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Old 03-21-2011, 04:37 PM
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are we not dumb to allow this to happen,
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:41 PM
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Assange committed espionage against the United States. He and his treasonous little sidekick deserve to go to prison... for decades. We got one of 'em. I sincerely hope we get the other.
treason ?...I do not believe he released anything top secret
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Follow up of above.

'Manning: Before Wikileaks, Leaked Docs Offered to NYT, WaPo'

'Whistleblower reads prepared statement: Wanted documents to reveal "true costs of war"'

"I felt we were risking so much for people who seemed to be unwilling to cooperate with us leading to frustration and hostility on both sides. I began to get depressed about he situation we were mired in year after year.

"We were obsessed with capturing and killing human targets on lists and ignoring goals and missions. I believed if the public, particularly the American public, could see this it could spark a debate on the military and our foreign policy in general as it applied to Iraq and Afghanistan. It might cause society to reconsider the need to engage in counter terrorism while ignoring the human situation of the people we engaged with every day."

Manning: Before Wikileaks, Leaked Docs Offered to NYT, WaPo | Common Dreams
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I find the outrage over Wikileaks hypocritical. It is curious how we so easily defend truth and then when it is uncomfortable run and hide. What happened to all this horsepucky about freedom of the press. Where is that 'liberal' media we hear about so often? What about the Pentagon papers or Deep Throat, were they not helpful in presenting just a bit of the backroom shenanigans? Or are the insiders the only ones allowed to spread information even when it is total BS.

A single day of Fox talking heads is so full of distortion, lies, and omissions that a person's head should spin. The nuns warned us that omission is sin too! Remember Colin Powell's pack of BS to the UN? Is that OK but truth not? Consider the distortions in the New York Times, as well as most MSM, leading up to Iraq, was that OK. Thousands died over that bit of baloney. Can Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, and other right wing talking heads say any idiocy so long as it is untrue or exaggerated? Consider the WMDs that Cheney found daily and are still found by some, to this day, on a weekly basis? Is that OK? Corporate MSM media had a real scare and wants freedom only in slogan.

"Jack Goldsmith has seven thoughts on Wikileaks, and they may surprise you: “I find myself agreeing with those who think Assange is being unduly vilified. …” “I do not understand why so much ire is directed at Assange and so little at the New York Times. …” The War Against Wikileaks, Julian Assange, and the First Amendment | The Moderate Voice

"Julian Assange, founder of the notorious website WikiLeaks, should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom."

"Ultimately, of the 251,287 leaked dispatches dating back to 1966, none were labeled “top secret” and only 15,652, or 6 percent, were labeled “secret.” The rest carried the lower security classifications of “confidential” or “classified.”" THOMAS LUCENTE: Give WikiLeaks founder a medal, not jail time | wikileaks, assange, medal - Opinion - Northwest Florida Daily News


US air force blocks staff from websites carrying WikiLeaks cables | World news | The Guardian

WikiLeaks embassy cables: the key points at a glance | World news | guardian.co.uk


"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," the chief prosecutor said, but declined to go into any more details." Sweden drops Assange rape charge - Europe - Al Jazeera English

Wikileaks: Julian Assange's 2 one-night stands spark a worldwide hunt | Mail Online

It's your guy in the WH. You can't blame this one on Bush. What happened to "freedom of the press"? What happened to the "most open administration in history"? Hussein won't even talk to the press. It ain't hypocrisy when the freaking traitor pleaded guilty. My guess is that Manning thought he would be a left wing hero as it seems he is to the radicals but it didn't work out that way.
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What have we learned?

"The debate in the media, and in political, circles over Edward Snowden--Right or Wrong--often doubles back on references to Pfc. Manning, who was sentenced to 35 years in prison this morning. Too often (that is, most of the time), the value and import of the Manning/WikiLeaks disclosures are ignored or dismissed, just as Snowden's NSA scoops often derided as "nothing new."

So for those who either suffer from memory loss or ignorance on this particular score, here is a partial accounting of some of the important revelations in the Manning leak, drawn from my book--with Kevin Gosztola--on the Manning case, Truth and Consequences (now, thanks to the miracle of modern publishing, updated to include the verdict and sentencing and reactions)."

Pressing Issues: What Manning Revealed

'What Has WIkiLeaks Taught Us?' What Has WIkiLeaks Taught Us? | EurasiaNet.org
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We live in a DISinformation age

Does anyone, left, right or center disagree?
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:06 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
What have we learned?

"The debate in the media, and in political, circles over Edward Snowden--Right or Wrong--often doubles back on references to Pfc. Manning, who was sentenced to 35 years in prison this morning. Too often (that is, most of the time), the value and import of the Manning/WikiLeaks disclosures are ignored or dismissed, just as Snowden's NSA scoops often derided as "nothing new."

So for those who either suffer from memory loss or ignorance on this particular score, here is a partial accounting of some of the important revelations in the Manning leak, drawn from my book--with Kevin Gosztola--on the Manning case, Truth and Consequences (now, thanks to the miracle of modern publishing, updated to include the verdict and sentencing and reactions)."

Pressing Issues: What Manning Revealed

'What Has WIkiLeaks Taught Us?' What Has WIkiLeaks Taught Us? | EurasiaNet.org
Does the author discuss the parts of the Collateral Murder video that WL edited out...showing the Reuters "journalist" carrying an RPG and the van dropping off insurgents to join in the firefight a few blocks away...or does he blindly swallow what Assange fed him?
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:34 AM
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I agree that Manning shouldn't be the only one being imprisoned.
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