Zimbabwe. What can do blacks without whites?

[harmonica]

blacks murder at a much, much higher rate than whites--well over 4 times the rate
the Hutus slaughtered more in a much smaller amount of time than the Holocaust in WW2....more of the Hutu population participated in the direct killings per capita

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

 

[harmonica]

blacks murder at a much, much higher rate than whites--well over 4 times the rate
the Hutus slaughtered more in a much smaller amount of time than the Holocaust in WW2....more of the Hutu population participated in the direct killings per capita

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

the culture of ''kids'' having kids and not knowing how to raise them
and/or no father to give them discipline--which leads to the kids doing poorly in school or not even graduating--which leads to poor jobs/stress/anger/etc---then they have kids and the cycle goes on and on

 

[harmonica]

blacks murder at a much, much higher rate than whites--well over 4 times the rate
the Hutus slaughtered more in a much smaller amount of time than the Holocaust in WW2....more of the Hutu population participated in the direct killings per capita

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

the culture where blacks commit more rape/ murder/ hate crimes /etc per capita at huge rates compared to whites

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

the culture of ''kids'' having kids and not knowing how to raise them
and/or no father to give them discipline--which leads to the kids doing poorly in school or not even graduating--which leads to poor jobs/stress/anger/etc---then they have kids and the cycle goes on and on

The cycle does go on. And the attitude in America is "we don't care, we'll just let them rot".

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you're cherry picking again?

There have been times when whites have also committed mass slaughter in a small space of time.

These 15 Horrifying Massacres From Human History Will Destroy Your Faith In Mankind

The massacre in Rwanda was brutal, but no more brutal than other brutal massacres.

Your argument is as weak as hot water posing as tea. You're pulling facts out of your ass and then trying to show that this one fact represents the whole of a continent while ignoring other facts from other places.

This isn't debate.

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

the culture where blacks commit more rape/ murder/ hate crimes /etc per capita at huge rates compared to whites

Is that all you can say? Seriously?

 

[harmonica]

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....
look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.][/QUOTE]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

 

[harmonica]

in the US, right now--blacks commit murder at a much higher rate--are you afraid of the truth?? over FOUR times the rate of whites
cherry picking?? hahahhahahahahhaah
obviously the whites are more intelligent and are ''better'' at slaughtering--but that doesn't mean they are more violent, etc
the blacks are still using medieval weapons to slaughter, as they did in Rwanda

as a group, per capita, the blacks murder more.....
look at these numbers!!!!!! OMG
Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

where's JQPublic???--he says you are wrong...the blacks are doing fine

 

[harmonica]

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

in post #44 you denied the statistics I stated
so, now, you agree with my stats??

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, they do. Am I afraid of the truth? No. I'm afraid of people making arguments by using cherry picked facts out of context.

You say "cherry picking?? hahahahahahahahahaah" and yet, you didn't bring this fact up.

Now, why do black people commit more crimes, and more murders in the US? Is it because they're black? Or is it because of the history of the US black people have been sent to the bottom of the pile and left to rot by society?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/480250/bulletin.pdf

If you look at figure 1.01 Ethnicity proportions throughout the CJS, 2014 you'll see that in the UK black people also commit a lot more crimes than white people. But they make up much more of the prison population than the number of arrests and the like.

Figure 3.01 shows that they're 50% more likely to be victims of crime too.

Poverty rates among ethnic groups in Great Britain

Black Africans have a 45% poverty rate compared to 30% for black Caribbeans and 20% for white people. So, poverty is higher, crime is higher.

Figure 4.02 shows population distribution and black people are far more likely to live in London. Nearly 60% of black people live in London. Nearly 80% of stop and searches on blacks are in London. 60% of these stop and searches are to do with drugs.

Figure 4.09 shows that black's highest crime is robbery, an economic crime along with drug dealing. Fraud is second, drugs are third. This is where a lot of people in poverty commit crimes, crime in order to enrich themselves.

The more you dig, the more you find out it's not just about someone being black for the reason why they commit crimes.

But you don't want to dig.

The countries with the most crime in the world, don't have large black populations. Like Honduras.

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

where's JQPublic???--he says you are wrong...the blacks are doing fine

I couldn't give a fuck about JQPublic. This is me and you debating.

 

[frigidweirdo]

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

in post #44 you denied the statistics I stated
so, now, you agree with my stats??

No, I didn't deny your statistics. I asked for your statistics. But you failed to produce them. So how can I agree or disagree?

 

[harmonica]

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

those are possibly part of the causation of their problems

and the blacks in Africa were screwed over by the Brits, Frogs, Belgians, etc
seems like the blacks did not originally have the culture and/or intelligence to stop the whites from ''screwing'' them over
.....the whites were superior in technology/information/communication/etc----
the book Guns, Germs, and Steel, the author implies the difference in societies is geography, food production, domesticated animals
--my Kenyan friend said the Africans didn't have a ''need'' for ships/technology/written language--this before the whites came.....
..but the whites didn't have a ''need'' to explore the world.....
...the people that ''want'' to better themselves usually do
..the people that like the status quo--make out just enough to get by, those that don't have that entrepreneurial spirit--''I want something better and bigger'', are ''lazy''---usually don't do well financially/etc
...the tribes in Africa were just getting by---they weren't getting advanced--long before the whites came

 

[harmonica]

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

in post #44 you denied the statistics I stated
so, now, you agree with my stats??

No, I didn't deny your statistics. I asked for your statistics. But you failed to produce them. So how can I agree or disagree?

here's another:
blacks commit more hate crimes per capita at over TWICE the rate of whites
Offenders

 

[harmonica]

ok -- blacks do commit more crime per capita
poverty has something to do with it....but lot's of whites are poor that don't commit crime
my father lived during the DEPRESSION, and didn't commit crime
it's poverty + the culture
the poverty is a product of the culture + history

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

where's JQPublic???--he says you are wrong...the blacks are doing fine

I couldn't give a fuck about JQPublic. This is me and you debating.

he's a big anti-white guy/girl/something

 

[harmonica]

...the blacks were FAR, far behind the whites---long BEFORE the whites came--in technology/written language/ etc
so the whites didn't keep their intelligence down--- then---so it's hard to argue that slavery, colonialism, etc kept the blacks from achieving greater things
...sure, slavery, etc is a part--small part of it.....but the blacks were always behind
....

 

[frigidweirdo]

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

jesus christ--you have never researched this subject, have you--except for maybe Rev Wright's preaching!!!

[QUOTEWhat about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.]

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness

Race and crime in the United States - Wikipedia

Table 43

black population about 13% ...white population about 67%
you can do math--yes?? blacks are committing crime/murder at MUCH higher rates than whites

the numbers are right THERE!!.....you can't deny them
you do know what per capita means?? they are very hurtful words to blacks

I know what the statistics are.

But we also spoke about there being other things, "cultural" things, such as black people having gone through slavery and segregation.

those are possibly part of the causation of their problems

and the blacks in Africa were screwed over by the Brits, Frogs, Belgians, etc
seems like the blacks did not originally have the culture and/or intelligence to stop the whites from ''screwing'' them over
.....the whites were superior in technology/information/communication/etc----
the book Guns, Germs, and Steel, the author implies the difference in societies is geography, food production, domesticated animals
--my Kenyan friend said the Africans didn't have a ''need'' for ships/technology/written language--this before the whites came.....
..but the whites didn't have a ''need'' to explore the world.....
...the people that ''want'' to better themselves usually do
..the people that like the status quo--make out just enough to get by, those that don't have that entrepreneurial spirit--''I want something better and bigger'', are ''lazy''---usually don't do well financially/etc
...the tribes in Africa were just getting by---they weren't getting advanced--long before the whites came

The Africans had the skills necessary to survive in the harsh environment of Africa. The whites went in and took what they wanted. Some people made it rich. Diamonds were worth a lot in Europe because they'd had the food supplies to have people not working in food.

In the US 1.5% of people work in Agriculture which is enough to feed the country and more.

In Zambia 85% of people work in Agriculture which is barely enough to feed the country.

That's not difference in INTELLIGENCE, it's a difference in GEOGRAPHY. It's not so hard to understand, is it?

No, black people didn't have a need for writing before white people came along, because they had to SURVIVE first. The whites came in an were able to use the support network from home, ship off goods that were worth a lot of money in the west but not worth much in Africa and make themselves rich to import foreign food.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Blacks in certain countries do.

A lot of whites in poverty don't commit crimes, and a lot of blacks in poverty don't commit crimes. Cherry picking doesn't make things real.

Is it the culture? What do you mean by "culture" here?

You say it's "a product of the culture", well, potentially. The culture here is that black people went through slavery, segregation and discrimination on a large scale. This clearly has something to do with it.

Potentially there's something in the make up of the people too. Africa is a harsh place and to survive, which is what Africans have been doing for a long time, you need to be tough. China had an abundance of food, they didn't need to be tough. Europeans had more food. The animals in Africa are tougher, the people are tougher, it's a part of the mentality.

There is also a sense of entitlement. I don't know where this came from, but it does exist. Then again it also exists within other communities. African politics is corrupt, different tribes get in power and then hand out the benefits and mess over the other tribes. But that sounds just like US politics too, only without the tribes.

but:
blacks in poverty commit crimes/murder at a MUCH higher rate than whites
they commit murder at over FOUR times the rate of whites---a HUGE difference--

Do they?

Where are your figures for this?

7% of white people are in poverty, 25% of black people are in poverty, 7*4=28

where's JQPublic???--he says you are wrong...the blacks are doing fine

I couldn't give a fuck about JQPublic. This is me and you debating.

he's a big anti-white guy/girl/something

So?

 

[frigidweirdo]

...the blacks were FAR, far behind the whites---long BEFORE the whites came--in technology/written language/ etc
so the whites didn't keep their intelligence down--- then---so it's hard to argue that slavery, colonialism, etc kept the blacks from achieving greater things
...sure, slavery, etc is a part--small part of it.....but the blacks were always behind
....

Yes, they were. As I've said, it's mostly down to food.

Intelligence is what? Is a spider unintelligent? Well, if it can put up a web near an electric light and get a lot of insects to eat, that's not stupid. Intelligence depends on the context of the place you're in.

The problem was that the whites came in more developed, they had people who didn't need to grow crops for a living, they could do something else.

Ever played Civilization games? You basically get a new unit of something that's superior to your enemy's and you can try and destroy them before they manage to get this weapon. Same thing here.

The number of people working in agriculture in the UK in 1800 was far different from the number working in agriculture in Africa in 1800. There's the difference. All great empires were places where there were enough people who didn't need to produce food to be able to develop the empire.

So blacks were always behind. Then they were shipped to Africa and treated as Untermenschen. The whites, especially in the South, were not willing to allow blacks to advance. And so many of them stayed down. Now the very same whites are complaining that black people didn't develop. Er... what?

 

[TheParser]

BULLETIN


I have just read that the new government of Zimbabwe has decided to return some land to a Caucasian farmer and may be planning to invite other Caucasian farmers whose land was confiscated years ago to return to the country.

It is always nice to report constructive and positive news.

Who knows? Maybe the new government will even treat gay people more kindly. According to some media reports, their lives are currently very difficult.