CDZ Zuckerberg Calls for a Universal Basic Income

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    I bet you were watching the latest post feed and did not notice this is a CDZ thread.

    Without the name calling though, you may have a point. Zuckie realizes how much money he has and has no idea why other people can't have more.
     
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    the rich don't need it. why "force" it on anyone who doesn't need it?
     
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    what

    force --LOL

    they get cut off

    btw 35 grand is hardly rich
     
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    I see no reason why a person cannot turn down their UBI.

    Why not?
     
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    i suppose they could
     
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    A federal program? We already have unemployment compensation for anyone unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States. We only need, equal protection of the law.
     
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    not sure what you are trying to say
     
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    He's saying he wants UE benefits even if he quits or never works.
     
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    Has anyone seen a report or analysis on who gets what? As in numbers? Will every social safety net program be axed? Show me the money, where does it come from. How many of our 320 or so million Americans will get it? Illegals too? If we exclude the top 2%, great but that leaves about 313 million people to cover and that is a lot of money.

    To me this feels like another pie in the sky progressive liberal idea with no rational basis for how to pay for it. Just like Universal HealthCare, I cannot support a program that puts a large additional debt on future generations. We ought to be paying for what we do and we're not doing it.

    Last thing about UBI, it pretty much removes the incentive to work for too many people. Moving towards a system where the gov't takes care of you instead of you being responsible for yourself is not a good idea IMHO, even if it was fiscally possible. Which it isn't as far as I can tell.
     
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