Your View On Todays Obama's "If We Hadn't Bailed Out GM & Chrysler" VS 9.1% Jobs ?

Here's the Can-Do American Optimism we get from the Obama Progressive Jihad

"...there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession." -- Joe "Slight Indian Accent" Biden
 
Can you prove him wrong?

Can you show that letting GM and Chrysler go under would have made America a better place?

Can you show that without the 300 billion in tax cuts and the 450 billion in spending in the stimulus that overall, America would be in better shape right now?

Why did GWB let Enron go under?
Lehman?
why was the UAW so special
 
Can you prove him wrong?

Can you show that letting GM and Chrysler go under would have made America a better place?

Can you show that without the 300 billion in tax cuts and the 450 billion in spending in the stimulus that overall, America would be in better shape right now?


Here's proof:

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Obama has overseen the Worst Recovery Ever. His policies are Keynesianism put to the Ultimate Test. And the result is an Epic Fail.
 
what it boils down to is that Obama has no explanation for the 9.1% rate! Ohio is still stagnant! No plan to reduce the price of gas back to a fair $2.00 - $2.50 a gallon. Ever since O'Hiltler took office we have been GOING BACKWARDS! Oh by the way,,Obama never mentioned to the small crowd in Toledo that the interest on the debt is 3 Billion a day of which our kids are paying and will pay for.

Let's see, on one side of a righty's mouth they claim the government doesn't create jobs (when some asks what the GOP House has done to create jobs) and then the other side of a righty's mouth slams Obama because of the crappy job environment.
Well boys and girls,,,what is it?

The fact of the matter is that Corporate America is sitting on trillions of dollars of capital and has enjoyed record profits. BUT they aren't investing in America, the are investing in their foreign operations that are paying their employees Third World wages.
Now some of you and even Corporate America have said the reason that Corporate America isn't investing in America is because of the uncertainty of the economy or blame Obama for his policies. The economy is uncertain because no one is hiring! The economy is slowing down because the consumer class has no to little expendable income because of flat wages or no jobs. And who's not hiring the US worker and who controls their wages?
Corporate America's excuse may be they want lower taxes. The US has one of the highest tax rates on businesses in the world BUT after all the loopholes the US gives businesses, their tax rate is one of the lowest in the developed world. And that's evident to the fact that most US corporations don't pay any taxes!

Now back to the question, who exactly create jobs? Government or businesses?

Business creates jobs and it is Governments responsibility to create a favorable tax and regulatory climate to encourage that end.

Corporate America is not the cause.

According to the 1997 report of the U.S. Census Bureau, the nation’s 17 million small, non-farm businesses constituted 99.7 per cent of all employers, employed 52 percent of private workforce and accounted for 51 percent of the nation’s sales. Small business-dominated industries provided 11.1 million new jobs between 1994 and 1998, virtually all of the new jobs created during that time period. Small businesses are most likely to generate jobs for young workers, older workers and women, provide 67 percent of first jobs and produce 55 percent of innovations.
 
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I can just picture Elisabeth Hassleblonde asking Joy Bearwipe how we got to 9.1% unemployment and all the other crappy economic news....I will bet $55.42 that Bearwipe will give her the most common excuse,,,,JOY BEARWIPE: Well,,,WE'RE STILL IN THE BUSH RECESSION !!! you have to give Obama another 4 years !!!! am I right my fellow conservatives?
 
It's real freaking American to sell the stockholders of the two companies out for 7 cents on the dollar? It's real American to sell the bondholders out for 4 cents on the dollar? It's real American to close down privately owned dealerships? If that's your idea of America shove it up your ass I'll drive a Toyota.
It's not real America, but it's real liberal.

yep, when the barack pays pack all those people then he can say GM and Chrysler were a success until then,, it all hype. and union payoff.
And that's all Porulus was about...paying back Obama's supporters (UNIONS), and nothing more. And Obama is lying about it all.

Are we in for 'Summer Of Recovery" part deux?
 
That's false. The White House never made any promise of x number of jobs or any promise of any specific unemployment rate.

Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%.

Read more: Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME


How would that rate with the Bushies claim that Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers? Or how about a sitting president saying "the economy is strong" after one quarter of showing to be slowing down and in the middle of a second consecutive quarter that was showing the economy was slowing down? (Two consecutive quarters showing an economic slowdown=a recession) The Obamanites aren't the first administration to makes erroneous statements.

MOSUL, Iraq -- Expecting headaches and maybe worse from unruly factions of Kurds and Saddam Hussein loyalists, American soldiers began a campaign yesterday to stabilize and administer this northern Iraq city.

Instead, they were met with flowers and friendly greetings.

No one can be sure it will last, but for now a task force of troops from the 101st Airborne and 4th Infantry divisions plans to impose order swiftly in Iraq's third-largest city.

Read more: Northern Iraq: Flowers, smiles greet U.S. troops - seattlepi.com
 
Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%.

Read more: Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME


How would that rate with the Bushies claim that Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers? Or how about a sitting president saying "the economy is strong" after one quarter of showing to be slowing down and in the middle of a second consecutive quarter that was showing the economy was slowing down? (Two consecutive quarters showing an economic slowdown=a recession) The Obamanites aren't the first administration to makes erroneous statements.

MOSUL, Iraq -- Expecting headaches and maybe worse from unruly factions of Kurds and Saddam Hussein loyalists, American soldiers began a campaign yesterday to stabilize and administer this northern Iraq city.

Instead, they were met with flowers and friendly greetings.

No one can be sure it will last, but for now a task force of troops from the 101st Airborne and 4th Infantry divisions plans to impose order swiftly in Iraq's third-largest city.

Read more: Northern Iraq: Flowers, smiles greet U.S. troops - seattlepi.com

Thank you for that.

Liberals need to form their own country
 
How would that rate with the Bushies claim that Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers? Or how about a sitting president saying "the economy is strong" after one quarter of showing to be slowing down and in the middle of a second consecutive quarter that was showing the economy was slowing down? (Two consecutive quarters showing an economic slowdown=a recession) The Obamanites aren't the first administration to makes erroneous statements.

MOSUL, Iraq -- Expecting headaches and maybe worse from unruly factions of Kurds and Saddam Hussein loyalists, American soldiers began a campaign yesterday to stabilize and administer this northern Iraq city.

Instead, they were met with flowers and friendly greetings.

No one can be sure it will last, but for now a task force of troops from the 101st Airborne and 4th Infantry divisions plans to impose order swiftly in Iraq's third-largest city.

Read more: Northern Iraq: Flowers, smiles greet U.S. troops - seattlepi.com

Thank you for that.

Liberals need to form their own country

They did...in 1776.
 
and remember back in 2008 when Obama would ask his crowds of 5000 gay kool-aid drinkers "Do You Wanna Go Back To The Days Of Bush?",,,,,,plain and simple? WHO DOESN'T ????
 
Can you prove him wrong?

Can you show that letting GM and Chrysler go under would have made America a better place?

Can you show that without the 300 billion in tax cuts and the 450 billion in spending in the stimulus that overall, America would be in better shape right now?

Why did GWB let Enron go under?
Lehman?
why was the UAW so special
Because they're a Democrat special interest group, and must be given huge wodges of taxpayer money.
 
How would that rate with the Bushies claim that Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers? Or how about a sitting president saying "the economy is strong" after one quarter of showing to be slowing down and in the middle of a second consecutive quarter that was showing the economy was slowing down? (Two consecutive quarters showing an economic slowdown=a recession) The Obamanites aren't the first administration to makes erroneous statements.

MOSUL, Iraq -- Expecting headaches and maybe worse from unruly factions of Kurds and Saddam Hussein loyalists, American soldiers began a campaign yesterday to stabilize and administer this northern Iraq city.

Instead, they were met with flowers and friendly greetings.

No one can be sure it will last, but for now a task force of troops from the 101st Airborne and 4th Infantry divisions plans to impose order swiftly in Iraq's third-largest city.

Read more: Northern Iraq: Flowers, smiles greet U.S. troops - seattlepi.com

Thank you for that.

Liberals need to form their own country
They'd fuck that one up, too.
 
what it boils down to is that Obama has no explanation for the 9.1% rate! Ohio is still stagnant! No plan to reduce the price of gas back to a fair $2.00 - $2.50 a gallon. Ever since O'Hiltler took office we have been GOING BACKWARDS! Oh by the way,,Obama never mentioned to the small crowd in Toledo that the interest on the debt is 3 Billion a day of which our kids are paying and will pay for.

Let's see, on one side of a righty's mouth they claim the government doesn't create jobs (when some asks what the GOP House has done to create jobs) and then the other side of a righty's mouth slams Obama because of the crappy job environment.
Well boys and girls,,,what is it?

The fact of the matter is that Corporate America is sitting on trillions of dollars of capital and has enjoyed record profits. BUT they aren't investing in America, the are investing in their foreign operations that are paying their employees Third World wages.
Now some of you and even Corporate America have said the reason that Corporate America isn't investing in America is because of the uncertainty of the economy or blame Obama for his policies. The economy is uncertain because no one is hiring! The economy is slowing down because the consumer class has no to little expendable income because of flat wages or no jobs. And who's not hiring the US worker and who controls their wages?
Corporate America's excuse may be they want lower taxes. The US has one of the highest tax rates on businesses in the world BUT after all the loopholes the US gives businesses, their tax rate is one of the lowest in the developed world. And that's evident to the fact that most US corporations don't pay any taxes!

Now back to the question, who exactly create jobs? Government or businesses?

Business creates jobs and it is Governments responsibility to create a favorable tax and regulatory climate to encourage that end.

Corporate America is not the cause.

According to the 1997 report of the U.S. Census Bureau, the nation’s 17 million small, non-farm businesses constituted 99.7 per cent of all employers, employed 52 percent of private workforce and accounted for 51 percent of the nation’s sales. Small business-dominated industries provided 11.1 million new jobs between 1994 and 1998, virtually all of the new jobs created during that time period. Small businesses are most likely to generate jobs for young workers, older workers and women, provide 67 percent of first jobs and produce 55 percent of innovations.

"Business creates jobs and it is Governments responsibility to create a favorable tax and regulatory climate to encourage that end".

Well,,,,"The Government Accountability Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005.

More than half of foreign companies and about 42 percent of U.S. companies paid no U.S. income taxes for two or more years in that period, the report said
."
Study says most corporations pay no U.S. income taxes | Reuters

And:

"U.S. corporations pay a smaller percentage of their profits in taxes than do corporations based in other developed nations. Corporate leaders and anti-tax politicians often point to the top statutory corporate tax rate in the U.S. — 35 percent — which is higher than that of most other countries. But because there are so many deductions, credits and other special breaks in our corporate income tax, the effective tax rate for U.S. corporations is actually relatively low.

In 2007, a report from the Bush Treasury found that "the United States takes a below-average share of corporate income in taxes." The report found that, over the 2000-2005 period, U.S. corporations paid 13.4 percent of their profits in corporate income taxes, while the corporations of the other countries in the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) paid 16.1 percent of their profits in corporate income taxes."

http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2011/01/revenue-positive_reform_of_the_corporate_income_tax.php

So, have the corporations pay no taxes?

Also, exactly what regulations would you like to see eliminated? Now I know that's a broad question, but a simplified answer would do.
Finally, I never said corporate America is the cause, but they are certainly not helping now are they?
 
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If I hear one more "Obama-Faggot" say,,,,well, when Obama took office in 2009,we were losing over 700,000 jobs a month" (as an excuse for this weeks bad news),,,Im gonna "pretend to shoot my television" (hey,,didn't elvis do that on occasion?)
 
Can you prove him wrong?

Can you show that letting GM and Chrysler go under would have made America a better place?

Can you show that without the 300 billion in tax cuts and the 450 billion in spending in the stimulus that overall, America would be in better shape right now?

Why did GWB let Enron go under?
Lehman?
why was the UAW so special
Because they're a Democrat special interest group, and must be given huge wodges of taxpayer money.

Well let's see,,,maybe "W" let Enron go under because they committed FRAUD! How quickly people forget stuff like that.
And Lehman Brothers North American operations was purchased by Barclay's the day after Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy. So they didn't need any help from "W".
I hope this info helps answer your question.
 
Finally, I never said corporate America is the cause, but they are certainly not helping now are they?

It's not their job to help an environment that undermines their profitability. They necessarily follow the money. That's the reality of free-market forces. You want a different reality. Well, your reality can only be realized by coercion and the lose of profitability.

It's that simple.
 

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