Zionism Is The Problem

[P F Tinmore]

it's not their country.

what should mexico do in texas and california?

life sucks. you wage war against people, you'd better make sure you win.

Mexico lost and surrendered.

The Palestinians have not. Israel has won no land . It occupies Palestine. Does Israel expect flowers and candy?

 

[jillian]

it's not their country.

what should mexico do in texas and california?

life sucks. you wage war against people, you'd better make sure you win.

Mexico lost and surrendered.

The Palestinians have not. Israel has won no land . It occupies Palestine. Does Israel expect flowers and candy?

you're a liar. the palis attacked and lost.

this is why i don't bother with you. you know nothing and you lie compulsively. traits that are mandatory in a terrorist supporter but useless in someone who thinks he should be taken seriously in "debate"

you're useless as boobs on a bull.

 

[P F Tinmore]

it's not their country.

what should mexico do in texas and california?

life sucks. you wage war against people, you'd better make sure you win.

Mexico lost and surrendered.

The Palestinians have not. Israel has won no land . It occupies Palestine. Does Israel expect flowers and candy?

you're a liar. the palis attacked and lost.

this is why i don't bother with you. you know nothing and you lie compulsively. traits that are mandatory in a terrorist supporter but useless in someone who thinks he should be taken seriously in "debate"

you're useless as boobs on a bull.

Not true. Look at the real history. The Zionist military attacked Palestinian civilians driving them off their land. The Palestinians did not go to Europe to attack the Zionists. The Zionists went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country.

The 1948 war that Israel started was called by UN resolution. The 1949 armistice agreements gave Israel no land.

Israel constantly says that the Palestinians attacked and lost. That is just one of their lies.

Look it up.

 

[Jroc]

YouTube - ‪Israeli brainwashed children‬‏
YouTube - ‪The Israeli Children Education‬‏

Wow that shit is soo..Lame you have no credibility idiot ,They fight to survive, if not they would be overrun and slaughtered, If the roles were reversed there would be no Jews in Israel, your lost in your own stupidity. Jews will trade hundreds of terrorist for the body of one of their own.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Mexico lost and surrendered.

The Palestinians have not. Israel has won no land . It occupies Palestine. Does Israel expect flowers and candy?

you're a liar. the palis attacked and lost.

this is why i don't bother with you. you know nothing and you lie compulsively. traits that are mandatory in a terrorist supporter but useless in someone who thinks he should be taken seriously in "debate"

you're useless as boobs on a bull.

Not true. Look at the real history. The Zionist military attacked Palestinian civilians driving them off their land. The Palestinians did not go to Europe to attack the Zionists. The Zionists went to Palestine with the stated goal of taking over their country.

The 1948 war that Israel started was called by UN resolution. The 1949 armistice agreements gave Israel no land.

Israel constantly says that the Palestinians attacked and lost. That is just one of their lies.

Look it up.

Sources:
The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949

Excerpts:

Preamble

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, to negotiate an Armistice; having decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; (2) and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

The establishment of an armistice between the armed forces of the two Parties is accepted as an indispensable step toward the liquidation of armed conflict and the restoration of peace in Palestine.

The line described in Article VI of this Agreement shall be designated as the Armistice Demarcation Line and is delineated in pursuance of the purpose and intent of the resolutions of the Security Council of 4 and 16 November 1948.

The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary, and is delineated without prejudice to rights, claims and positions of either Party to the Armistice as regards ultimate settlement of the Palestine question.

The armistice was called by UN resolution. Nobody lost that war.

The armistice lines, also known as the green line or 1967 borders, were specifically not to be borders.

In the GAZA-RAFAH area the Armistice Demarcation Line shall be as delineated in paragraph 2.B (i) of the Memorandum of 13 November 1948 on the implementation of the Security Council resolution of 4 November 1948

This withdrawal shall begin on the day after that which follows the signing of this Agreement, at 0500 hours GMT, and shall be beyond the Egypt-Palestine frontier.

The line described in Article V of this Agreement shall be designated as the Armistice Demarcation Line and is delineated in pursuance of the purpose and intent of the resolutions of the Security Council of 16 November 1948.

The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between Lebanon and Palestine.

In the sector from a point on the Dead Sea (MR 1925-0958) to the southernmost tip of Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall be determined...

Where the existing truce lines run along the international boundary between Syria and Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the boundary line

Except for the West Bank and Gaza the armistice lines follow the international borders of Lebanon and Palestine, Syria and Palestine, Jordan and Palestine, and Egypt and Palestine. These borders were not changed by the armistice lines. To today Palestine's borders remain unchanged from when they were defined in 1922.

There is no border between the West Bank and Israel. There is no border between Gaza and Israel. The West Bank, Gaza, and Israel all are inside Palestine's international borders.

Were there any borders defining any land won by Israel? None were mentioned.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the Jews before Israel was created because Arabs hate Jews.

Not true.

Israel says that UN resolution 181 created a Jewish state and an Arab state. Israel accepted theirs and the Arabs rejected theirs.

Not true.

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the newly formed Israel and lost. Israel won land.

Not true.

This conflict is based on false premise.

 

[docmauser1]

And post pictures of dead and mangled children from attacks by the IDF

Arab press regularly publishes recipes of arab children, allegedly used for jewish passover bread preparation, for example. That's what we may rightfully call "palestinian porn". Arabs and those, pitying them, get a kick out of it, it looks good on regular palistaniacal propaganda criers, something to adorn school-walls as visual aids to promote martyrdom education. The palistanian cult of martyrdom and death demands it. It's also good for settling so-called "family honor" scores by way of suicide by the IDF, the most famous one being the case of Iman al Hams, of course. We may never know exactly why her hamas handlers sent her in the direction opposite to her school all the way up to the border with Egypt to troll the military. Was she sexually abused in a brotherly gangbang and the "family honor" purification sham was due? Or just simply smiled at a neighbor, whom her parents viewed as a dirty palistanian? We just may never know. We at least may safely assume that her parents had been willing to go for it. Send a girl to school in a direction opposite to her school, leading to a military installation, get her killed, cry she was going to school. Hamasistas were happy with intelligence gathered, schools were happy with a new martyr pic to slap on a wall and cheer, girl's parents were happy, they were no more in dishonor, the media was happy with another child sacrifice to dine on, blame it on jews. The usual stuff.

 

[bluemoon22]

Of course Zionism - a movement with the goal of creating a PURELY Jewish State in Arab Palestine through Colonization and Displacement of the indigenous inhabitants - is the problem. As long as Israeli's continue to strive for reaching the goals of zionism, there will be wars.

 

[Jroc]

And post pictures of dead and mangled children from attacks by the IDF

Arab press regularly publishes recipes of arab children, allegedly used for jewish passover bread preparation, for example. That's what we may rightfully call "palestinian porn". Arabs and those, pitying them, get a kick out of it, it looks good on regular palistaniacal propaganda criers, something to adorn school-walls as visual aids to promote martyrdom education. The palistanian cult of martyrdom and death demands it. It's also good for settling so-called "family honor" scores by way of suicide by the IDF, the most famous one being the case of Iman al Hams, of course. We may never know exactly why her hamas handlers sent her in the direction opposite to her school all the way up to the border with Egypt to troll the military. Was she sexually abused in a brotherly gangbang and the "family honor" purification sham was due? Or just simply smiled at a neighbor, whom her parents viewed as a dirty palistanian? We just may never know. We at least may safely assume that her parents had been willing to go for it. Send a girl to school in a direction opposite to her school, leading to a military installation, get her killed, cry she was going to school. Hamasistas were happy with intelligence gathered, schools were happy with a new martyr pic to slap on a wall and cheer, girl's parents were happy, they were no more in dishonor, the media was happy with another child sacrifice to dine on, blame it on jews. The usual stuff.

Makes sense to me, Sick fucken animals.

Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother
'Thousands of women have been killed in the name of honor'

A Palestinian girl who was raped and impregnated by her two brothers was later murdered by her own mother – even though her daughter was the crime's innocent victim – in another of the disturbingly common, if vastly underreported, instances of "honor killings."

The mother will be sentenced in two weeks, but a harsh penalty is not expected.

According to a Knight Ridder report, court records show that Rofayda Qaoud was raped by her brothers, Fahdi, 22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room house in the town of Abu Qash in the West Bank. When her mother found she had become pregnant, she insisted her daughter commit suicide, and even bought the unwed teen a razor so she could slash her own wrists. When the daughter refused, Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud took matters into her own hands and murdered Rofayda to restore her family's "honor."

Entering her sleeping daughter's bedroom last Jan. 27 with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, reports Knight Ridder, the mother told her daughter: "Tonight you die, Rofayda." Wrapping the bag around the teen's head, Qaoud cut her daughter's wrists, while ignoring her cries of "No, mother, no!" Qaoud then struck her daughter in the head with the stick to finish off the job, said the report.

Every year, dozens and probably hundreds of brutal "honor killings" of Palestinian women and girls – most of whom are virtually blameless – go unreported, according to an anthropologist's recent study.



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[P F Tinmore]

And post pictures of dead and mangled children from attacks by the IDF

Arab press regularly publishes recipes of arab children, allegedly used for jewish passover bread preparation, for example. That's what we may rightfully call "palestinian porn". Arabs and those, pitying them, get a kick out of it, it looks good on regular palistaniacal propaganda criers, something to adorn school-walls as visual aids to promote martyrdom education. The palistanian cult of martyrdom and death demands it. It's also good for settling so-called "family honor" scores by way of suicide by the IDF, the most famous one being the case of Iman al Hams, of course. We may never know exactly why her hamas handlers sent her in the direction opposite to her school all the way up to the border with Egypt to troll the military. Was she sexually abused in a brotherly gangbang and the "family honor" purification sham was due? Or just simply smiled at a neighbor, whom her parents viewed as a dirty palistanian? We just may never know. We at least may safely assume that her parents had been willing to go for it. Send a girl to school in a direction opposite to her school, leading to a military installation, get her killed, cry she was going to school. Hamasistas were happy with intelligence gathered, schools were happy with a new martyr pic to slap on a wall and cheer, girl's parents were happy, they were no more in dishonor, the media was happy with another child sacrifice to dine on, blame it on jews. The usual stuff.

Makes sense to me, Sick fucken animals.

Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother
'Thousands of women have been killed in the name of honor'

A Palestinian girl who was raped and impregnated by her two brothers was later murdered by her own mother – even though her daughter was the crime's innocent victim – in another of the disturbingly common, if vastly underreported, instances of "honor killings."

The mother will be sentenced in two weeks, but a harsh penalty is not expected.

According to a Knight Ridder report, court records show that Rofayda Qaoud was raped by her brothers, Fahdi, 22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room house in the town of Abu Qash in the West Bank. When her mother found she had become pregnant, she insisted her daughter commit suicide, and even bought the unwed teen a razor so she could slash her own wrists. When the daughter refused, Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud took matters into her own hands and murdered Rofayda to restore her family's "honor."

Entering her sleeping daughter's bedroom last Jan. 27 with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, reports Knight Ridder, the mother told her daughter: "Tonight you die, Rofayda." Wrapping the bag around the teen's head, Qaoud cut her daughter's wrists, while ignoring her cries of "No, mother, no!" Qaoud then struck her daughter in the head with the stick to finish off the job, said the report.

Every year, dozens and probably hundreds of brutal "honor killings" of Palestinian women and girls – most of whom are virtually blameless – go unreported, according to an anthropologist's recent study.



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Posted: November 18, 2003
1:00 am Eastern

Got anything newer?

 

[Jroc]

Arab press regularly publishes recipes of arab children, allegedly used for jewish passover bread preparation, for example. That's what we may rightfully call "palestinian porn". Arabs and those, pitying them, get a kick out of it, it looks good on regular palistaniacal propaganda criers, something to adorn school-walls as visual aids to promote martyrdom education. The palistanian cult of martyrdom and death demands it. It's also good for settling so-called "family honor" scores by way of suicide by the IDF, the most famous one being the case of Iman al Hams, of course. We may never know exactly why her hamas handlers sent her in the direction opposite to her school all the way up to the border with Egypt to troll the military. Was she sexually abused in a brotherly gangbang and the "family honor" purification sham was due? Or just simply smiled at a neighbor, whom her parents viewed as a dirty palistanian? We just may never know. We at least may safely assume that her parents had been willing to go for it. Send a girl to school in a direction opposite to her school, leading to a military installation, get her killed, cry she was going to school. Hamasistas were happy with intelligence gathered, schools were happy with a new martyr pic to slap on a wall and cheer, girl's parents were happy, they were no more in dishonor, the media was happy with another child sacrifice to dine on, blame it on jews. The usual stuff.

Makes sense to me, Sick fucken animals.

Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother
'Thousands of women have been killed in the name of honor'

A Palestinian girl who was raped and impregnated by her two brothers was later murdered by her own mother – even though her daughter was the crime's innocent victim – in another of the disturbingly common, if vastly underreported, instances of "honor killings."

The mother will be sentenced in two weeks, but a harsh penalty is not expected.

According to a Knight Ridder report, court records show that Rofayda Qaoud was raped by her brothers, Fahdi, 22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room house in the town of Abu Qash in the West Bank. When her mother found she had become pregnant, she insisted her daughter commit suicide, and even bought the unwed teen a razor so she could slash her own wrists. When the daughter refused, Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud took matters into her own hands and murdered Rofayda to restore her family's "honor."

Entering her sleeping daughter's bedroom last Jan. 27 with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, reports Knight Ridder, the mother told her daughter: "Tonight you die, Rofayda." Wrapping the bag around the teen's head, Qaoud cut her daughter's wrists, while ignoring her cries of "No, mother, no!" Qaoud then struck her daughter in the head with the stick to finish off the job, said the report.

Every year, dozens and probably hundreds of brutal "honor killings" of Palestinian women and girls – most of whom are virtually blameless – go unreported, according to an anthropologist's recent study.



Read more: Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother

Posted: November 18, 2003
1:00 am Eastern

Got anything newer?

Ok you got me... They can now get more than 6 months , progress I guess


Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws
05/19/11 03:40 PM ET

SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.

The killing of Aya Baradiya – by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor – sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.

And in another sign of changing attitudes, the young college student is being mourned as a "martyr" and her grieving parents are being embraced, not shunned, by neighbors.

So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.

Women's activists hailed Abbas' decision as a milestone in what they say is still a long road toward protecting women from such abuse.

"Such a tragic event managed to send a message that change is needed," said rights campaigner Hanan Ashrawi. "We have traction and we are going to move."

Suha Arafat, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's widow, emerged from self-imposed seclusion to praise Abbas. Speaking in an interview with The Associated Press, she said she tried to persuade her husband many times to take such a step, but was told the Palestinian people faced other pressing problems that needed to be dealt with first.

One of 13 siblings, Baradiya lived in the West Bank town of Surif near the city of Hebron, where she majored in English literature at Hebron University. She wore the traditional Muslim headscarf and classmates described her as chaste and noble-minded.

"She was lovely. She was intelligent. She had a big heart," said the woman's mother, Fatma, calling her daughter "the dynamo of the household."

AdvertisementShe disappeared on April 20, 2010, and was killed that same day, though her body was not discovered until 13 months later, on May 6, after her 37-year-old uncle, Iqab Baradiya, confessed to the crime.

On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said.

Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws

 

[Truthseeker420]

Not so. It is you who discount the deaths of the Israelis killed. You know, the ones TARGETED BY ARAB MUSLIMS? Just like the ones targeted in Russia?

Now that Israel has created a wall to keep the MURDERING HORDE OF MUSLIMS out you have no Israeli children to target. The children of those "Lying Sacks of Shit".

You are clear and so are the Muslims as they put their young in the way for the media events.

You know, many of the ones you post as numbers of children killed by return fire.

Keep the children away from the launch and have less dead.

Israeli children to Palestinian children.
2010 0-15
2009 1-295

Obviously, Mr. Tinmore, you didn't understand Ropey's point. Palestinian parents purposely put their own children in harm's way in order to get them killed, and thus earn public relations points. How sick![/QUOTE

Ropey couldn't be that stupid.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Makes sense to me, Sick fucken animals.

Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother
'Thousands of women have been killed in the name of honor'

A Palestinian girl who was raped and impregnated by her two brothers was later murdered by her own mother – even though her daughter was the crime's innocent victim – in another of the disturbingly common, if vastly underreported, instances of "honor killings."

The mother will be sentenced in two weeks, but a harsh penalty is not expected.

According to a Knight Ridder report, court records show that Rofayda Qaoud was raped by her brothers, Fahdi, 22, and Ali, 20, in a bedroom they shared in the family's three-room house in the town of Abu Qash in the West Bank. When her mother found she had become pregnant, she insisted her daughter commit suicide, and even bought the unwed teen a razor so she could slash her own wrists. When the daughter refused, Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud took matters into her own hands and murdered Rofayda to restore her family's "honor."

Entering her sleeping daughter's bedroom last Jan. 27 with a plastic bag, razor and wooden stick, reports Knight Ridder, the mother told her daughter: "Tonight you die, Rofayda." Wrapping the bag around the teen's head, Qaoud cut her daughter's wrists, while ignoring her cries of "No, mother, no!" Qaoud then struck her daughter in the head with the stick to finish off the job, said the report.

Every year, dozens and probably hundreds of brutal "honor killings" of Palestinian women and girls – most of whom are virtually blameless – go unreported, according to an anthropologist's recent study.



Read more: Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother Daughter raped by brothers, murdered by mother

Posted: November 18, 2003
1:00 am Eastern

Got anything newer?

Ok you got me... They can now get more than 6 months , progress I guess


Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws
05/19/11 03:40 PM ET

SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.

The killing of Aya Baradiya – by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor – sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.

And in another sign of changing attitudes, the young college student is being mourned as a "martyr" and her grieving parents are being embraced, not shunned, by neighbors.

So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.

Women's activists hailed Abbas' decision as a milestone in what they say is still a long road toward protecting women from such abuse.

"Such a tragic event managed to send a message that change is needed," said rights campaigner Hanan Ashrawi. "We have traction and we are going to move."

Suha Arafat, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's widow, emerged from self-imposed seclusion to praise Abbas. Speaking in an interview with The Associated Press, she said she tried to persuade her husband many times to take such a step, but was told the Palestinian people faced other pressing problems that needed to be dealt with first.

One of 13 siblings, Baradiya lived in the West Bank town of Surif near the city of Hebron, where she majored in English literature at Hebron University. She wore the traditional Muslim headscarf and classmates described her as chaste and noble-minded.

"She was lovely. She was intelligent. She had a big heart," said the woman's mother, Fatma, calling her daughter "the dynamo of the household."

AdvertisementShe disappeared on April 20, 2010, and was killed that same day, though her body was not discovered until 13 months later, on May 6, after her 37-year-old uncle, Iqab Baradiya, confessed to the crime.

On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said.

Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws

Violence against women is common throughout the world.

It is not an "Islamic" thing.

 

[docmauser1]

Violence against women is common throughout the world. It is not an "Islamic" thing.

A sharia machismo thing?

 

[docmauser1]

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the Jews before Israel was created because Arabs hate Jews. Not true.

Of course it's true! Arabs hate jews and love jewish property. Simple.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the Jews before Israel was created because Arabs hate Jews. Not true.

Of course it's true! Arabs hate jews and love jewish property. Simple.

There are about 3000 Jews living in Palestine. There have been Jews visiting Gaza constantly for years. What happened to all the attacks that should have happened?

 

[daveman]

Zionism Is The Problem

For irrational Jew-haters, sure.

For normal people...not really.

 

[daveman]

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the Jews before Israel was created because Arabs hate Jews.

Not true.

Israel says that UN resolution 181 created a Jewish state and an Arab state. Israel accepted theirs and the Arabs rejected theirs.

Not true.

Israel says that the Arabs attacked the newly formed Israel and lost. Israel won land.

Not true.

This conflict is based on false premise.

The Muslim world is pissed off at Israel because the Jews had the temerity to build their holy religious sites under the Muslim ones.