause of theirs.
I misstated - I was trying to say "how they came to be (who they are now)" - not that that's when they came into existence.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Delia View Post
Has anybody read this book? A great deal of how they came to be has to do with Wikileaks, due to their cyber attack on Paypal regarding their nonsupportive stance toward Assange.

Oh shoot. I tried to link the book, as well as the wiki on "Operation Payback, but I haven't posted enough.

It was very interesting, IMO.
Actually you have it backwards. It was thanks to Anonymous that Wikileaks became as big as it did. Who do you it was that got Julian all those dox?

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I thin that Anonymous was a good idea, but it became a violent group attacking everybody.
Not everyone. Only the people that truly deserve it. People like Hal Turner, Chris Forcand, and the like.

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I think it will just continue to morph as needed. It's not any one person. As the book pointed out, five-six of them were taken down by the law, and there are probably 100 to replace each of them. There is no leader.
"We are Legion." Remember that. Anon is far bigger than anyone thinks.

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Everybody can join them and submit to attack anyone/thing. Its an internet comunity, which just overcharge servers using tools everybody can load in the internet.
Wrong again. You can't just post a website/facebook page/whatever and say "Attack this guy." Anonymous is not your own personal army.

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Nope, they're all harmless on the murder front. Places like 4chan though, where a lot of Anonymous got started; they destroy people in other ways.

I don't know if there's a list. I do know that they mostly go after corporations, rather than individuals.
Yeah... 4chan is a special place.
When I was with them, our biggest mission was Operation Chanology. I "left" sometime after that (right after Rubico hacked Palin's email), as college became more important than activism.

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The possibility exists that they will use their abilities for 'good.' That's the direction this current group appears to be taking, anyway.

Are they the ones who claimed they had Romney's tax returns last year?
The thing you have to understand about Anonymous is that they're neither good nor evil. They do what they want.


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Anonymous was around well before the Julian Assange case. Maybe not as publicly. They're just 4-channers, some of whom are very talented with computers, while most are just filler to beef up the numbers.

Anonymous vs Scientology is my favorite cause of theirs.
Actually, most Anons do serve a purpose of some sort. Like any group of people, not everyone is good at everything. There were the hackers, yes, but (at least during Chanology), you had the guys (like me) actively protesting, and you had the organizers, then ones keeping track of everyone, and so on.

But that was a long time ago. I'm out of touch with Anon now. I'm sure that they are watching this website, by the way, so hi Anon. I hope they don't mind me talking about them since it's not in any negative light. I'm just speaking from experience from back then.
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That's what I've been thinking since I read the book. They can 'use their power' for good or evil.

I wouldn't want to get on their bad side.
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Anonymous is easily infiltrated

I believe Anonymous is a bunch of feds and cia agents posing as hackers to help get the internet censored. All of the hack attacks have done nothing but test the waters. They are trying to get leverage so the UN can clamp down on free speech on the internet.
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"Anonymous" is essentially a vigilante organization. It is the inevitable result of degenerate government; there is no example of degenerate government NOT producing adversaries that don't play by establishment rules.

One certainly hopes that Anonymous doesn't stop with exposing US government crimes in Afghanistan as well as rock solid evidence proving Afghan "allies" serving side by side with Americans are killing larger numbers of American troops than previously admitted by the filthy god damned scum in the Emerald City. Not to mention soldiers of other nations stupid enough to meddle in Afghan business are being killed by Afghans serving side by side with them.

No regular citizen of any nation need fear Anonymous.

And one hopes that eventually Anonymous will take a larger role in redressing government scumminess and corporate degeneracies. A much larger and more physical role.
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