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05-11-2008, 01:29 PM
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05-11-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dread | (YAWN) Yep. Islam is a religion of war. http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
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05-11-2008, 01:41 PM
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Sure is a religion of war...But I guess this is just a bore to you.. MOGADISHU, Somalia -- Firing rocket-propelled grenades and heavy submachine guns, Islamist fighters seized the police headquarters at the heart of the government's stronghold in Mogadishu on Thursday in a bold attack that witnesses said killed two soldiers and two policemen. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1210...googlenews_wsj Al-Shabab, now an autonomous rebel group which has added an explosive element to the combustible mix of Mogadishu’s militias, enforces strict sharia (Islamic law) and uses tactics imported from the global jihadi movement. As in Afghanistan, those who work or trade with the government risk being branded as spies or collaborators and beheaded as a warning to others. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3908867.ece
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Originally Posted by dread Sure is a religion of war...But I guess this is just a bore to you.. MOGADISHU, Somalia -- Firing rocket-propelled grenades and heavy submachine guns, Islamist fighters seized the police headquarters at the heart of the government's stronghold in Mogadishu on Thursday in a bold attack that witnesses said killed two soldiers and two policemen. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1210...googlenews_wsj Al-Shabab, now an autonomous rebel group which has added an explosive element to the combustible mix of Mogadishu’s militias, enforces strict sharia (Islamic law) and uses tactics imported from the global jihadi movement. As in Afghanistan, those who work or trade with the government risk being branded as spies or collaborators and beheaded as a warning to others. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3908867.ece | I’ve participated in this game time and time again. There are militant violent Muslims. There are militant violent Christians. You can pull stuff from each group’s book to make it say what you want it to say. You can find anti-Islam stuff. You can find pro-Islam stuff. Instead of being so divisive: “We good. They bad” I like to believe that, for the overwhelming majority in each group, people are good.
I am just not impressed with the hunting and pecking of “anti anything” web finds. It is little more than a self-serving scavenger hunt. Find things that support your already-established prejudices. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by mattskramer I’ve participated in this game time and time again. There are militant violent Muslims. There are militant violent Christians. You can pull stuff from each group’s book to make it say what you want it to say. You can find anti-Islam stuff. You can find pro-Islam stuff. Instead of being so divisive: “We good. They bad” I like to believe that, for the overwhelming majority in each group, people are good.
I am just not impressed with the hunting and pecking of “anti anything” web finds. It is little more than a self-serving scavenger hunt. Find things that support your already-established prejudices. Have fun. |
I am waiting for your evidence of violent christian militant groups....I have ONLY heard about the NLFT. And they were promply arrested. Other than that I cant see where you will be able to find any news about Christian militants trying to take over the world.
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Originally Posted by dread I am waiting for your evidence of violent christian militant groups....I have ONLY heard about the NLFT. And they were promply arrested. Other than that I cant see where you will be able to find any news about Christian militants trying to take over the world. | Wow. You have led a sheltered life haven’t you? Venture outside your safety zone and learn about things that may run contrary to your belief system. There have been Christian terrorists and terrorist groups throughout the ages and all over the world: from the Spanish inquisition of centuries ago to the “Evangelical Alliance” that in 2006 advocated violence as an option to counter legislation in Great Britain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Happy reading.
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Rep Power: 21 | | Elina Das is the only Christian student at her school, he said. “Always local boys used to tease her on her way to school,” he said, “and used to tell her filthy words against Christianity and western culture.”
Five villagers attacked her when she went from her thatched house to an outdoor latrine, said investigating officer Sanwar Hossen of Fulbaria police station.
“Five people lying in ambush in the pitch-dark near the toilet snatched her by gagging her mouth with her body scarf [and taking her] to a nearby tea stall, 400 meters from the house, where they gang-raped her,” Hossen said.
Besides the religious opposition of some residents, the officer said villagers had no personal or commercial conflicts with the Das family that could serve as a motive for the assault. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecutio...aspx?id=111710
Yep I guess in your mind this is loving as well.
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Originally Posted by mattskramer Wow. You have led a sheltered life haven’t you? Venture outside your safety zone and learn about things that may run contrary to your belief system. There have been Christian terrorists and terrorist groups throughout the ages and all over the world: from the Spanish inquisition of centuries ago to the “Evangelical Alliance” that in 2006 advocated violence as an option to counter legislation in Great Britain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
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WOW! One could TOTALLY see how these people are sooo much more evil than the shit I posted. God's Army
God's Army is a Christian revolutionary group in armed rebellion against the military government of Burma. God's Army consists of around 100-200 veteran fighters, and is led by two twin brothers, who are believed by their followers to be immune to bullets.[108]
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Originally Posted by dread Elina Das is the only Christian student at her school, he said. “Always local boys used to tease her on her way to school,” he said, “and used to tell her filthy words against Christianity and western culture.”
Five villagers attacked her when she went from her thatched house to an outdoor latrine, said investigating officer Sanwar Hossen of Fulbaria police station.
“Five people lying in ambush in the pitch-dark near the toilet snatched her by gagging her mouth with her body scarf [and taking her] to a nearby tea stall, 400 meters from the house, where they gang-raped her,” Hossen said.
Besides the religious opposition of some residents, the officer said villagers had no personal or commercial conflicts with the Das family that could serve as a motive for the assault. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecutio...aspx?id=111710
Yep I guess in your mind this is loving as well. | Nope. The 5 people should be punished. Those particular individuals who commit crimes against others, regardless of their motives, should face very severe punishment.
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Originally Posted by dread WOW! One could TOTALLY see how these people are sooo much more evil than the shit I posted. God's Army
God's Army is a Christian revolutionary group in armed rebellion against the military government of Burma. God's Army consists of around 100-200 veteran fighters, and is led by two twin brothers, who are believed by their followers to be immune to bullets.[108] | and that is just one example. By the way, I did not say that they were more evil.
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Originally Posted by mattskramer and that is just one example. By the way, I did not say that they were more evil. |
I agree that I only gave one example and it is true you didnt say they were more evil. But to equate what the KKK is doing to that of what Jihadist around the world are doing on a daily basis is disingenuious.
I mean what you are purporting is the eqivilant of saying Hitler who was a Christian who commited a ton of atrocities was worse than the Jihadists. When you and I both know it was OTHER Christians that put an end to his terror. You wont find the same relief of Jihadists network by your version of peaceful Islamics.
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Originally Posted by dread I agree that I only gave one example and it is true you didnt say they were more evil. But to equate what the KKK is doing to that of what Jihadist around the world are doing on a daily basis is disingenuious.
I mean what you are purporting is the eqivilant of saying Hitler who was a Christian who commited a ton of atrocities was worse than the Jihadists. When you and I both know it was OTHER Christians that put an end to his terror. You wont find the same relief of Jihadists network by your version of peaceful Islamics. | I agree that such would not be a good comparison. Yet, if your take the Army of God, and Aryan Nations, Christian Patriots, Lambs of Christ, the KKK, and other groups all over the world as a whole I think that it would be a valid comparison with Islamic militants. I’m not going to get into a bean counting game. I think that it is enough that I provided some degree of balance.
By the way, there are Muslims and Muslim groups that condemn such violence
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Rep Power: 48 | | | The main difference I notice between the Christian terrorists and the Muslim terrorists is that the mainstream Christians denounce the terrorists and help in hunting them down. While the mainstream Muslims do not denounce the supposed fringe groups and, in fact, aid and assist them in their terroristic goals.
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Originally Posted by mattskramer Wow. You have led a sheltered life haven’t you? Venture outside your safety zone and learn about things that may run contrary to your belief system. There have been Christian terrorists and terrorist groups throughout the ages and all over the world: from the Spanish inquisition of centuries ago to the “Evangelical Alliance” that in 2006 advocated violence as an option to counter legislation in Great Britain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Happy reading. | BTW, you might want to use a source that's been verified. Having this at the top of your source:
"This article or section may contain an unpublished synthesis of published material that conveys ideas not attributable to the original sources.
Please help Wikipedia by adding sources whose main topic is "Christian terrorism". See the talk page for details.(February 2007)
This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.
Please improve this article if you can. (April 2008)"
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the material being presented does it?
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